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  1. #61  
    Quote Originally Posted by pomokey View Post
    haha, well now... you have no timestamps.. but I have timestamps, that are the wrong time. lol. you can't win I guess...
    No timestamps here, either. I just have the top bar mentioning around the time the texts were sent and no bar that says Sent on:
  2. #62  
    Quote Originally Posted by pomokey View Post
    I'm not sure what everyone is going on about timestamps.. I have timestamps (for messages received) but.. they are an hour off:



    can someone else please confirm if they have the same issue?

    What settings did you use to get the time stamps?
  3. #63  
    Quote Originally Posted by searchable View Post
    No need really. The Pre will break up the message into multiple SMS texts, and then the receiving phone (if it's relatively new) will automatically concatenate the multiple messages.
    Of course, if your receiver doesn't have a text plan, you've just made them pay for 2 messages, where a counter might have let you keep it to 1.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanis View Post
    I can't believe the Pre doesn't make me ham sandwiches and clean my bathtub. Palm really dropped the ball.
    You know, these kinds of replies are just stupid. They sound just like the Apple fanboy responses anytime someone says they don't like something about the iPhone. The missing features on virtually ALL of the Pre apps aren't wild, new ideas that no one's done before. They're basic features that pretty much every other smart phone has today. The missing features in the text app are available on many cheapo throw-away phones these days, and certainly on every feature phone with a keyboard.

    You can love your Pre all you want, but to think it's not lacking a lot is just closing your eyes to the truth.

    Quote Originally Posted by derik123derik123 View Post
    will probably get in a new update
    And that's a fanboy response, too. There's a whole lot of optimism around here, but no one knows for sure what Palm's thoughts are. There's a very real possibility Palm thinks these features aren't all that important, and we'll never see them. Or, if Palm does want to add them, there's no indication of how soon that will happen.

    I really, really wanted to like the Pre. But I'm really glad I didn't buy one on Saturday. I need a device that's supports me today, not in 6 months or a year, when Palm finally (maybe) gets around to adding the features that I have today on my decades-old-technology P-OS phone.
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  4. #64  
    I would agree that the Pre is missing many obvious features, but everything mentioned thus far on text messaging is pretty irrelevant. Why do you need to know the exact minute a message came in, if you know when the conversation started? If you've moved away from the conversation, it'll tell you what time.

    I can say the same for forwarding messages. I didn't even know it was possible to forward messages on ANY phone until it was mentioned here, and I've never seen anyone use it.
  5. #65  
    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn McKenzie View Post
    I would agree that the Pre is missing many obvious features, but everything mentioned thus far on text messaging is pretty irrelevant. Why do you need to know the exact minute a message came in, if you know when the conversation started? If you've moved away from the conversation, it'll tell you what time.

    I can say the same for forwarding messages. I didn't even know it was possible to forward messages on ANY phone until it was mentioned here, and I've never seen anyone use it.
    I think because these phones (such as old Treos and iPhone) have continuous conversations. That's why the time date stamp is important.
  6. #66  
    Quote Originally Posted by pomokey View Post
    I'm not sure what everyone is going on about timestamps.. I have timestamps (for messages received) but.. they are an hour off:



    can someone else please confirm if they have the same issue?
    Sounds like a discrepency in timezone between your pre and your carriernetwork...
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  7. #67  
    Quote Originally Posted by ToolkiT View Post
    Sounds like a discrepency in timezone between your pre and your carriernetwork...
    That's most likely the issue. I set my timezone manually because Sprint kept making it Atlantic time (GMT -4) instead of EDT. Sprint's network time setting works fine (and is a separate setting), but the timezones on their servers must be set wrong.

    I haven't had any problems since making that change.
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    #68  
    Interesting, but I just checked my text messages, and I have time stamps on conversations.

    I wonder if you never close the app down, it doesn't renew the time stamp? Each time I am done with a text message, if I don't feel it generates a response, i will just close it down. But the ones I left open, it doesn't time stamp every SMS. Also, anything from last week, time stamps seemed to be erased, a date stamp would be nice at least.
  9. #69  
    It works, but their phone may not be able to handle it.. (pics from the pre; im pretty sure are larger files because the camera is 3.2 mega pixels...)
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    #70  
    Quote Originally Posted by pomokey View Post
    I'm not sure what everyone is going on about timestamps.. I have timestamps (for messages received) but.. they are an hour off:



    can someone else please confirm if they have the same issue?

    I too have time stamps out of the box, haven't upgraded firmware yet, and the times are correct.
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    #71  
    Quote Originally Posted by noto220 View Post
    But like you think in 1.0 as a base you would include the basic things someone uses on a phone that a 2001 phone has come on.
    Haha...yea, like, you'd think all PDAs/smartphones made after 1998 would have Copy + Paste as features. Surely they wouldn't need to reach version 3.0, years after their release, to incorporate a basic feature...*cough*iPhone*cough*
  12. #72  
    The lack of text messaging features like cut-and-paste, forwarding, and time-stamps is one of the most critical issues for me. I'm an Unix systems admin and and get paged frequently for issues and on my Treo I acknowledge tickets coming in via SMS with e-mail forwards. The lack of this makes my business life very ugly. And the poor text ring will not wake me up either in the middle of the night.

    I only hope Palm fixes this in the first round of updates.

    I'm going on-call this Thursday. Let's see if the Pre survives it (or if I keep my job since I oversleep nightly alerts and don't fix servers).
  13. #73  
    I hadn't noticed most of these issues until reading this thread. I did notice the copy/paste in the web browser (which did really disappoint me as I wanted to copy some text from a page) and that there aren't a bunch of emoticons (not that I really care about them, they're stupid other than smiley, frown and wink). Without being able to forward, copy/paste should at least work. I would have no problems copying a text into a new text if it was possible. On mine, the timestamp is not on every message, but it is frequent enough that I could care less. I think it shows up when the card is closed? Surprised about the ringtones too, but I have my sounds off, so I never noticed.
  14. #74  
    FYI, "forward" is a hack for "resend", which I had to do on a very long text this morning.

    I use "forward" all the time when someone sends me an address and I need to send it to somebody else. Entering it manually is annoying.
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    #75  
    Quote Originally Posted by Insp_Gadget View Post
    That's most likely the issue. I set my timezone manually because Sprint kept making it Atlantic time (GMT -4) instead of EDT. Sprint's network time setting works fine (and is a separate setting), but the timezones on their servers must be set wrong.

    I haven't had any problems since making that change.
    how do I change the timezone?

    edit: I found where to change it, but it is set correctly...

    also, I did nothing to get the timestamps to show up. they were just there, and have always been there (I am running 1.0.2)
  16. #76  
    Quote Originally Posted by Esprit9 View Post
    Please let me know if the following issues are w/ me or the Pre's lack of:

    * Doesn't FWD basic txt messages
    * Doesn't have a page where one can see txt mess. inbox/sent/draft/etc..
    * Can't change ringtone for txt messages
    * No "Delete All" / "Delete only Outgoing"/ etc...

    My 2004 Krazer cell phone has all this... It MUST be me right? Searched and cannot find answers to the above.

    Thanks in advance,

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    #77  
    Quote Originally Posted by ecoquariums View Post
    How do scroll up and down within your text message? I'm trying to edit some text and can't seem to scroll within message. Please help
    either tap where you want to edit, or hold the orange key and swipe left or right on the screen to move the cursor. you don't have to swipe on the text, just make left and right motions anywhere on the screen.
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    #78  
    Quote Originally Posted by 180to650 View Post
    I too have time stamps out of the box, haven't upgraded firmware yet, and the times are correct.
    The time discrepancy is from when you received the text and when it was sent. The actual message was sent at 4:05 but wasn't received until 5:05 on your phone.
  19. #79  
    Quote Originally Posted by meyerweb View Post
    You know, these kinds of replies are just stupid. They sound just like the Apple fanboy responses anytime someone says they don't like something about the iPhone.
    And most of the complainers, like yourself, sound like people that really have no understanding of what it means to be an early adopter of a 1.0 version of a brand new OPERATING SYSTEM.

    Things will be missing. Things will get added. Most of us understood and accepted this when we bought the phone. I'm sorry you can't.

    The missing features on virtually ALL of the Pre apps aren't wild, new ideas that no one's done before. They're basic features that pretty much every other smart phone has today. The missing features in the text app are available on many cheapo throw-away phones these days, and certainly on every feature phone with a keyboard.
    Again, you need to accept the fact that this is an entirely new platform. List how many phones you have bought that were the version 1's of their platform that you were 100% happy with.

    If you truly wanted everything on your wishlist to be available for the Pre's launch, we'd be waiting well into 2010 for launch. Most of us are happy having the phone now and waiting for constant updates. I'm sorry you aren't. You clearly don't have what it takes to be an early adopter. If you want robust features that every other mature phone OS has, then you need to get an older phone OS.

    You can love your Pre all you want, but to think it's not lacking a lot is just closing your eyes to the truth.
    I can admit it's lacking and love it at the same time. I understand what it means to be an early adopter. I am not a person who's entire life crumbles if my phone is missing a feature, for now. People like that should not buy 1.0 versions of ANYTING.

    And that's a fanboy response, too. There's a whole lot of optimism around here, but no one knows for sure what Palm's thoughts are. There's a very real possibility Palm thinks these features aren't all that important, and we'll never see them. Or, if Palm does want to add them, there's no indication of how soon that will happen.
    Right. The company that invented PIM will leave things as they are..... Sure.

    I really, really wanted to like the Pre. But I'm really glad I didn't buy one on Saturday. I need a device that's supports me today, not in 6 months or a year, when Palm finally (maybe) gets around to adding the features that I have today on my decades-old-technology P-OS phone.
    You really should probably wait a couple years for WebOS. 6 months you'll still be unhappy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noah2383 View Post
    The time discrepancy is from when you received the text and when it was sent. The actual message was sent at 4:05 but wasn't received until 5:05 on your phone.
    no, this happens as I am receiving them, from the person sitting next to me in the same time zone...
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