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  1. #21  
    ^finally someone with mutual sentiments. Only to add that I am sick of the other phone user telling me to upgrade! Well I did, just not to theirs.
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    #22  
    I just don't use GPS, on the Pre or anything else. Never saw the need. Just call me Meriwether Lewis.
  3. #23  
    Quote Originally Posted by darrinaltman View Post
    I started while driving so I guess I should test and see if I start it while parked and wait for lock first and see if that helps. Thnx for tip.
    I was sitting here reading these and thought "I wonder if they're trying to get it started while moving." I think you just hit your problem.

    FWIW, I always set mine up when I'm stopped, and have not had any problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by treobk214 View Post
    Looks like its time to go back to the iphone. Im not budging from my 755 until I see better hardware and more reliable PIM with solid gps on the Pre 2....

    The pre is WAY too beta for someone who needs instant functionality and reliable cell signals.
    And we all so enjoy your regular updates as to unhappy you are with the new device, and thrilled you are with the old. It's just that ... well... you're posting them on the wrong forum!
  5. #25  
    Yeah, just when I need it the most the Sprint Nav fails me. Happened again today. Google maps worked, sort of...it lagged in the lock and tracking but at least it was accurate every 30s or so...Sprint Nav was hopeless. It's a shame...it works beautifully when it works.
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    #27  
    i know this seems like an annoying option, but I was having all sorts of GPS issues (along with a few weird issues)

    I did a partial erase, (meaning i had to back up from the palm profile) and it seems to have cleared up my GPS issues. maybe it's a placebo effect, but, it's worth a shot. it's not that hard to put the phone back the way it was.
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    #28  
    i had the instinc and the gps was crap sofar the pre is ok
  8. #29  
    the gps in my pre only works in cities I know my way around. It can never find a signal in between cities and places I have no idea where im at.
  9. #30  
    love my gps, other than it draining my battery super fast
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    Quote Originally Posted by hparsons View Post
    I was sitting here reading these and thought "I wonder if they're trying to get it started while moving." I think you just hit your problem.

    FWIW, I always set mine up when I'm stopped, and have not had any problems.
    I've done mine both ways, moving and stopped, without any issues any time. I use my GPS probably 3-4 days a week.
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    I have had the Pre's GPS be a little flaky on me in the past,
    but generally Sprint Nav has worked any time I've needed it.
    I decided to settle the question of whether Sprint Nav will initialize
    on the roll so I just went and put 60 miles on the car and did the
    following tests.
    1. Rolling 65mph, GPS off (had been off for several miles),
    Sprint Nav off. Turn GPS on, turn Sprint Nav on, go to most recent
    destination. GPS initialized within a few seconds, and it began routing.

    2. Rolling 65mph, GPS off, Sprint Nav off. Turn Sprint Nav on,
    it asks if I want to turn GPS on. I do, it does, go to recent destination
    it begins routing within seconds.

    3. Power cycle phone, repeat tests 1 and 2 successfully
    4. Go to airplane mode for a while (while rolling to put distance
    between cell towers), then back to normal, repeat test 2, successfully.
    5. Go to airplane mode. Drive into a narrow twisty canyon with limited
    but available cellular coverage and narrower view of the sky. Out
    of airplane mode, repeat test 2 successfully.

    I couldn't get GPS and Sprint Nav to ever not initialize within about 5 seconds.

    That said, having used conventional GPS receivers for years, I know
    that the longer you have a GPS receiver off, or the greater
    the distance between the point you last used it and your
    present location, the longer it'll take to initialize GPS as it takes
    a while to figure out which satellites are above the horizon and so forth.
    And yes, it usually takes longer while rolling in this situation because
    satellites are appearing and disappearing as you turn.

    My guess is that those having the most problems are just hitting all
    the normal GPS slow start issues. Rolling, some time since last
    init, and possible limited or rapidly changing view of the sky.
    For those planning to do Nav, I suggest simply turning GPS on
    while you're stationary, or walking to your car, fire up Google Maps
    and make sure the location dot switches to a small dot and doesn't
    have the big circle around it, and then fire up Nav and go. Once it's
    initialized once, it should do ok pretty much anywhere you go.

    BTW, I did run into a couple weird quirks on my drive.
    I live near a four lane interstate with two names. Sprint Nav
    kept telling me to merge onto the other name, every 0.3 to 0.5 miles for
    mile after mile. "Merge onto C470 in .4 miles. Merge onto Co C470.
    Merge onto C470 in .5 miles... " and on and on and on and on..
    Another quirk is this. There's a new interchange off that highway
    built about 9 months ago. Sprint Nav doesn't know about it.
    I got off the highway onto the offramp, it continued to show me
    speeding along the highway at 70mph, I turned on the side street, it
    continued to show me speeding along the highway. I was 1/8th of a mile
    off the highway going perpendicular to it, before it finally realized
    and moved my location and rerouted.

    ian
  12. #33  
    I very rarely have problems with my Nav. It's only locked up on me once or twice in the past three months where a simple reset corrected it.

    I have to say that this Nav is absolutely awesome. If anyone has continual problems, they should definitely diagnose the problem thoroughly.

    You should be able to rely on Sprint Navigation with confidence to get you to where you want to go all of the time.
    I am equivalent to a man dammit.
  13. #34  
    My biggest problem with Sprint NAV is that you can not be on the phone while using it ...I was on my way to a clients house when Sprint called and told me that there was a problem with my plan (thats going to be a whole new thread)...Well they were threatening to change my wifes plan automatically. I spent almost an hour on the phone with them the whole time in a parkinglot because the navigator wasn't working....
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    Quote Originally Posted by evilhomer View Post
    My biggest problem with Sprint NAV is that you can not be on the phone while using it ...I was on my way to a clients house when Sprint called and told me that there was a problem with my plan (thats going to be a whole new thread)...Well they were threatening to change my wifes plan automatically. I spent almost an hour on the phone with them the whole time in a parkinglot because the navigator wasn't working....
    If navigation has already started and then you get a call, it keeps going no problem. It can handle temporary data outages. But it won't be able to start without data access, which you don't have while on the phone without wifi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    BTW, I did run into a couple weird quirks on my drive.
    I live near a four lane interstate with two names. Sprint Nav
    kept telling me to merge onto the other name, every 0.3 to 0.5 miles for
    mile after mile. "Merge onto C470 in .4 miles. Merge onto Co C470.
    Merge onto C470 in .5 miles... " and on and on and on and on..
    Another quirk is this. There's a new interchange off that highway
    built about 9 months ago. Sprint Nav doesn't know about it.
    I got off the highway onto the offramp, it continued to show me
    speeding along the highway at 70mph, I turned on the side street, it
    continued to show me speeding along the highway. I was 1/8th of a mile
    off the highway going perpendicular to it, before it finally realized
    and moved my location and rerouted.

    ian
    The database is driven by Telenav, I think, so the various road names is a Telenav issue rather than Sprint nav. Also, regarding the off ramp, I've noticed that navigation sticks to the roads pretty tightly. So even if you are off the road a little, it will still mark you as on the road. It also doesn't sense what direction you're traveling except by position information, as there's no compass. So it's not suprising that you had to drive a little ways in a cross direction to get it to realize what was happening. I think we actually want it this way more often than not--it would really annoy you if you had a particularly noisy GPS measurment that showed you off the road by 10m and nav said, "You are now off track."
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    #37  
    I've used my Pre and Sprint Nav for two trips - one short trip to the beach, one driving from Nashville to Chattanooga and back, and have never had any problems. Also use the GPS extensively for Geocaching using the fantastic GoTo homebrew app, and it works like a champ!
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    #38  
    I've had issues with the GPS and sprint nav. I was driving around Philly for the first time trying to find a restaurant, and it basically took me on a 45-minute downtown tour when it should have been a 10-minute drive. I sighed, and turned to my girlfriend who has an Iphone and asked her to map it and of course it worked, and we found the place. I noticed that resetting the phone fixed some of the quirky GPS issues with google maps, but sprint nav is a WHOLE other story.

    I used to live in Arizona and California, and the GPS and signals worked GREAT there. I've recently started school in NYC and I barely get reliable signals here. I am always roaming and in 1X. I hate the iphone so much, but my girlfriend always wins the battle because her iphone is working when my PRE is out.... sucks.
  18. #39  
    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    BTW, I did run into a couple weird quirks on my drive.
    I live near a four lane interstate with two names. Sprint Nav
    kept telling me to merge onto the other name, every 0.3 to 0.5 miles for
    mile after mile. "Merge onto C470 in .4 miles. Merge onto Co C470.
    Merge onto C470 in .5 miles... " and on and on and on and on..
    Another quirk is this. There's a new interchange off that highway
    built about 9 months ago. Sprint Nav doesn't know about it.
    I got off the highway onto the offramp, it continued to show me
    speeding along the highway at 70mph, I turned on the side street, it
    continued to show me speeding along the highway. I was 1/8th of a mile
    off the highway going perpendicular to it, before it finally realized
    and moved my location and rerouted.

    ian
    I ran into this issue a bit while I was in Connecticut. One of the major routes had its own local name in every other city, it seems, so the directions were always "continue to" every couple of miles.
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    Whoa! just tried GPS and it is excellent! very precise! I'm impressed. Got a lock straight away.
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