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  1. #21  
    I had a tethering APP on my Q9C...I never was charged by sprint for it...and I didn't feel dirty for using it either...

    Why is this different with the PRE?

    again I had a tethering app come STOCK on my Motorola Q9C...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbg7474 View Post
    I seriously doubt there is anything Sprint could do about it even if they wanted to. It's not clear to me that they could actually detect the fact that My Tether is running the way things are currently. It's not like the old phone as modem where you actually dial in to the Sprint network from your computer. My Tether is actually sharing the internet connection--your phone is always the primary connector to the network. As long as people don't do the "Sprint is now my primary ISP" thing, I think we're pretty safe.

    Sprint is already getting good money out of us. If they were really smart, they would charge us an extra $5-10 per month for the capability and make a little more, and then everything would be above board. But since they're not doing that, and just saying we can't, people are going to make the mods necessary to do it. Can't provide a device with these kinds of capabilities and expect people aren't going to use them.
    Actually the Phone as Modem plan is $15 dollars a month. The issue is that just like all data card plans and Phone as modem plans it has a 5 Gigabyte cap. The Everything plans that are required with the Pre can't have this 5 Gig cap built in or they wouldn't really be unlimited. Anyone that is a heavy Sprint TV/Pandora/Streaming Porn user would easily bust this Cap after a few weeks and have all sorts of data overage charges. To have tethering "Legally" on Sprint you have to have a data pack that is $30 + the $15 PAM plan. It's easier to just pay the extra $5 and get a $50 aircard especially with 4g rolling out in alot of the big cities. Sucks overall that it takes all this hacking or extra $$ to make this work but I have a feeling that someone in the past used their phone to download 100's of gigs of torrents and ruined it for all of us.
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    they found about tethering with the instinct. stopped it, and another work-a-round was created. if there's a will, there's a way!!1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grays View Post
    Actually the Phone as Modem plan is $15 dollars a month. The issue is that just like all data card plans and Phone as modem plans it has a 5 Gigabyte cap. The Everything plans that are required with the Pre can't have this 5 Gig cap built in or they wouldn't really be unlimited. Anyone that is a heavy Sprint TV/Pandora/Streaming Porn user would easily bust this Cap after a few weeks and have all sorts of data overage charges. To have tethering "Legally" on Sprint you have to have a data pack that is $30 + the $15 PAM plan. It's easier to just pay the extra $5 and get a $50 aircard especially with 4g rolling out in alot of the big cities. Sucks overall that it takes all this hacking or extra $$ to make this work but I have a feeling that someone in the past used their phone to download 100's of gigs of torrents and ruined it for all of us.
    last time i checked, it was $50 for the phone as modem add on plan
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    Quote Originally Posted by lamboh View Post
    last time i checked, it was $50 for the phone as modem add on plan
    engadget.com/2008/08/21/sprint-drops-phone-as-modem-plan-to-15-per-month-adds-stipulat/

    (Sorry your going to have to add the www to the above yourself I'm too new to post links apparently)
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    I think Sprint kind of knew a tethering hack would be coming. This is the choice they knowingly made. Not many will use it. But if they offer it, many will, they have to support it, and it eats away at their data card sales.

    I don't necessarily agree with this approach. Voice/data is a problem for sprint. A data card mitigates it. Tethering with a phone has its limitations (you can't do both) and should cost less.

    Me thinks Sprint could sell a lot of netbooks..preferably Asus.. (or mifi) with 30 a month data plans (for existing customers with sprint). 60 is too much. As with sprint Premier, let em upgrade in a year.

    I think bigger storage non-phone Pre's (think ipod touch) have chances with an optional 15-20 a month data plan only. Media availability needs work though (cough..amazon..cough) as well as getting something standard going in place of itunes that improves upon it.
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    like Sprint is so naive about WMWifirouter on WM phones. Please! They know where the traffic comes from their network.
    Phone history with Sprint since April 2001: Kyocera QCP-2035, LG Touchpoint 1100, Samsung i500, Treo 650, Treo 700p, Treo 755p, HTC Mogul, Blackberry 8830, Samsung A900M, Motorola ic902, Blackberry Curve 8330, Samsung Instinct, HTC Touch, Treo 800w, Touch Diamond, Touch Pro, Motorola i9, Treo Pro (personal)/Iphone 3G 16GB (gone to make room for Pre), Palm Pre, blackberry tour, iPhone 3GS 32GB
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    #28  
    The Pre had tethering originally built in, but Sprint had them disable it before its release in June.
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    OH NO!!! Do you mean that the Sprint people are not locked into their ivory towers, AND that everything we post on here isn't held in absolute secrecy?!? I'd better go through all of my old posts to make sure that I haven't said anything that could get me in trouble!

    Seriously, the professionals know what's going on here. We aren't some hidden society of pirates that are doing something under the radar. And the Sprint people know that good Homebrews will only increase the popularity of the Pre. I was very frustrated with my Pre and considering some kind of switch before all of these Homebrews started coming out. Now I can show my Pre off with pride, and people are really starting to envy me. (even Apple people) The more versatile the phone is, the more popular it will become. And as we used to say in journalism school, "There's no such thing as negative press. ANY press is free advertising!" (Remember the Tylenol scare?)
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    It should be fairly easy for Sprint to detect tethering.
    I'm not revealing any great secret here when I mention that
    the Pre's browser doesn't support Flash objects yet so if Sprint detects
    .swf files being fetched over their network to your phone's address, it's fairly
    obvious why. It's pretty hard to go anywhere on the web without
    running into embedded flash objects.

    That said, if you're not a complete *****, there's no reason your
    tethering should jump out at them. For the most part I do
    pretty much the same things on my laptop that I do on the phone.
    Read/post in forums, check email, watch a few YouTube vids.
    Occasionally VPN into my office network to check email there.
    I use no more data doing that, than I would using the phone.
    If you're downloading full res movies and TV shows over your phone's
    data plan, or maxing it out with multi-player gaming then
    you probably deserve to be noticed.

    ian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    It should be fairly easy for Sprint to detect tethering.
    I'm not revealing any great secret here when I mention that
    the Pre's browser doesn't support Flash objects yet so if Sprint detects
    .swf files being fetched over their network to your phone's address, it's fairly
    obvious why. It's pretty hard to go anywhere on the web without
    running into embedded flash objects.
    The Pre will get flash eventually, so this won't be true forever. But it's a good point in the short term. Though I guess you could download an .swf with wget, but anyone who would do that just because they could (since there's no other reason to do so) probably is also tethering!
    Palm III-->Handspring Visor-->Sony Clie PEG-NR70-->no PDA -->Palm Treo 755p-->Palm Pre-->HP Veer
  12. #32  
    PDANet has been selling tethering apps for other platforms for a long time. Sprint hasn't sued them, they're not going to sue the developer of MyTether. It's not illegal to write a software program that tethers, and the TOS applies to what you do with your phone, not to what a developer writes.

    As long as tethering is used by relatively few, Sprint will probably continue to ignore it. But if it becomes too widely used, they'll figure out a technical way to shut it down, not go after software developers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grays View Post
    engadget.com/2008/08/21/sprint-drops-phone-as-modem-plan-to-15-per-month-adds-stipulat/
    PAM isn't available on the everything plans, I don't belive, at any price. They want you to buy a laptop card.

    Quote Originally Posted by tweak41 View Post
    The way I see it, they shouldn't package the "unlimited" data with the phone if they don't mean it. Who are they to tell you how you go about using that data?
    "unlmited" means unlimited on your phone, on unlimited period. Would you think it reasonable to connect your Pre to a wireless router, and let all your neighbors access the internet that way? The amount of data you're likely to consume on a phone is considerably less than you're capable of consuming on a PC. The small screen tends to limit the use of extremely high bandwidth sites. Not so on a laptop. And you're not likely to download things like updates to MS Word on your phone--you might on a laptop. I have no doubt that people who tether regularly tend to use a lot more bandwidth than people who don't.

    As for "who are they", read your TOS. When you sign up for the phone, you agree to its terms, and those terms forbid tethering. As long as you sign the contract, Sprint has every right to enforce the contract.
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  13. #33  
    Quote Originally Posted by migs View Post
    It's not that serious of a problem or they wouldnt sell Laptop cards....

    Sprints just wants our $$$
    is there something wrong with sprint wanting our money?
    I want your money too.
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