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    Check out this link.. The pixi is packing some serious power! Does this mean its faster then the pre?

    Palm Pixi processor, chipset specs get detailed at last
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    curious as to how that compares to the Pre... I never heard the break-down on the Pre's internals.
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    Well most of those that have used it said it ran slower and couldn't have as many apps open. It is a different processor than the Pre's, but hard to say which is better.
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    Does the Pre have as many separate cores/etc? The Pixi might have been slower if the OS had not been tweaked for it's newer design... offloading tasks onto specific chips makes a LOT of sense---but the Pre might already do that... curious... hrm
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScrapMaker View Post
    curious as to how that compares to the Pre... I never heard the break-down on the Pre's internals.
    Palm Pre:
    • ARM Cortex A8-based microprocessors
    • PowerVR SGX 530 graphics


    Here's a full writeup on the Palm Processor
    OMAP3430 Processor
    The first device in TI’s OMAP™ 3 architecture, the OMAP3430 multimedia applications processor delivers up to 3x gain in performance over ARM11-based processors, enabling laptop-like productivity and advanced entertainment in 3G handsets. The industry’s first application processor to be designed in a 65-nanometer (nm) CMOS process, the OMAP3430 operates at a higher frequency than previous generation OMAP processors while lowering the core voltage and adding power reduction features.

    Productivity. The OMAP3430 is the first applications processor in the industry to integrate the ARM® Cortex™-A8 superscalar microprocessor core. Combined with TI’s technology in the OMAP3430, the ARM Cortex-A8 enables faster user interfaces, faster data access and boosts productivity and entertainment applications on the mobile phone, while maintaining power efficiencies expected in a handset.

    Multimedia / Gaming. IVA 2+ a second-generation, power-optimized version of TI’s imaging, video and audio accelerator used in TI’s DaVinci™ technology provides up to 4x performance improvement in multi-media processing versus previous OMAP processors. The increased capabilities of the IVA2+ enables multi-standard (MPEG4, H264, Windows Media Video, RealVideo etc.) encode and decode at DVD resolutions. With the advanced multimedia capabilities of the OMAP3430 a multi-standard DVD-quality camcorder can be added to a phone for the first time. In addition, the ARM’s vector floating-point acceleration, coupled with the OMAP3430’s dedicated 2D/3D graphics hardware accelerator, provides outstanding gaming capabilities.

    Graphics. The OMAP3430 processor embeds Imagination Technologies’ POWERVR SGX™ graphics core, and supports OpenGL ES® 2.0 and OpenVG™, providing superior graphics performance and advanced user interface capabilities. TI is enabling sophisticated and dynamic images with “smart pixel” technology offered via OpenGL ES 2.0. This unique technology allows each pixel in an image to be programmed individually, giving developers the power to create rich effects with cinematic realism. Users will now experience “life-like” facial features, advanced reflection effects and multi-textured backgrounds in the mobile environment.

    Imaging. An integrated image signal processor (ISP) allows for image quality enhancement while reducing external components, lowering system costs and lowering system power. The OMAP3430 can connect to images sensors up to 12 mega pixels in size with minimal shot-to-shot delay, enabling camera phones that are equivalent to or better than most digital still cameras on the market today. Additional features in the OMAP3430 like On-the-fly JPEG compression and connectivity support for both serial and parrallel cameras aid in throughput and storage as well as add design flexibility.

    Software and support. The OMAP3430 is designed to support all high-level operating system (HLOS) platforms, including the leading Linux®, Microsoft® Windows Mobile™, and Symbian™ OSes. The OMAP Developer Network provides an extensive range of programs and media components that manufacturers can use for differentiating and delivering products to market fast.

    Security. The built-in M-Shield™ security technology enables operators to add value-added services for content protection, transaction security and secure network access, plus terminal security functions such as secure flashing and booting, terminal identity protection and network lock protection. Enhanced with ARM TrustZone™ support, OMAP3430 security is based on open APIs and provides an environment for secure applications that deliver robust performance and interoperability.

    Power management. The OMAP3430 boast the most advanced and effective power management techniques in the market. The chip makes exhaustive use of TI’s SmartReflex technologies which include a broad range of intelligent and adaptive hardware and software techniques that dynamically control voltage, frequency and power based on device activity, modes of operation and temperature. Additionally the OMAP3430 is supported by the TWL4030 power management/audio codec companion device which is designed specifically to maximize battery life and boost system performance in mobile phones that leverage the OMAP3430 applications processor. The highly integrated TWL4030 combines SmartReflex-compliant voltage regulators and converters, a high-fidelity audio/voice codec, class-AB/D audio amplifiers, high-speed USB 2.0 OTG transceiver, battery charger circuitry and much more into a single chip, significantly reducing board space and system cost while managing power consumption efficiently.

    Key Features:
    New OMAP™ 3 architecture combines mobile entertainment with high performance productivity applications
    Industry’s first processor with advanced Superscalar ARM® Cortex™-A8 RISC core enabling 3x gain in performance
    Industry’s first processor designed in 65-nm CMOS process technology adds processing performance
    IVA™ 2+ (Image Video Audio) accelerator enables multi-standard (MPEG4, WMV9, RealVideo, H263, H264) encode/decode at D1 (720×480 pixels) 30 fps
    Integrated image signal processor (ISP) for faster, higher-quality image capture and lower system cost
    Flexible system support
    Composite and S-video TV output
    XGA (1024×768 pixels), 16M-color (24-bit definition) display support
    Flatlink™ 3G-compliant serial display and parallel display support
    High Speed USB2.0 On-The-Go support
    Seamless connectivity to Hard Disk Drive (HDD) devices for mass storage
    Leverages SmartReflex™ technologies for advanced power reduction
    M-shield™ mobile security enhanced with ARM TrustZone™ support
    Software-compatible with OMAP™ 2 processors
    HLOS support for customizable interface
    Support for OpenGL ES 1.1
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    I am pretty sure the Pre has two cores.
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    Well that's interesting to see all the stuff that Palm chose not to implement for the Pre...

    DVD-quality video recording? Man, that would be awesome.

    It seems that the Pre's chipset has a stronger main core, and only a secondary graphics core, while the Pixi has many cores, one for each task.
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    The Pre has:

    A 600 MHz ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX 530 GPU (SGX530/1 (14 MPolys/s) + 430MHz C64x+ DSP + ISP (Image Signal Processor) + Qualcomm MSM6801A baseband processor
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    The Pre does have two cores, the ARM Coretex A8 in the OMAP 3430 and an ARM11 in the Qualcomm MSM6801A radio chip.
    Whats unique to the Pixi is Qualcomm glued the two together into the same package. However, in the Pixi both cores are ARM11-derived, meaning the Pre will be able to blow the doors off the Pixi.
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    There is NO WAY that the pixi would have better specs than the pre if it's the baby version for beginner smartphone buyers...
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    I heard it's 1.2 times faster than the pre. It was on some Ethiopian blog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joshwithachance View Post
    There is NO WAY that the pixi would have better specs than the pre if it's the baby version for beginner smartphone buyers...
    Technology moves forward so what is considered a "power user" feature in 2009 will be "standard" in 2010.

    That said, I hope the missing features (lack of wifi, different chip and smaller screen) dont push developers away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gompers View Post
    I heard it's 1.2 times faster than the pre. It was on some Ethiopian blog.
    i heard the pixi is malaria resistant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pitasoup View Post
    i heard the pixi is malaria resistant.
    Really? I thought it killed kittens.... oh well, maybe I'll wait for the next Palm phone .
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    LMFAO i love the 2 posts above me >.<

    and @Urkel, i know technology moves fast but the pre JUST came out in june and the pixie will be out in november most likely, so not much time difference so i still feel the pre will be better than the pixi. if the pixi was going to pwn the pre they would advertise it as a pre successor...
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    Really, what's the point of the Pixi? The Pre is only $50 more and so much better in many ways. It's not even that big, so who cares if the Pixi is thinner?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tntsniper View Post
    Check out this link.. The pixi is packing some serious power! Does this mean its faster then the pre?
    Highly unlikely ... all reports are that it's slower and it's obviously being positioned as a "little cousin" (sister?) to the Pre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Grace View Post
    Really, what's the point of the Pixi? The Pre is only $50 more and so much better in many ways. It's not even that big, so who cares if the Pixi is thinner?
    There was once this phone, called the Centro, that sold millions because of it's form factor alone. That is why.
    Palm Vx -> Treo 600 -> Treo 700p -> Centro -> Pre (Launch Phone 06/06/09) -> AT&T Pre Plus with Sprint EVDO swap -> Samsung Epic 4G w/ Froyo
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    I think the Centro sold well because it actually worked well and was pocketable, unlike the Treo line. The size of the Pre is actually similar to that of the Centro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brain_ReCall View Post
    The Pre does have two cores, the ARM Coretex A8 in the OMAP 3430 and an ARM11 in the Qualcomm MSM6801A radio chip.
    Whats unique to the Pixi is Qualcomm glued the two together into the same package. However, in the Pixi both cores are ARM11-derived, meaning the Pre will be able to blow the doors off the Pixi.
    This is the big difference, ARM8 vs. ARM11.

    And yet the Pre is still very, very laggy at times -- what gives?
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