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    On my 1st Pre and the speaker just started screwing up.... <sigh>


    Going to see what I can do today at my old Best Buy I used to work at. Hopefully being under 1yr from buying the phone, it'll get replaced.
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    my speaker also has the metal shavings on it and now is broken... Anyone find the OEM speaker for this phone?? i dont have insurance so i need to replace it myself

    edit: im thinking about buying the iphone 3G speaker and just see if that would work.. i mean dont all speakers just have a neg and pos connection?(assuming they both use same voltage) a little soldering should do the job

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  3. #43  
    Jumpman.... can't wait to see that.

    As long as it fits, it'll prolly work. Dimensions are most important concern. Don't think the voltage issue could be a serious problem... but no sense in not checking it out, too.
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    You're probably going to have a hard time finding a speaker for it since Palm has not authorized any technicians to open the phone.. It should be an issue covered under warranty. I can't even say how many I've swapped because of this issue.. but looking back on it, most of them had those tiny metal shards around the screen.. I'll have to do some investigating to try to find the link or to see why these are causing the speaker to blow.
    Definitely good to know though. I consulted our sprint technicans' forum and I'll be getting some feedback on links between the metal shards and speaker failure.
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    #45  
    Wow... I just posted asking about this. Didn't see it at first... I'm on my 6th Pre in 5 weeks. 3 out of them were pure speaker issues. I've seen some tiny filaments there but I don't work with shavings like some of you. I'll try the paper towel trick.

    G..
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    #46  
    i ordered the 3G speaker yesterday off ebay for only $5 and by this tutorial , it looks pretty simple to get access to the speaker

    Im also concerned about the dimensions, but from just eyeballing and guesstimating off the pics.. it looks like the pre has room to spare if the 3G speaker is a little too big.. but we'll see

    I bought the pre used off craigslist so i dont think the warranty will be valid
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    I went to the Sprint store yesterday, and they are replacing mine again. They can't hand me a new one over the counter. It has to be ordered and I have to go back down in a few days to pick it up.

    I've never had this many problems with a phone... It's making me question my Palm loyalty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gearhead51 View Post
    I went to the Sprint store yesterday, and they are replacing mine again. They can't hand me a new one over the counter. It has to be ordered and I have to go back down in a few days to pick it up.

    I've never had this many problems with a phone... It's making me question my Palm loyalty.
    I am on my 7th Pre, 5 of them because of the speaker and i too wonder why i still should be loyal to Palm
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    I am also on #3 because of the speaker. This one also has problems just dont feel like driving down to my sprint store and then driving back to get another phone. Taking the time to set it all up. I just want one that has ZERO issues. My palm 700wx never had issues like this and that thing was beat to death and would work like a champ every day.
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    Jumpman,
    Yeah, good on you to replace the speaker. I don't see any technical problem using another speaker (ohms should be similar). Just make sure you show us how to do it, buddy! I'm ready to change mine, too...

    Here's another site for teardown Palm Pre Teardown - Page 2 - iFixit
  11. #52  
    I think my sister has the same problem. She works in a machine shop. There was some metal slivers in speaker.
  12. #53  
    I've had TONS of audio equipment, quite a bit more than the average consumer, and I break almost all of it in, but I have also dropped in replacement drivers without break in and never suffered a failure. As I said before, the speaker is only used for the (OE) ringer and (OE) alarm. If it can't handle this out of the box, Palm needs to make changes. I'll try breaking it in, but I've never worried about anything like this on such a low-fi piece of hardware.
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    I agree ProCision. I miss the days of my 700p and my Centro. I guess I could get my Centro turned back on, but the Nexus is looking awful cool... C'mon CDMA!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gearhead51 View Post
    I've had TONS of audio equipment, quite a bit more than the average consumer, and I break almost all of it in, but I have also dropped in replacement drivers without break in and never suffered a failure. As I said before, the speaker is only used for the (OE) ringer and (OE) alarm. If it can't handle this out of the box, Palm needs to make changes. I'll try breaking it in, but I've never worried about anything like this on such a low-fi piece of hardware.
    PLEASE DO!!

    I have asked several other people that have had multiple replacements due to speaker to follow the break-in procedure... and they never report back!

    Even if you play static on it all night or whatever (bass heavy music might need to be turned down just a bit for the first few nights), you will notice that the break-in procedure is a real process. It works with engines, batteries, headphones, and several other things.

    Palm did, indeed, choose a very poor speaker... but if you break it in properly, it will work properly. At minimum... don't put it past 90% for the first 2 or 3 nights!!! You can hear the speakers about to blow if you play some bass-heavy music and GRADUALLY move the volume up in small increments. Turn it down a notch [maybe even two ] and then let it play all night. Test the water with another notch the next night... etc. Eventually you will be able to get to 100% with no distortion.

    I'm only about 99.999% sure this is the problem considering a launch day Pre's speaker was blown 2 to 3 hours after the store had opened. I feel like the metal shavings are just a coincidence for a lot of metal workers who are hard of hearing and have to turn it up to 11 *all* the time.
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    #56  
    im 99.99% sure you are wrong... its not just a coincidence that all these people with metal shavings on their speaker have a busted speaker


    Results from my Google adventure
    Shavings can damage your speaker — and your speaker's magnet can attract the
    metal ones. Some experts
    -Chilton's guide to auto electronic accessories: sound, security, safety‎ - Page 124
    Do not get metal shavings inside of speaker. Metal shavings can cause speaker to fail.
    -http://www.soundoffsignal.com/warnamber/sirens-spkrs/literature/ETSS100D.pdf
    Are there any metal shavings attached to the speaker magnet? If so there is a good chance that they're also inside the speaker's voice coil and are slowly killing the speaker.
    -http://www.caraudiobook.com/car_audio_buying_used/car_audio_buying_used_tips.htm
    metal shavings can become imbedded in the cone causing the buzzing
    -yahoo answers (lol)
    With subwoofers, check for metal shavings attached to the magnet: These could get into the voice coil of the sub and cause past or future damage
    -Car Audio For Dummies
    I have yet to find the actual process that goes on that causes the failure or gravely reduced output.. any audio or maybe physics specialist here?
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    Yes, I did the break-in thing. Talk about a love-hate relationship !!
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    #58  
    Quick update on the iphone speaker for the palm pre.. it works! .. but the issue lies in fitting and soldering..

    the iphone speakers is much smaller than the pre's, so a "holder" for the iphone speaker needs to be fabricated so it will fit just as the pre speaker.. also the pos and neg contacts are pretty close to each other so soldering some small/thin pins on this isnt going to be easy..

    i have 4 exams next week (***).... So im going to continue this after next week.. i will post pics and explanations too

    So far all did was take the pre apart, remove the speaker, then tested the iphone speaker by just ghetto rigging 2 short pieces of wire to it and held it to the pre's speaker board contacts while the music player was running.. sounded perfectly normal
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    Quote Originally Posted by tamaran-2000 View Post
    Yes, I did the break-in thing. Talk about a love-hate relationship !!
    Approximately how many hours did you let any audio play before cranking it up to 100%??
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    happened on 2 of mine.....
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