Copy/Paste....are you kidding me.

plessdude · 06/06/2009, 03:43 PM

So after all the complaining about the lack of Copy/Paste on the iPhone we finally have the Pre which has this feature. Yes!!!!!.....except it is a complete waste of time on the Pre.

Ummm...so what is the point of this exactly. The Pre can only copy editable text. So if you find something on the web you want to copy....doesn't work. Want to copy a phone number someone texts you....doesn't work. What about and email? Sure you can copy info from an email after you hit reply, then copy and paste that info, then hit menu and finally cancel the message. So why would you need copy and paste then if it can't do the three most common Copy/Paste tasks you would want on a phone. It makes no sense.

DogEars · 06/06/2009, 03:44 PM

Relax.

You just need to take the rabid Apple base's approach..."just give them a little more time".

I agree with you on the limitations, but I think this is something that will be remedied in the near future.

jacked · 06/06/2009, 03:46 PM

I couldn't believe this myself. I have to believe this is on the top of Palm's update list. It has to be, right??? That will be reason enough for many people to opt for the new iPhone. I don't understand why all these mobile device manufacturers underestimate the high value placed on copy paste - especially for business users.

plessdude · 06/06/2009, 03:50 PM

Great..so it will be 2 years before you can actually use Copy/Paste. Tack on another year or two based on Palm's previous time tables to fix stuff. I know this is 1.0 and for a 1.0 product it is phenomenal. I just question the logic of touting Copy/Paste as a feature when it has such limited use.

I agree jacked...for a business user this is a big letdown.

markdb77 · 06/06/2009, 04:04 PM

One of many reasons I did not purchase today...

This thing isn't ready for me yet.

dutchtrumpet · 06/06/2009, 04:05 PM

I'm a little bummed too. Been running the iphone 3.0 beta and really got spoiled by that implementation.

The Phone Diva · 06/06/2009, 04:20 PM

They really did take a bit too many pages from iPhone's book if you ask me.

jacked · 06/06/2009, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dutchtrumpet

I'm a little bummed too. Been running the iphone 3.0 beta and really got spoiled by that implementation.

Reeeally?? I am super curious to know what that's like. Did you pick up a Pre to compare?

JimmieGeddes · 06/06/2009, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dutchtrumpet

I'm a little bummed too. Been running the iphone 3.0 beta and really got spoiled by that implementation.

Me too.

My iPhone 3g is running 3.0, it does copy and paste well. My Pre will hopefully get a real copy/paste function soon.

pablo7 · 06/06/2009, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markdb77

One of many reasons I did not purchase today...

This thing isn't ready for me yet.

That makes 2 of us.....

jkade · 04:51 PM

Uh, I got spoiled by the *Centro's* implementation of c'n'p. (And a lot of other things that I'm only realizing now.) I really like this phone, but it is just not ready yet for serious smartphone users.

Duvi · 06/06/2009, 04:29 PM

I'm glad I came to this website, was trying to copy my Router password for the longest that I had sent myself in a text. It is a downer especially when using my iPhone on 3.0 and realizing how much I like Copy and Paste.

Great device, but not going to replace my iPhone.

plessdude · 06/06/2009, 04:41 PM

Yeah you know what...this is NOT going to replace my iPhone. In two years this will be able to compete with the iPhone today. I give Palm credit. For a company near death to put out a phone this good is an amazing feat. The problem is though that they have an incredible uphill battle to unseat Apple and RIM for advanced smartphone users. Palm is now the best of the second tier smartphones.

Gameboy70 · 06/06/2009, 04:47 PM

Palm shouldn't have emphasized C&P as a feature if it's limited to editable text fields. On a desktop, the amount of document editing that gets done makes clipboard functionality especially useful. On a mobile device, not being able to copy text from a web page into a memo or email really defeats the purpose of C&P.

Palm probably cut more than a few corners to get the Pre out the door before the end of their stated launch window, and they'll probably beef up C&P sooner than later, but it its current state, it's virtually useless.

searchable · 06/07/2009, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DogEars

Relax.

You just need to take the rabid Apple base's approach..."just give them a little more time".

I agree with you on the limitations, but I think this is something that will be remedied in the near future.

That's pretty much what I have been reading about so many functions in the WebOs it is shocking

Quote:

Originally Posted by plessdude

So after all the complaining about the lack of Copy/Paste on the iPhone we finally have the Pre which has this feature. Yes!!!!!.....except it is a complete waste of time on the Pre.

Ummm...so what is the point of this exactly. The Pre can only copy editable text. So if you find something on the web you want to copy....doesn't work. Want to copy a phone number someone texts you....doesn't work. What about and email? Sure you can copy info from an email after you hit reply, then copy and paste that info, then hit menu and finally cancel the message. So why would you need copy and paste then if it can't do the three most common Copy/Paste tasks you would want on a phone. It makes no sense.

WOW, thank you for posting this. I wouldnt have ever seen this lack of functionality otherwise.

Geesh, lots of "Gotcha's" with WebOs right now

scuba_steve · 06/07/2009, 04:08 PM

I love my Pre, but I will say that you are correct - the cut and paste sucks. In fact, that is just one of *many* things that my Treo could do that my Pre can't. Frankly, I am shocked that so many useful aspects of the PalmOS were left out. I could list a couple of dozen of other things that I have noticed...and solving them with Palm's HTML/CSS/JS-based SDK looks like an almost insurmountable challenge...at least to me.

This C&P thing hit me yesterday...and it sucked. That said, there are many things that do just rock. Perhaps the best example for me is the google calendar. My family has been using a shared one for some time and the fact that one of us throws something on it on our Pre and the other two see it on their Pre's is just flat out awesome.

That said, I want my Treo functionality back!

haydur · 06/07/2009, 04:13 PM

Are you kidding me?

dutchtrumpet · 06/07/2009, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacked

Reeeally?? I am super curious to know what that's like. Did you pick up a Pre to compare?

Yes, I did buy a pre.

spectre686 · 06/07/2009, 04:33 PM

Yeah I have to say I love my pre but the fact. They were all like we have copy and paste haha look how much bette we are then it turns outit is so gimped it pretty much doesn't even count as c&p...the lack of true c&p is one of my biggest peeves.

Oo Batman oO · 06/07/2009, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plessdude

So after all the complaining about the lack of Copy/Paste on the iPhone we finally have the Pre which has this feature. Yes!!!!!.....except it is a complete waste of time on the Pre.

Ummm...so what is the point of this exactly. The Pre can only copy editable text. So if you find something on the web you want to copy....doesn't work. Want to copy a phone number someone texts you....doesn't work. What about and email? Sure you can copy info from an email after you hit reply, then copy and paste that info, then hit menu and finally cancel the message. So why would you need copy and paste then if it can't do the three most common Copy/Paste tasks you would want on a phone. It makes no sense.

I found that amusing myself. Now apple is going to retaliate witht hat. They better fix that before that happens. I mean Apple makes better commercials than windows. If i didn't know anybetter, I would by a mac based on those commercials.

06/06/2009, 03:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
plessdude Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 69 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post	Copy/Paste....are you kidding me. So after all the complaining about the lack of Copy/Paste on the iPhone we finally have the Pre which has this feature. Yes!!!!!.....except it is a complete waste of time on the Pre. Ummm...so what is the point of this exactly. The Pre can only copy editable text. So if you find something on the web you want to copy....doesn't work. Want to copy a phone number someone texts you....doesn't work. What about and email? Sure you can copy info from an email after you hit reply, then copy and paste that info, then hit menu and finally cancel the message. So why would you need copy and paste then if it can't do the three most common Copy/Paste tasks you would want on a phone. It makes no sense.
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06/06/2009, 03:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
DogEars Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 45 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 5 Posts	Relax. You just need to take the rabid Apple base's approach..."just give them a little more time". I agree with you on the limitations, but I think this is something that will be remedied in the near future.
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jacked Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 35 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	I couldn't believe this myself. I have to believe this is on the top of Palm's update list. It has to be, right??? That will be reason enough for many people to opt for the new iPhone. I don't understand why all these mobile device manufacturers underestimate the high value placed on copy paste - especially for business users.
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plessdude Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 69 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post	Great..so it will be 2 years before you can actually use Copy/Paste. Tack on another year or two based on Palm's previous time tables to fix stuff. I know this is 1.0 and for a 1.0 product it is phenomenal. I just question the logic of touting Copy/Paste as a feature when it has such limited use. I agree jacked...for a business user this is a big letdown.
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dutchtrumpet Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: dallas Posts: 5,588 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 20 Thanked 18 Times in 11 Posts	I'm a little bummed too. Been running the iphone 3.0 beta and really got spoiled by that implementation. __________________ Holland Photo Studio
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The Phone Diva Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: No longer a member here but very unhappy at HP! Thanks for ruining your platform! Posts: 8,066 Likes Received: 1 Thanks: 137 Thanked 305 Times in 243 Posts	They really did take a bit too many pages from iPhone's book if you ask me. __________________ HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!! And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
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jkade Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Uh, I got spoiled by the Centro's implementation of c'n'p. (And a lot of other things that I'm only realizing now.) I really like this phone, but it is just not ready yet for serious smartphone users. Last edited by jkade; 06/06/2009 at 04:51 PM.
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Duvi Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 54 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I'm glad I came to this website, was trying to copy my Router password for the longest that I had sent myself in a text. It is a downer especially when using my iPhone on 3.0 and realizing how much I like Copy and Paste. Great device, but not going to replace my iPhone.
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06/06/2009, 04:41 PM	#13 (permalink)
plessdude Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 69 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post	Yeah you know what...this is NOT going to replace my iPhone. In two years this will be able to compete with the iPhone today. I give Palm credit. For a company near death to put out a phone this good is an amazing feat. The problem is though that they have an incredible uphill battle to unseat Apple and RIM for advanced smartphone users. Palm is now the best of the second tier smartphones.
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Gameboy70 Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Los Angeles, Ca. Posts: 1,154 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 10 Thanked 21 Times in 13 Posts	Palm shouldn't have emphasized C&P as a feature if it's limited to editable text fields. On a desktop, the amount of document editing that gets done makes clipboard functionality especially useful. On a mobile device, not being able to copy text from a web page into a memo or email really defeats the purpose of C&P. Palm probably cut more than a few corners to get the Pre out the door before the end of their stated launch window, and they'll probably beef up C&P sooner than later, but it its current state, it's virtually useless.
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scuba_steve Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 635 Likes Received: 19 Thanks: 63 Thanked 212 Times in 110 Posts	I love my Pre, but I will say that you are correct - the cut and paste sucks. In fact, that is just one of many things that my Treo could do that my Pre can't. Frankly, I am shocked that so many useful aspects of the PalmOS were left out. I could list a couple of dozen of other things that I have noticed...and solving them with Palm's HTML/CSS/JS-based SDK looks like an almost insurmountable challenge...at least to me. This C&P thing hit me yesterday...and it sucked. That said, there are many things that do just rock. Perhaps the best example for me is the google calendar. My family has been using a shared one for some time and the fact that one of us throws something on it on our Pre and the other two see it on their Pre's is just flat out awesome. That said, I want my Treo functionality back! __________________ IIIx -> Tungsten T -> Treo 650 -> Treo 700p -> Launch day Pre
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haydur Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 452 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 10 Thanked 188 Times in 43 Posts	Are you kidding me?
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spectre686 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 257 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 33 Thanked 42 Times in 33 Posts	Yeah I have to say I love my pre but the fact. They were all like we have copy and paste haha look how much bette we are then it turns outit is so gimped it pretty much doesn't even count as c&p...the lack of true c&p is one of my biggest peeves.
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