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  1. #21  
    yeah, I'm having similar issue. Charged, and then for some reason randomly it will discharge in about 10 minutes.

    I feel it might be something new I installed. Possibly, a new overclock kernel.

    Just try and keep it near a charger.

    Not sure what else to do. I'm definitely not investing anything more for this phone. I'm holding out as long as possibly for new WebOS phones.

    But this battery is almost 2 years old at this point.

    Rob
    Robert L
    Astoria Queens, N.Y.C
    - Palm Pre (Sprint) - formally Palm Treo 650
    Version 1.4.1.1
    Sprint Configuration 2.3
    Model: P100EWW
    Hardware Version: A
    Firmware: CC1.4(510)

  2. #22  
    Just to weigh in, I had this issue and it was also my USB Cable. It was shorting out, and while the phone recognized it was plugged in to the charger, no juice was actually flowing :\

    I also just picked up a new cable/wall charger for 8 bucks, along with a brand new battery for 3.99. All of the items were new Palm OEM. Thats cheap enough that its worth it to spend the $12 to get an extra cable/battery, and either have it fix your problem, or provide you with a spare once you get your Pre fixed.
  3. #23  
    Unfortunately its not the usb cable.

    I have 3 palm chargers, 3 after market cables and two car chargers. All have the same effect on this phone.

    My other palm phones charge fine.
  4. #24  
    Quote Originally Posted by carr76013 View Post
    My Govnah battery reading on charger/touchstone is -21 to -18

    I was able to get into the positive (24mA) by disabling the radio. Needless to say I rather have a functioning phone.

    I have tried multiple batteries (5) so I have pulled the battery before. At the moment I use an external charger for my extra batteries and swap when needed.
    What is the drain in mA when not charging and no apps running?
  5. #25  
    Quote Originally Posted by rlanza1054 View Post
    yeah, I'm having similar issue. Charged, and then for some reason randomly it will discharge in about 10 minutes.

    Not sure what else to do. I'm definitely not investing anything more for this phone.

    But this battery is almost 2 years old at this point.
    You can get an OEM Palm Pre battery from Amazon, current price is only $3.49 shipped.

    If you are using a 2 year old battery, it's a safe bet that it needs replaced.
  6. #27  
    When I reinstall Novacom do I have to have the device plugged in?

    If so "Just Charge" or as a USB Drive?
  7. #28  
    Quote Originally Posted by somline View Post
    What is the drain in mA when not charging and no apps running?
    Around -125mA, pretty normal actually.
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    #29  
    If your battery is 2 years old your lucky it is still charging. I have replaced the batteries on 2 Pres under a year old, covered by warranty fortunately. I also bought spare batteries and a charger off ebay (all non-OEM) but they work in a pinch. Dr. Battery helped me to diagnose the problem to the battery so that would be where I would start. Good luck!
  9. #30  
    Quote Originally Posted by carr76013 View Post
    Around -125mA, pretty normal actually.
    Than we know now, that’s not an app freaking out
    First I would recommend following sczajkaand trekkers advice and buy a new bat for <5$ @amazon.
    Last edited by somline; 01/10/2011 at 09:49 AM.
  10. #31  
    Defiantly not a battery issue.

    Like I mentioned I have tried 5 batteries, that all function normally on my other WebOS phones.

    Thanks to all you guys for the help/suggestions so far. I have tried every single one of them!
  11. #32  
    OK it's not:
    USB Cable or charger
    A process running wild

    Next thing I would do is monitoring the logfile /var/log/messages (with some terminal app, ssh or Lumberjack) when connecting the charger.
    Or
    Doctor the phone.

    There is the process "powerd" responsible for the charging process.
    From the log:
    Code:
    2011-01-11T02:40:15.159332Z [2423] palm-webos-device user.info powerd: {powerd}: CHG_LOGIC: ChargeStateTransitionLog in idle (P: 94%, T: 37 C, C: -155 mA, V: 4089 mV, AUTH true, Charger disabled: inductive @ 700mA)
    2011-01-11T02:40:15.194885Z [2423] palm-webos-device user.info powerd: {powerd}: CHG_LOGIC: BatteryOverchargeFault overcharge diag: raw = (934.375) > 06f (full_mAh [1150] * age [85.9375] / 100) = (988.281))
    2011-01-11T02:40:15.210601Z [2423] palm-webos-device user.info powerd: {powerd}: CHG_LOGIC: debug_battery_taper (charging, type=0, 921.599976mAh, 94%, 37C, -155mA, 4089mV, (avg)-153mA, min=0mA, max=0mV, taper_state=overcharge-debug, battery_state=charge-termination,  battery-authentic charger-connected) 
    2011-01-11T02:40:15.210998Z [2423] palm-webos-device user.info powerd: {powerd}: CHG_LOGIC: ChargeStateTransitionLog in charging (P: 94%, T: 37 C, C: -155 mA, V: 4089 mV, AUTH true, Charger enabled: inductive @ 700mA)
    2011-01-11T02:40:15.271209Z [2423] palm-webos-device user.info powerd: {powerd}: CHG_LOGIC: Sucessful chargeSourceSet puck @ 700.
    2011-01-11T02:40:25.157684Z [2433] palm-webos-device user.info powerd: {powerd}: BATTERY_IPC: (921.599976mAh, 95%, 100%_ui, 37C, 414mA, 4148mV, authentic) 
    2011-01-11T02:40:37.281463Z [2445] palm-webos-device user.notice powerd: {powerd}: sawmill_logger_update: raw_coulomb: 936.25000
    But after a doctor you know that it's a hardware problem or not.
  12. #33  
    I have already tried to doctor my phone, but i'll look into the logs.

    I created a custom entry in Lumberjack for /var/log/messages but I dont see any output

    I am doing this correctly?
  13. #34  
    I got this from another thread
    http://forums.precentral.net/newrepl...eply&p=2733326


    Quote Originally Posted by arrasmith View Post
    The real check is to look at /var/log/messages for the failures. If you have Terminal installed a quick check is to open Terminal, hit the power button, wait 30 seconds, and hit the power button again. If you see lots of ...

    powerd: System going to sleep now
    powerd: System woke up

    then you have the same problem as me. If you only see one of each then your Pre is going to extreme power save correctly.
    Looks like my pre is NOT going into extreme power saving mode. Ill read through the thread and post back here if I find anything.
  14. #35  
    Looks like the NoDoze method will only help for when the phone is not being charged, should help battery life though.
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