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    I was in NY last week, and lost my BlackBerry Curve (best I could tell it fell out of its holster while riding the Cyclone at Coney Island). I'd been planning to hold out until October to jump from AT&T to Verizon and get one of those new Motorola Sholes Android phones, but this forced my hand, and I had to shop fast. Needed a new phone in a day. My requirements were WiFi, 3g, a good dev community, and a clicky hardware keyboard. I tend to type long emails on my phone and I simply refuse to do it on a sheet of glass. That ruled out iPhone, but left me with Android, Palm and RIM.

    The 3g/wifi requirements meant Bold was my only option on BlackBerry though, and not only is it a very bulky device, but it's also very expensive, and for it's price, doesn't even have a touch-screen. I guess the size makes it nicer to type on, but the trackball interface leaves a bit to be desired, especially for browsing.

    The only Android slider available is still the G1, which is getting a bit long in the tooth, lacks a headphone jack, and I just wasn't sure about being on T-mo for 3g.

    I'd heard horror stories about Sprint's customer service, but pretty good things about their network, and one of my clients, who is a very demanding guy to do business with uses them for all of his employees mobile phones/aircards. I'd also been looking with covetous eyes at the Pre earlier this year, and I loved the hell out of my Tungsten T2 several years ago before I got in to my Curve (which I also quite enjoyed for what it was), so why not. I decided to become a Palm owner again. I stopped by a Radio Shack in Brooklyn the next morning, signed the contract and ported my number. They said it would take 24 to 48 hours for my number to actually start ringing on the phone. Something like 24 to 48 minutes later, the phone rang. It was my mother. Go figure.

    I got the phone with about 50% charge on the battery. Needless to say it was completely dead within about 2-3 hours and I was walking around town the rest of the day with a brick in my pocket. I figured it probably just drained the bottom half quickly or I read the meter wrong, and a full charge would help, so I charged it completely overnight that evening, and the next morning, I left my buddy's apartment about 11am with a completely full charge. I barely talked on the phone at all that day, but used gmaps a bit to get around town, wrote a few texts, answered some emails, checked my facebook, etc, and by the time I got to the Yankee stadium at quarter to 6, it shut down for lack of power. I used to be able to let my Curve go without charging for 2 days before it ran out of juice. I was fuming.

    Also had my first experiences with the Pre camera. Love the picture quality in general, don't love the interface. No options for changing white balance based on light conditions (even the crappy blackberry camera had that), and the facebook upload interface is crap. It just dumps pictures into the mobile upload gallery with no captions or tags. With the blackberry facebook app, you get an upload confirmation screen that lets you caption pics, add tags to them, and choose what gallery to put them in. This screen is accessible from within the facebook app, or as a menu item from within the blackberry photo browser, or from the camera itself, immediately after you snap a picture. It's extremely convenient. Palm really should implement something this simple in a future WebOS update.

    Checked the internet that night (here in fact), turned off GPS, set screen brightness all the way down, tuned down my email timers, set my roaming on, and the next day I went in to airplane mode every time I went underground, and made it a whole day of touring the city, and got home just as I was losing power. Also noticed in my surfing the night before about Pre price change, stopped by Radio Shack and got $50 refund, as I had bought it the day before that went live. Starting to really like the basic interface and apps, wishing I wasn't so busy vacationing that I could spend some time surfing the official and homebrew app catalogs for some cool stuff to install, but come on, I'm in NY, who's got the time? (which is ironic because what I really needed was AccuWeather, Where, and the MTA Map apps).

    Managed to find time to get a few official apps installed while in NY, I think weather, Pandora, Tweed and some games, but decided not to bother with the homebrew scene until I got home and could really play with it. Got a bit of reading done on the subject and was starting to get excited though. Great scene, and looking good. Seems I got this phone at exactly the right time. Things just heating up and getting good.

    Got back to FL and got WebOSInstall running, installed FileCoaster, AHS (which wasn't quite as awesome as I was hoping, but I've got good future expectations for...seems to be going in the right direction, because the basic home screen is way too empty), some games (Reversi, which is great but too easy, PreJeweled, Zork), FriendsFlow, MyQ, drPodder...All looking good. Battery is still an issue, and I have to make sure I plug in somewhere once a day. Not going underground on trains helps, but I still do a lot of driving, so I ordered a car charger, and I'll be hooking that up whenever I'm in the car. I never ever had to worry about charge on my Curve, and I could be flagrant about app use, running Pandora like a fiend, or whatever, but on the Pre I find I'm not as eager to stream media because I'm guarding my precious amperage. Seriously considering the Amzer 2800mAh battery/cover so I can have some useful lifetime between plugins. Going a full workday would be dreamy.

    Went to a concert the other night and noticed for the first time that the keyboard keys weren't backlit. Made it very difficult to twitter or use the phone in the dark. This was kind of annoying and something I never really thought about on my Curve. standing right next to me on my left, some guy was punching up facebook on his G1, typing away on a fully-lit keyboard. Directly to my right, a dude with a Berry was texting a friend with his backlit keys. I had a twinge of jealousy (and I'll admit a bit of nostalgic remorse). Palm should really get an LED behind those buttons, because seriously. What phone doesn't have lit keys these days?

    It's 9 days as a Pre owner now, and on the whole, other than a few minor complaints I've listed above, and the major beef with power, which I feel I can likely address with a 3p battery, I must say I am really loving this phone. Palm has done almost everything right. Most of the things they have done wrong, they can fix. Granted, nothing short of a manufacturing revision and a new model will correct the keyboard lighting problem, but the photo uploading can be tweaked, and the rest of the interface is fantastic. The app catalog is coming along beautifully for such a young platform.

    I'm looking forward to trying new apps as they come out, and while I'm terrible at app development and coding, I'm really good at app testing and offering critique and feature ideas, as well as writing and documenting, so I may get involved with some projects at that level in the near future.

    Also, really enjoying the Podcast here. Wish I could listen and participate live, but Wednesdays is generally my Game Night, so I'm usually out busy. Have to get the recorded version and enjoy it on my Thursday commute. Almost as good.

    Edit: Posting here is a good idea. I've learned all about how wrong I was about the key backlighting. Thanks for all the replies, I've fixed my issue by adjusting the brightness up a notch. Don't know if this is WebOS 1.1 or my Pre, or a new batch of hardware or what, but going all the way down on mine results in no kb light at all, even at full charge, YMMV. Bringing brightness up even a tad turns the LEDs on enough for my eyes to make them out, again YMMV. I was blessed with very sharp vision
    Last edited by StormD; 09/19/2009 at 02:28 PM.
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    first of all before i read the rest of your post lol its way too long but i will finish it ha ha, do not drain your battery all the way down it kills it dead ruins it bricks it how ever you want to say it. you could probably take it back and exchange it if you want. anyways for one to two weeks keep it charged up as full as possible at all times after this the battery kinds of sets itself . this battery is nothing like the batteries of old days . very different .ok!
    ĦṔ-Ḷṫ-Ŧḯη
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    camra will be fixed soon by palm or dev.will make an app im sure. if you dont mind the weather channel it works quite well on the pre fits screen and has live radar. when you pull up the screen single or double tap the screen and then you can single or double tap again for better view . its really not bad at all.
    this phone does have back lit keys too lol but they r tied in with the screen briteness download briteness unlinked or whatever from homebrew and it separates them and you can make one or the other briter or not lol. hope this helps you out somewhat !!!!
    ĦṔ-Ḷṫ-Ŧḯη
    Here is a direct link to webOS Doc for all carriers
    http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/...octor_Versions
    P.S. if i have helped you and you are thankful please hit the thanks button to the right---->
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    let me kow if you need any help too . ttyl
    ĦṔ-Ḷṫ-Ŧḯη
    Here is a direct link to webOS Doc for all carriers
    http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/...octor_Versions
    P.S. if i have helped you and you are thankful please hit the thanks button to the right---->
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    My keyboard keys are backlit on my Pre.
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    dude ha ha ha what is that in your profile pic lol!!!!!! @vandoc
    ĦṔ-Ḷṫ-Ŧḯη
    Here is a direct link to webOS Doc for all carriers
    http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/...octor_Versions
    P.S. if i have helped you and you are thankful please hit the thanks button to the right---->
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    my keys are always lit. I did the dimming screen hack and that is the only way to completely turn off the keyboard. The only other time this might happen is when you are at 10% or less battery.
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    Keys should be lit. They may be pretty dim if you have the screen brightness cranked down (like I do), but even then you should be able to see them in the dark. There's a Brightness Unlinked app which lets you control them separately.
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    Adjust the screen brightness in the settings to make your keyboard baclight brighter.
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    when you get to about 20% battery the pres keyboard lights turn off to help save battery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadavis08 View Post
    this phone does have back lit keys too lol but they r tied in with the screen briteness download briteness unlinked or whatever from homebrew and it separates them and you can make one or the other briter or not lol. hope this helps you out somewhat !!!!
    I had my screen brightness all the way down, which apparently turns the key backlight OFF (possibly not the brightest choice - ha!). I popped it up a hair from the bottom and and the backlight came on just bright enough to see the keys even in total darkness. Thanks for this tip!
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    If the battery gets to low, the backlight on the keyboard will not come on. It's annoying, but helps you get a little bit more life out of the phone itself when you can't charge it.
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    hey would you mind hitting the thanks button for me please , it would be generous of you !!!
    ĦṔ-Ḷṫ-Ŧḯη
    Here is a direct link to webOS Doc for all carriers
    http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/...octor_Versions
    P.S. if i have helped you and you are thankful please hit the thanks button to the right---->
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    Okay battery issues, the extended battery is an awesome choice, with regular use keeping 4-6 cards open all day and streaming media it will last almost 2 days. The keyboard is backlit just the option to control it is in a weird spot. The acreen brightness also controls the keyboard. So if your brightness is down it will get darker. Also like previous poster said when ur low bat it turns off. The extended battery will solve many of your problems. Homebrew is awesome but if you want a lot more customizatipn you should check out webosinternals to do much more tweaking!. Anyway a new update is coming next thursday and will add a ton of improvements and a lot more new apps.
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    hmm...editing my post took it offline...I guess the mods need to re-approve it or something...
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    Quote Originally Posted by StormD View Post
    I was in NY last week, and lost my BlackBerry Curve (best I could tell it fell out of its holster while riding the Cyclone at Coney Island). ...
    I still have to read the rest of your post, but I can't think of a better way to loose a phone. You seem to have changed this sad occurrence into an art!

    I have yet to ride the cyclone in my (somewhat normal) life. I tried to do it during a trip once, but we ran into traffic and the car began to overheat (which meant we needed to turn around and get back to highway driving). It's still one of the things I want to do sometime in my life. Welcome to the Pre (and to PreCentral.net)!

    EDIT: I finished reading your post (and your edit). Your post is probably the best second post in (visor|treo|pre)central history. BTW: You might have also noticed that the battery gets a little better after a few days of conditioning. You're probably right that you'll need a bigger battery for your use. Also when you are home or at work, the Pre usually uses less juice on wifi than on a bad CDMA signal.
    Last edited by sudoer; 09/19/2009 at 02:58 PM.
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    Hopefully this repost of StormD's original message will work:

    Quote Originally Posted by StormD View Post
    I was in NY last week, and lost my BlackBerry Curve (best I could tell it fell out of its holster while riding the Cyclone at Coney Island). I'd been planning to hold out until October to jump from AT&T to Verizon and get one of those new Motorola Sholes Android phones, but this forced my hand, and I had to shop fast. Needed a new phone in a day. My requirements were WiFi, 3g, a good dev community, and a clicky hardware keyboard. I tend to type long emails on my phone and I simply refuse to do it on a sheet of glass. That ruled out iPhone, but left me with Android, Palm and RIM.

    The 3g/wifi requirements meant Bold was my only option on BlackBerry though, and not only is it a very bulky device, but it's also very expensive, and for it's price, doesn't even have a touch-screen. I guess the size makes it nicer to type on, but the trackball interface leaves a bit to be desired, especially for browsing.

    The only Android slider available is still the G1, which is getting a bit long in the tooth, lacks a headphone jack, and I just wasn't sure about being on T-mo for 3g.

    I'd heard horror stories about Sprint's customer service, but pretty good things about their network, and one of my clients, who is a very demanding guy to do business with uses them for all of his employees mobile phones/aircards. I'd also been looking with covetous eyes at the Pre earlier this year, and I loved the hell out of my Tungsten T2 several years ago before I got in to my Curve (which I also quite enjoyed for what it was), so why not. I decided to become a Palm owner again. I stopped by a Radio Shack in Brooklyn the next morning, signed the contract and ported my number. They said it would take 24 to 48 hours for my number to actually start ringing on the phone. Something like 24 to 48 minutes later, the phone rang. It was my mother. Go figure.

    I got the phone with about 50% charge on the battery. Needless to say it was completely dead within about 2-3 hours and I was walking around town the rest of the day with a brick in my pocket. I figured it probably just drained the bottom half quickly or I read the meter wrong, and a full charge would help, so I charged it completely overnight that evening, and the next morning, I left my buddy's apartment about 11am with a completely full charge. I barely talked on the phone at all that day, but used gmaps a bit to get around town, wrote a few texts, answered some emails, checked my facebook, etc, and by the time I got to the Yankee stadium at quarter to 6, it shut down for lack of power. I used to be able to let my Curve go without charging for 2 days before it ran out of juice. I was fuming.

    Also had my first experiences with the Pre camera. Love the picture quality in general, don't love the interface. No options for changing white balance based on light conditions (even the crappy blackberry camera had that), and the facebook upload interface is crap. It just dumps pictures into the mobile upload gallery with no captions or tags. With the blackberry facebook app, you get an upload confirmation screen that lets you caption pics, add tags to them, and choose what gallery to put them in. This screen is accessible from within the facebook app, or as a menu item from within the blackberry photo browser, or from the camera itself, immediately after you snap a picture. It's extremely convenient. Palm really should implement something this simple in a future WebOS update.

    Checked the internet that night (here in fact), turned off GPS, set screen brightness all the way down, tuned down my email timers, set my roaming on, and the next day I went in to airplane mode every time I went underground, and made it a whole day of touring the city, and got home just as I was losing power. Also noticed in my surfing the night before about Pre price change, stopped by Radio Shack and got $50 refund, as I had bought it the day before that went live. Starting to really like the basic interface and apps, wishing I wasn't so busy vacationing that I could spend some time surfing the official and homebrew app catalogs for some cool stuff to install, but come on, I'm in NY, who's got the time? (which is ironic because what I really needed was AccuWeather, Where, and the MTA Map apps).

    Managed to find time to get a few official apps installed while in NY, I think weather, Pandora, Tweed and some games, but decided not to bother with the homebrew scene until I got home and could really play with it. Got a bit of reading done on the subject and was starting to get excited though. Great scene, and looking good. Seems I got this phone at exactly the right time. Things just heating up and getting good.

    Got back to FL and got WebOSInstall running, installed FileCoaster, AHS (which wasn't quite as awesome as I was hoping, but I've got good future expectations for...seems to be going in the right direction, because the basic home screen is way too empty), some games (Reversi, which is great but too easy, PreJeweled, Zork), FriendsFlow, MyQ, drPodder...All looking good. Battery is still an issue, and I have to make sure I plug in somewhere once a day. Not going underground on trains helps, but I still do a lot of driving, so I ordered a car charger, and I'll be hooking that up whenever I'm in the car. I never ever had to worry about charge on my Curve, and I could be flagrant about app use, running Pandora like a fiend, or whatever, but on the Pre I find I'm not as eager to stream media because I'm guarding my precious amperage. Seriously considering the Amzer 2800mAh battery/cover so I can have some useful lifetime between plugins. Going a full workday would be dreamy.

    Went to a concert the other night and noticed for the first time that the keyboard keys weren't backlit. Made it very difficult to twitter or use the phone in the dark. This was kind of annoying and something I never really thought about on my Curve. standing right next to me on my left, some guy was punching up facebook on his G1, typing away on a fully-lit keyboard. Directly to my right, a dude with a Berry was texting a friend with his backlit keys. I had a twinge of jealousy (and I'll admit a bit of nostalgic remorse). Palm should really get an LED behind those buttons, because seriously. What phone doesn't have lit keys these days?

    It's 9 days as a Pre owner now, and on the whole, other than a few minor complaints I've listed above, and the major beef with power, which I feel I can likely address with a 3p battery, I must say I am really loving this phone. Palm has done almost everything right. Most of the things they have done wrong, they can fix. Granted, nothing short of a manufacturing revision and a new model will correct the keyboard lighting problem, but the photo uploading can be tweaked, and the rest of the interface is fantastic. The app catalog is coming along beautifully for such a young platform.

    I'm looking forward to trying new apps as they come out, and while I'm terrible at app development and coding, I'm really good at app testing and offering critique and feature ideas, as well as writing and documenting, so I may get involved with some projects at that level in the near future.

    Also, really enjoying the Podcast here. Wish I could listen and participate live, but Wednesdays is generally my Game Night, so I'm usually out busy. Have to get the recorded version and enjoy it on my Thursday commute. Almost as good.
    I'm both super! ... and a doer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bclancy View Post
    I still have to read the rest of your post, but I can't think of a better way to loose a phone. You seem to have changed this sad occurrence into an art!

    I have yet to ride the cyclone in my (somewhat normal) life. I tried to do it during a trip once, but we ran into traffic and the car began to overheat (which meant we needed to turn around and get back to highway driving). It's still one of the things I want to do sometime in my life. Welcome to the Pre (and to PreCentral.net)!
    It's not for the faint of heart. By far, it's the scariest roller coaster I've ever ridden (and I love me some coasters). Halfway through I started to worry that I might get seriously injured.
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    leave the pre ,dont take it on the coaster,its scared of heights !!!!!
    ĦṔ-Ḷṫ-Ŧḯη
    Here is a direct link to webOS Doc for all carriers
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    P.S. if i have helped you and you are thankful please hit the thanks button to the right---->
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    Quote Originally Posted by StormD View Post
    It's not for the faint of heart. By far, it's the scariest roller coaster I've ever ridden (and I love me some coasters). Halfway through I started to worry that I might get seriously injured.
    Maybe when they get video on the Pre, I might need to celebrate the occasion with a trip to NYC in order to record my first ride!
    I'm both super! ... and a doer!
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