WebOS 1.2 already out? - Page 7

hoppy785 · 09/04/2009, 02:07 PM

don't get me wrong im very happy with this phone, but i dont get why they cant toss in stuff like add a launcher page or ability to text forward... just some of the more simple stuff that the people at webos internalz has already accomplished... i mean damn just ask permission to take their hacks if they dont have time to do it their selfs

sam1am · 09/04/2009, 02:07 PM

What I want:

1. Speed Improvements
2. I want my connection to stop randomly switching to 1x.

TCCCCnME · 09/04/2009, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beknatok

If you guys want to be safe, run the Palm emulator out of the SDK. Mine just finished downloading... will have initial feedback in a few minutes.

How would I run the webosdoctor.jar file with the emulator?

go4craig · 09/04/2009, 02:08 PM

So uh it downloaded 1.1 in the background and when I plugged my phone into charge I accidentally hit install now. Bricked the phone. Won't get past palm logo now. BE CAREFUL

OneDeep · 09/04/2009, 02:08 PM

Yall better hurry up and install before the admins delete the link..

sam1am · 09/04/2009, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoppy785

don't get me wrong im very happy with this phone, but i dont get why they cant toss in stuff like add a launcher page or ability to text forward... just some of the more simple stuff that the people at webos internalz has already accomplished... i mean damn just ask permission to take their hacks if they dont have time to do it their selfs

Adding a page to the launcher was functionality already built in by Palm. All the internalz guys did was uncomment a few lines in the code.

donatom3 · 09/04/2009, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by go4craig

So uh it downloaded 1.1 in the background and when I plugged my phone into charge I accidentally hit install now. Bricked the phone. Won't get past palm logo now. BE CAREFUL

Good to know.

Leathal · 09/04/2009, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneDeep

Yeah I don't get why it jumped from 1.1 to 1.2 with no major updates unless palm not done with it yet.

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't the final 1.2 version. Very little has been changed, at least from the enduser perspective. We'll find out more about any under-the-hood changes when someone runs a diff on the 1.2 files I posted vs 1.1.

As of right now I wouldn't recommend flashing it to an actual phone on the off chance this isn't 1.2 final. There's really no apparent benefit over 1.1 until the 1.2 App Catalog can actually connect to Palm's server. Unless the speed increase I'm seeing isn't just the placebo effect haha.

Edit:

Quote:

Originally Posted by go4craig

So uh it downloaded 1.1 in the background and when I plugged my phone into charge I accidentally hit install now. Bricked the phone. Won't get past palm logo now. BE CAREFUL

Hahaha this is EXACTLY how I found out I was running 1.2. "Hmm the 1.1 upgrade is only 1 meg now? Wasn't it 80 or so last time I did this? Oh well. *10 min later* Oh hey there never ending Palm logo."

hoppy785 · 09/04/2009, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sam1am

Adding a page to the launcher was functionality already built in by Palm. All the internalz guys did was uncomment a few lines in the code.

ok so even more simple... why not do it...

Elysian893 · 09/04/2009, 02:10 PM

I can verify one thing, I just compared the build date on the webOSdoctor I downloaded earlier from Palm, and it was 7/24/09. The one I downloaded from megaupload is 8/30/09.

onlinespending · 09/04/2009, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elysian893

My phone is only at 1.1 after the webdoctor.

that's because you didn't check the build number of webos doctor before updating. you didn't need to go through the pain of the update. it's in the build number and build date.

Dieter Bohn · 09/04/2009, 02:12 PM

guys - I DO NOT recommend you install this on a Pre. If you accidentally allow it to "update" to 1.1, IT MAY BRICK YOUR PRE.

OneDeep · 09/04/2009, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elysian893

I can verify one thing, I just compared the build date on the webOSdoctor I downloaded earlier from Palm, and it was 7/24/09. The one I downloaded from megaupload is 8/30/09.

That was 5 days ago.. Somebody getting fired at Palm

Beknatok · 09/04/2009, 02:13 PM

Started unzipping the various files inside.

The sprint.tar file is already showing differences... here's a quick list of the file apps whose versions have been incremented:

cdmacustomization-sprint_1.0.0-17_armv7.ipk
com.handson.app.nascar_1.0-34_armv7.ipk
com.handson.app.nfl_1.0-28_armv7.ipk
com.palm.app.amazonstore_1.0-62.2_armv7.ipk
com.telenav.app.sprintnavigation_1.0.0-64_armv7.ipk
com.telenav.sprintnavigation_1.0.0-64_armv7.ipk
mobitv-sprint-rtspsrc_1.0.0-16.1_armv7.ipk
palmcustomizationinfo-sprint_1.0-166_all.ipk
sweatshop-sprint-castle_1.1-24_armv7.ipk

Still digging... about to kick on the Emulator

biggnaa20 · 09/04/2009, 02:13 PM

Have you been able to see if the bogus memory partition is gone regarding downloaded apps?

I've got too many and want to try then new official ones (which of course aren't in PREware)

**pogeypre** · 09/04/2009, 02:14 PM

Agree with Dieter. What happens when the real update comes out and you try to upgrade from your incomplete 1.2?

rlopin · 09/04/2009, 02:14 PM

Even if the only thing added to the new WebOS was a required prerequisite to releasing the App Catalog with payment processing, wouldn't it be worth it? It would be followed by a jump in the number of available apps. It would be big news. More developers would potentially join because now there would be a clear financial incentive.

If my resources were limited I'd definitely focus all attention on this. I'd throw in a few bones of whatever low-risk high-value features my Development team and QA team had the bandwidth to achieve. If there were even the slightest chance that adding one of the other new features would break something and cause bad press that would affect the adoption of the Pre I would hold off on it. Low-risk means code that is highly isolated, i.e., it touches as few code files as possible.

Leathal · 09/04/2009, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dieter Bohn

guys - I DO NOT recommend you install this on a Pre. If you accidentally allow it to "update" to 1.1, IT MAY BRICK YOUR PRE.

Replace that "may" with "will." Not a big deal though, just run the doctor again but you'll likely need to hold down the volume up hard key when you plug the USB cable into your Pre to put it into bootloader mode manually.

windzilla · 09/04/2009, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dieter Bohn

guys - I DO NOT recommend you install this on a Pre. If you accidentally allow it to "update" to 1.1, IT MAY BRICK YOUR PRE.

I would agree that caution is important here, unless you are absolutely certain of what you are doing, it is probably best to wait out a few days or so, see if an official update comes, and give experts in the forum time to determine the implications this might have for average Joes.

I have been burned in the past on other platforms, I will be taking Mr Bohn's advice and holding fast for a while.

xorg · 09/04/2009, 02:15 PM

My primary hope is that the phone app is snappier and I don't accidentally hang up on people before even answering the phone.

Otherwise, also hope they take away the 60 app limit and base it on storage avail rather than num of apps.

09/04/2009, 02:07 PM	#121 (permalink)
hoppy785 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 193 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 11 Thanked 17 Times in 10 Posts	don't get me wrong im very happy with this phone, but i dont get why they cant toss in stuff like add a launcher page or ability to text forward... just some of the more simple stuff that the people at webos internalz has already accomplished... i mean damn just ask permission to take their hacks if they dont have time to do it their selfs
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sam1am Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: The SLC Posts: 177 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 24 Thanked 79 Times in 24 Posts	What I want: 1. Speed Improvements 2. I want my connection to stop randomly switching to 1x.
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09/04/2009, 02:08 PM	#124 (permalink)
go4craig Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 32 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 15 Times in 4 Posts	So uh it downloaded 1.1 in the background and when I plugged my phone into charge I accidentally hit install now. Bricked the phone. Won't get past palm logo now. BE CAREFUL
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09/04/2009, 02:08 PM	#125 (permalink)
OneDeep Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,509 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 45 Thanked 131 Times in 106 Posts	Yall better hurry up and install before the admins delete the link..
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09/04/2009, 02:10 PM	#130 (permalink)
Elysian893 Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,561 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 56 Thanked 450 Times in 160 Posts	I can verify one thing, I just compared the build date on the webOSdoctor I downloaded earlier from Palm, and it was 7/24/09. The one I downloaded from megaupload is 8/30/09.
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09/04/2009, 02:12 PM	#132 (permalink)
Dieter Bohn Editor Emeritus Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sunnyvale, CA Posts: 4,872 Likes Received: 6 Thanks: 290 Thanked 1,362 Times in 360 Posts	guys - I DO NOT recommend you install this on a Pre. If you accidentally allow it to "update" to 1.1, IT MAY BRICK YOUR PRE. __________________ This is my next... website
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09/04/2009, 02:13 PM	#134 (permalink)
Beknatok Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 56 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 11 Thanked 10 Times in 4 Posts	Started unzipping the various files inside. The sprint.tar file is already showing differences... here's a quick list of the file apps whose versions have been incremented: cdmacustomization-sprint_1.0.0-17_armv7.ipk com.handson.app.nascar_1.0-34_armv7.ipk com.handson.app.nfl_1.0-28_armv7.ipk com.palm.app.amazonstore_1.0-62.2_armv7.ipk com.telenav.app.sprintnavigation_1.0.0-64_armv7.ipk com.telenav.sprintnavigation_1.0.0-64_armv7.ipk mobitv-sprint-rtspsrc_1.0.0-16.1_armv7.ipk palmcustomizationinfo-sprint_1.0-166_all.ipk sweatshop-sprint-castle_1.1-24_armv7.ipk Still digging... about to kick on the Emulator
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09/04/2009, 02:13 PM	#135 (permalink)
biggnaa20 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Washington DC Posts: 261 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 191 Thanked 37 Times in 27 Posts	Have you been able to see if the bogus memory partition is gone regarding downloaded apps? I've got too many and want to try then new official ones (which of course aren't in PREware)
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pogeypre Man of Steelerator (Super Mod) Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,390 Likes Received: 244 Thanks: 1,769 Thanked 2,612 Times in 1,563 Posts	Agree with Dieter. What happens when the real update comes out and you try to upgrade from your incomplete 1.2?
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09/04/2009, 02:14 PM	#137 (permalink)
rlopin Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 440 Likes Received: 8 Thanks: 112 Thanked 76 Times in 46 Posts	Even if the only thing added to the new WebOS was a required prerequisite to releasing the App Catalog with payment processing, wouldn't it be worth it? It would be followed by a jump in the number of available apps. It would be big news. More developers would potentially join because now there would be a clear financial incentive. If my resources were limited I'd definitely focus all attention on this. I'd throw in a few bones of whatever low-risk high-value features my Development team and QA team had the bandwidth to achieve. If there were even the slightest chance that adding one of the other new features would break something and cause bad press that would affect the adoption of the Pre I would hold off on it. Low-risk means code that is highly isolated, i.e., it touches as few code files as possible. __________________ Phones>Ericsson->iPaq->Treo700w>>PalmPre & TouchPad<<PC<-Amiga<-C64<-Vic20<-PET<Computers
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xorg Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: kansas city, mo Posts: 633 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 85 Thanked 303 Times in 146 Posts	My primary hope is that the phone app is snappier and I don't accidentally hang up on people before even answering the phone. Otherwise, also hope they take away the 60 app limit and base it on storage avail rather than num of apps.
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