that's why you have to root and disable the update daemon. If you allow it to download the update, it will break, and you'll have to web doctor it again. That's why I suggest no one that cannot root the phone install this.

Well, he means when the screen isn't on -- say you get a text, missed call, or voicemail and you're not near your phone, or you just didn't hear the notification sound. You have no clue you've gotten anything until you activate the screen. He wants the ability to have the Pre alert you intermittently via a sound that you've gotten a new message. My mom's Eternity has this feature, and she loves it.

according to palminfocenter the new update also has the ability for Palm to remotely remove programs. (I can't post a link since I don't have enough posts) I wonder if they will start removing homebrew applications or just programs downloaded from the App Catalog.

According to them: In the file "usr\lib\luna\system\luna-systemui\app\controllers\apprevokedalert_scene.html", we can see this info-text: "Palm had to delete this application from the App Catalog and your device. If you paid for this app, your money will be refunded."

Since a picture is worth a thousand words... (Meant to do this sooner but got interrupted by a delivery that after at least two hours worth of putting together turned out to be broken. )

It's the sound from 1.1, might be cleaned up a bit, but I haven't noticed.

One little tiny thing I've noticed is that the little bar that tells you how much time is left in Word Ace is no longer there. I'm sure it's just tiny fixes that some apps need.

Something I realised is that it fixes Activation Problem with 1.1. If you aren't familiar with it, when activating on 1.1 the data connection takes 24 hours to connect.

EDIT:
Another thing is that they made the tap ripple animation slightly bigger.

that's one of the first things I checked. The var partition is still 32mb.

The id of all the homebrew apps you have installed are regularly sent back to Palm along with the rest of the debug information when you have a luna system crash. The id doesn't change, and Palm can access preware.org just like anyone else to find out what homebrew is available.

And their OTA update scripts can call "ipkg -o /var remove <package>" just like Preware does when it uninstalls a homebrew app.

-- Rod

Apart from mytether (which we all know specifically violates the Sprint Terms of Service for plans available for the Pre in the US), we are not aware of Palm or Sprint being against other homebrew in any way shape or form.

Palm contacted quite a few homebrew authors and personally invited them to submit their apps to the official app catalog. Chuq (Palm Developer Relations Manager) said in public at the San Diego PreDevCamp that Palm has no problem with homebrew that does not cross the line of violating Palm code copyright or carrier agreements.

Sprint has invited WebOS Internals developer Rick Boatright to give a presentation at the Sprint Developers Conference.

So let's not taint other homebrew with the same stigma that one single mytether app has because of it's particular functionality.

-- Rod

As soon as I saw that in the updated first post of this thread I went
"They did what??!!!" and had to start digging through the thread
to find this explanation. The first post should probably be updated
to reflect this clarification. Something like
"pinch/expand in the email header list has been removed"
Those that have used it, will know what it is. The rest won't care.

ian

Nope. Believe me, I've been digging for anything else new, as I'm sure others have as well. All the major changes have already been listed and all that could possibly left is under the hood stuff.

no to both

Did they fix the issue of .wav or .mp3, or .rm files not playing within an email attachement? My wife is constantly complaining about that our home voicemail's are emailed to our phones, but she cant play the .wav files even though the email has a play button.

On the email app, when composing an email, on the edit menu there are options for bold, italic, text color, and some more.. but they don't have gesture shortcuts.

It works now. I just emailed myself an MP3. I'll try a WAV just to be sure. I'm not sure how to save an attachment though... or if its even possible... WAV's work as well.

I've read through most of the thread and didn't see this but did they fix that issue where a page will load only a portion of the page and the rest is cut off? That happens to me all the time and is quite frustrating.

Whenever the official 1.2 is released, I plan on doing a webOSDoctor install to the official 1.2 myself. Honestly it seems like the same to me. You could use webOS Doctor to 1.1 now and then update to 1.1 using the updates app, or you could use 1.2 for now and then webOS Doctor to the official 1.2 when it's out. Either way I'd suggest resetting via webOS Doctor at some point, and I know I will be.

OK, I appreciate the feedback. I don't like not being able to get into the app store and check for updates on other apps. I will probably revert back to 1.1 and just keep it clean with no mods (or very few) until it gets officially released. It does however seem to be a lot more responsive to gestures and opening apps than 1.1. I hope to see more put into it than they have now, but if not, I will do it myself as I have been, with the help homebrew developers!

It shouldn't. Only patches and hacks you've used.

another change is that it doesn't autocapitalize the first letter when filling out forms on webpages. This was annoying when filling out usernames, having to always hit backspace to get it lowercase.