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webOS Nation Forums > webOS smartphones (Pre, Pixi, Veer) > Palm Pre and Pre Plus > I am RETURNING because .... (part II)
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Originally Posted by noblejohn:
I bought my Pre 6/6. Obsessed over it since CES in January. Last weekend (Friday) my fiance bought the 3GS 16 GB white....by Sunday evening I was speaking with retentions about cancelling my account, returning my Pre (my 3rd one I must add) and anxiously waiting to join the cult of Apple followers.
The Pre is a good, solid, smartly designed phone. But Palm tried TOO hard. Was the Apple crew at Palm a gift or curse????? I say both but ultimately it was a curse for me. Palm rushed to get the Pre out before Apple WWDC and dropped the ball. The Palm Pre is a beta product. I had 3 Palm Pre's in 5 weeks (and needed a fourth). EACH Pre had a horrendous, embarrassing shameful battery (Shame on you Palm!!!). I went from 1.0.01 to 1.0.04 and only saw very minor battery life improvement. I was told by Sprint repeatedly to dim the screen all the way (iPhone 3GS default is MAX brightness), turn off push Gmail, turn off GPS, turn off Wifi when not in use, always keep Wifi on (yes, i was told to do both), dont leave apps open when not using (*** is multitasking then?!?!?!), dont sync Google Calendar, dont sync AIM, sign out of Gtalk/AIM when not in use (which TOTALLY defeats the purpose of IM) and to not remain in an area with poor signal coverage (my Pre ALWAYS had 1-2 bars at home where I use it most...my Blackberry 8330 had 3-4...3GS ALWAYS, without fail has 5 bars).
But I digress. If I did indeed make all these changes, I wouldnt have a smartphone but rather a....dumb phone???
My other main problem other than battery life was the screen. EACH of the 3 Pre's had dead pixels (b/w 1 and 20!) and overheated, which caused discoloration on the bottom of my screen. Every one. And the warranty date ranged from 5/27 on my first Pre to 6/26 on my final Pre. Not to mention how terribly SLUGGISH the Pre gets when multitasking (even basic, not intense), the memory leaks (telling me I cant open any more cards with only ONE open?!?!?!?!?!) and the painfully annoying low signal strength and dropped calls (hardly EVER had dropped calls with my blackberry....not 1 with 3GS)
Needless to say, I left Sprint and went to iPhone. And my what a difference a week makes. 2 days of casually using and experiencing the iPhone wiped away 6 months of Pre obsession and 5 weeks of heavy Pre use (I really felt like a beta tester).
I have not had one single solitary delay or hiccup since I bought this phone. Have 5 bars 90% of the time, SIGNIFICANTLY improved battery (I mean night and day people), SIGNIFICANTLY improved web browing (faster, better youtube and quicktime video integration, better formating, autofill, better bookmark mgmt & syncronization, etc.), smooth and responsive EVERY DAY ALL DAY, bigger and better screen (glass vs plastic, no repeated taps like with Pre) and of course 65,000 apps vs 30. I could go on and on but I dont wanna **** my PreCentral fam off. Just sharing my experience. But we shoud not accept sub par build quality just because Palm needs the Pre out before iPhone 3GS.
I'd rather deal with those minor things than feel like a fat monkey smashing my fingers against a piece of glass that can't tell what i want to write for the life of it. i have actual work to do, clients to email, etc etc. Sure the iphone works alright, its a mac. but the pre has a real keyboard = its the same damn elitist design flaw apple did with their single button mice. its a terrible design.I bought my Pre 6/6. Obsessed over it since CES in January. Last weekend (Friday) my fiance bought the 3GS 16 GB white....by Sunday evening I was speaking with retentions about cancelling my account, returning my Pre (my 3rd one I must add) and anxiously waiting to join the cult of Apple followers.
The Pre is a good, solid, smartly designed phone. But Palm tried TOO hard. Was the Apple crew at Palm a gift or curse????? I say both but ultimately it was a curse for me. Palm rushed to get the Pre out before Apple WWDC and dropped the ball. The Palm Pre is a beta product. I had 3 Palm Pre's in 5 weeks (and needed a fourth). EACH Pre had a horrendous, embarrassing shameful battery (Shame on you Palm!!!). I went from 1.0.01 to 1.0.04 and only saw very minor battery life improvement. I was told by Sprint repeatedly to dim the screen all the way (iPhone 3GS default is MAX brightness), turn off push Gmail, turn off GPS, turn off Wifi when not in use, always keep Wifi on (yes, i was told to do both), dont leave apps open when not using (*** is multitasking then?!?!?!), dont sync Google Calendar, dont sync AIM, sign out of Gtalk/AIM when not in use (which TOTALLY defeats the purpose of IM) and to not remain in an area with poor signal coverage (my Pre ALWAYS had 1-2 bars at home where I use it most...my Blackberry 8330 had 3-4...3GS ALWAYS, without fail has 5 bars).
But I digress. If I did indeed make all these changes, I wouldnt have a smartphone but rather a....dumb phone???
My other main problem other than battery life was the screen. EACH of the 3 Pre's had dead pixels (b/w 1 and 20!) and overheated, which caused discoloration on the bottom of my screen. Every one. And the warranty date ranged from 5/27 on my first Pre to 6/26 on my final Pre. Not to mention how terribly SLUGGISH the Pre gets when multitasking (even basic, not intense), the memory leaks (telling me I cant open any more cards with only ONE open?!?!?!?!?!) and the painfully annoying low signal strength and dropped calls (hardly EVER had dropped calls with my blackberry....not 1 with 3GS)
Needless to say, I left Sprint and went to iPhone. And my what a difference a week makes. 2 days of casually using and experiencing the iPhone wiped away 6 months of Pre obsession and 5 weeks of heavy Pre use (I really felt like a beta tester).
I have not had one single solitary delay or hiccup since I bought this phone. Have 5 bars 90% of the time, SIGNIFICANTLY improved battery (I mean night and day people), SIGNIFICANTLY improved web browing (faster, better youtube and quicktime video integration, better formating, autofill, better bookmark mgmt & syncronization, etc.), smooth and responsive EVERY DAY ALL DAY, bigger and better screen (glass vs plastic, no repeated taps like with Pre) and of course 65,000 apps vs 30. I could go on and on but I dont wanna **** my PreCentral fam off. Just sharing my experience. But we shoud not accept sub par build quality just because Palm needs the Pre out before iPhone 3GS.
plus its forced me to be smarter with my calender and contacts for better sync with the pre. even with apple's 'flawless' syncing to my macs, i still had to pay a month fee just to have my damn phone sync'd on mobile me. now i'm on google and everything is sync'd great - house - work - phone. No problems.
service is cheaper, nights start earlier, etc etc etc.
imo, the iphone sucks. and im an interactive designer that wouldn't ever use a pc for design work.
Originally Posted by groovy:
I would too. Fortunately, my Pre has none of the above.
Me either. Mine doesn't overheat, the slider is fine, apps switch quick and seamlessly, no dead pixels, battery life is acceptable with the stock battery, etc etc. Basically the total opposite of whatever that guy wrote.I would too. Fortunately, my Pre has none of the above.
The iPhone is a fine device, but I would do anything to avoid AT&T and especially avoid their outrageous plan prices.
I think Palm did a fine job for a 1st gen device. Certainly much better than the 1st iPhone.
I actually left AT&T/Cingular to come to Sprint. Sprint's service and price packages are deal breakers for the iPhone. I can safely say I will never own one. But I do have and iPod Touch. 
Oh and I third that notion of having a good Pre. Maybe your phone was just a bad apple. Oh I made a funny.
Oh and I third that notion of having a good Pre. Maybe your phone was just a bad apple. Oh I made a funny.
Why is NobleJohn not banned yet?
Originally Posted by noblejohn:
no, but i would expect a phone that $450 mil was poured into to at least have a decent battery. Multi tasking is the core of webOS, but the battery is garbage and cant handle multiple cards,Synergy, 3G/WiFi radios....so *** is the purpose of all those features if the device cant handle it??
Think about it. Why do you think Palm was the first to introduce such a high end, convenient wireless charger to the market? BECAUSE THE PHONE LIVES ON THE CHARGER THATS WHY.
Palm wants you guys to accept mediocrity and sub par performance and cheap manufacturing (dead pixels, wobbly sliders, discolored screens, ***** for a battery that overheats,etc.) i refuse to.
troll no, but i would expect a phone that $450 mil was poured into to at least have a decent battery. Multi tasking is the core of webOS, but the battery is garbage and cant handle multiple cards,Synergy, 3G/WiFi radios....so *** is the purpose of all those features if the device cant handle it??
Think about it. Why do you think Palm was the first to introduce such a high end, convenient wireless charger to the market? BECAUSE THE PHONE LIVES ON THE CHARGER THATS WHY.
Palm wants you guys to accept mediocrity and sub par performance and cheap manufacturing (dead pixels, wobbly sliders, discolored screens, ***** for a battery that overheats,etc.) i refuse to.
i hate apple fan boys they have nothing better to do
its sad really
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