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    Has any one notice that the WebOS side of my Palm periodically uploads information to Palm, Inc.?

    i.e. GPS location, listing all installed ipkg packages etc.
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    treepost
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    Yes, this has be discussed ad nauseum the last couple of days.
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    "Has anyone notice..."

    Well, NO, I have not 'notice' or even 'noticed' that. I suspect you READ it, probably here or on Engadget... and, as Clipcarl said, it has been discussed to death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geogray View Post
    "Has anyone notice..."

    Well, NO, I have not 'notice' or even 'noticed' that. I suspect you READ it, probably here or on Engadget... and, as Clipcarl said, it has been discussed to death.
    Thanks for saying that. I have teeth marks in my tongue... um fingers - trying to keep myself from posting the same reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronlongo View Post
    Thanks for saying that. I have teeth marks in my tongue... um fingers - trying to keep myself from posting the same reply.
    Sigh...this forum is chock full of trolls and fankids (of other companies.) I'm getting so I don't even want to check it any more. I'm really tired of the seemingly endless *****ing and 'I have to return my Pre because...' posts. There's a lot good information here and lots of really smart and helpful people, but the endless barrage of haters is getting old. If this phone were TRULY that bad, Palm would not be able give the damn thing away. The fact that they are selling well just proves that the device is not bad at all.
    Yes, you will always have some defective product, and you will never, ever be able to please everyone but this phone just is not as bad as these people want you to think.
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    I am a palm user for at least 7 years. I have never had any other phone that is not a plam base phone. I love palm products. I just want to know if there is a way to turn it off and if anyone had noticed this.

    That is all.

    YOU DO NOT LIKE Palm products do not buy them. I lke to learn about them push them to the limit and palm WEBos is kind of new to all of us if you do n ot ask questions you will never learn the PALM WEBOS. Any one can just dial a phone and use basic functions.

    this question is for the more advance user not the general herd.

    LONG LIVE PALM
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    how advance of a user? So advanced, you don't need to search the forums cause you already know the answers? Also how did you notice?
    "When there is no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth"


    PM me your questions, If I cant find an answer, I'll show you who can.
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    It's funny how a story gets picked up by national media and all of a sudden, there are 2 million super geeks that are making a new discovery and posting on internet forums not thinking that other people might have actually seen the story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrloserpunk View Post
    how advance of a user? So advanced, you don't need to search the forums cause you already know the answers? Also how did you notice?

    I've been taking a closer look at the WebOS side of my Palm Pre and I noticed that it periodically uploads information to Palm, Inc.

    The first thing sent is intended to be my GPS location. It's the same location I get if I open the map app on the Pre.

    { "errorCode": 0, "timestamp": 1249855555954.000000, "latitude": 36.594108, "longitude": -82.183260, "horizAccuracy": 2523, "heading": 0, "velocity": 0, "altitude": 0, "vertAccuracy": 0 }

    Here they can tell every WebOS app I use, and for how long.

    { "appid": "com.palm.app.phone", "event": "close", "timestamp": 1250006362 }
    { "appid": "com.palm.app.messaging", "event": "launch", "timestamp": 1250006422 }
    { "appid": "com.palm.app.messaging", "event": "close", "timestamp": 1250006446 }

    It sends the above info on a daily basis.


    2009-08-09T17:01:22Z upload /var/log/rdxd/pending/rdxd_log_59.tgz OK RDX-30246857
    2009-08-09T17:05:36Z upload /var/log/rdxd/pending/rdxd_log_26.tgz OK RDX-30249465
    2009-08-09T17:09:11Z upload /var/log/rdxd/pending/rdxd_log_56.tgz OK RDX-30252374
    2009-08-09T17:11:46Z upload /var/log/rdxd/pending/rdxd_log_70.tgz OK RDX-30253958
    2009-08-09T17:16:29Z upload /var/log/rdxd/pending/rdxd_log_67.tgz ERR_UPLOAD_THROTTLED_DAILY
    2009-08-09T17:17:28Z upload /var/log/rdxd/pending/rdxd_log_51.tgz ERR_UPLOAD_THROTTLED_DAILY
    2009-08-09T17:20:40Z upload /var/log/rdxd/pending/rdxd_log_21.tgz ERR_UPLOAD_THROTTLED_DAILY

    Each tarball contains a kernel dmesg, syslog, a manifest.txt listing all installed ipkg packages (including third-party apps), a backtrace of the crash, a df (from which they can tell I'm using Debian on the phone), and ps -f output listing all processes owned by root (but not by joey).

    The uploading is handled by uploadd, which reads /etc/uploadd.conf:

    [SERVER=rdx]
    RepositoryURL=https://<HOST>/palmcsext/prefRequest?prefkey=APPLICATIONS,RDX_SRV
    UploadURL=https://<HOST>/palmcsext/RDFileReceiver

    [SERVER=context]
    RepositoryURL=https://<HOST>/palmcsext/prefRequest?prefkey=APPLICATIONS,RDX_SRV
    UploadURL=https://<HOST>//palmcsext/RDFileReceiver
    The "HOST" this is sent to via https is ps.palmws.com.


    NOW ANYON KNOWS WOH TO TURN IT OFF?

    THANK YOU
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    I never saw that before
    FrankenPre2!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tungsten C View Post
    I've been taking a closer look at the WebOS side of my Palm Pre and I noticed that it periodically uploads information to Palm, Inc.

    The first thing sent is intended to be my GPS location. It's the same location I get if I open the map app on the Pre.

    { "errorCode": 0, "timestamp": 1249855555954.000000, "latitude": 36.594108, "longitude": -82.183260, "horizAccuracy": 2523, "heading": 0, "velocity": 0, "altitude": 0, "vertAccuracy": 0 }

    Here they can tell every WebOS app I use, and for how long.

    { "appid": "com.palm.app.phone", "event": "close", "timestamp": 1250006362 }
    { "appid": "com.palm.app.messaging", "event": "launch", "timestamp": 1250006422 }
    { "appid": "com.palm.app.messaging", "event": "close", "timestamp": 1250006446 }

    It sends the above info on a daily basis.


    2009-08-09T17:01:22Z upload /var/log/rdxd/pending/rdxd_log_59.tgz OK RDX-30246857
    2009-08-09T17:05:36Z upload /var/log/rdxd/pending/rdxd_log_26.tgz OK RDX-30249465
    2009-08-09T17:09:11Z upload /var/log/rdxd/pending/rdxd_log_56.tgz OK RDX-30252374
    2009-08-09T17:11:46Z upload /var/log/rdxd/pending/rdxd_log_70.tgz OK RDX-30253958
    2009-08-09T17:16:29Z upload /var/log/rdxd/pending/rdxd_log_67.tgz ERR_UPLOAD_THROTTLED_DAILY
    2009-08-09T17:17:28Z upload /var/log/rdxd/pending/rdxd_log_51.tgz ERR_UPLOAD_THROTTLED_DAILY
    2009-08-09T17:20:40Z upload /var/log/rdxd/pending/rdxd_log_21.tgz ERR_UPLOAD_THROTTLED_DAILY

    Each tarball contains a kernel dmesg, syslog, a manifest.txt listing all installed ipkg packages (including third-party apps), a backtrace of the crash, a df (from which they can tell I'm using Debian on the phone), and ps -f output listing all processes owned by root (but not by joey).

    The uploading is handled by uploadd, which reads /etc/uploadd.conf:

    [SERVER=rdx]
    RepositoryURL=https://<HOST>/palmcsext/prefRequest?prefkey=APPLICATIONS,RDX_SRV
    UploadURL=https://<HOST>/palmcsext/RDFileReceiver

    [SERVER=context]
    RepositoryURL=https://<HOST>/palmcsext/prefRequest?prefkey=APPLICATIONS,RDX_SRV
    UploadURL=https://<HOST>//palmcsext/RDFileReceiver
    The "HOST" this is sent to via https is ps.palmws.com.


    NOW ANYON KNOWS WOH TO TURN IT OFF?

    THANK YOU
    you can turn it off by pulling out the battery. It will no longer upload the location of your secret base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tungsten C View Post
    NOW ANYON KNOWS WOH TO TURN IT OFF?

    THANK YOU
    Why don't you ask Joey Hess? You seem to already be familiar with HIS work: http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/a_tempest_in_a_teapot/

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