Walt Mossberg's WSJ.com Pre Review is up!

Gekko · 06/03/2009, 08:13 PM

enjoy!

Palm's New Pre Takes On iPhone - WSJ.com

hbg · 06/03/2009, 08:13 PM

The Mossberg review of the Pre is here:

Palm's New Pre Takes On iPhone - WSJ.com

Keegsta · 06/03/2009, 08:14 PM

Wow! Thanks a lot for the heads up!

hbg · 06/03/2009, 08:20 PM

Heh Keegsta, my post beat Gekko's by 1 minute!

hbg · 06/03/2009, 08:21 PM

I would definitely say the review is very mixed. Poor battery life, crashes, etc.

bubbatex · 06/03/2009, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gekko

enjoy!

Palm's New Pre Takes On iPhone - WSJ.com

Damn Gekko, you got a 24/7 Pre news feed going? Thanks.

Gekko · 06/03/2009, 08:22 PM

sheesh. that was like watching a hostage video. was Big Moss drugged?

http://online.wsj.com/video/mossberg...089CE0308.html

slbailey1 · 06/03/2009, 08:24 PM

The only downside he had was the limited number of applications in the Apps Catalog!!!

ronbo2000 · 06/03/2009, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hbg

Heh Keegsta, my post beat Gekko's by 1 minute!

Actually Gekko's was ahead by a millisecond.

FesterTreo · 06/03/2009, 08:26 PM

Walt has a serious issue about Apps.. Pretty sad he doesnt even mention that you can run all of the legacy palm apps. Plus regarding battery life I wonder if he knew about the Google and AOL bug that was stated in another article I posted.

mobileman · 06/03/2009, 08:27 PM

no facebook app? I thought this was confirmed.

bubbatex · 06/03/2009, 08:29 PM

Wow, another nice, and IMO fair, review. Almost glowing for a guy who has loved the iPhone for the past 2 years. I guess Walt is "back" just like Palm!

gabbott · 06/03/2009, 08:30 PM

All of his negatives other than battery life revolve around software issues which in time can be remedied.

PilotToTreo · 06/03/2009, 08:33 PM

Mossberg's review is out:

I can't post the link because of the arcane forum reviews. It is on the Wall Street Journal site and will be in tomorrow's paper.

samkim · 06/03/2009, 08:36 PM

Quote:

In fact, during my testing, one of my downloads from the App Catalog caused my Pre to crash disastrously -- all my email, contacts and other data were wiped out, and the phone was unable to connect to the Sprint network or Wi-Fi. Palm conceded the catastrophe was due to problems it still has getting the App Catalog to work with the phone's internal memory, and explained that this is one reason it hasn't widely distributed the developer tools.

Uh oh.

Gekko · 06/03/2009, 08:42 PM

But the Pre has a few other important downsides. Battery life between charges is relatively weak. While it's in line with competitors with a claimed five hours of talk time, and matches the iPhone's claimed five hours of Web surfing time, it offers only half the iPhone's 24 hours of continuous music playback and claims just five hours of video playback, versus seven for the iPhone.

In my testing, the Pre mostly made it through the day without running out of juice. But on at least one day, it died in midafternoon, even though I was using Wi-Fi most of that day and not the power-hungry cellphone network. Unlike the iPhone, the Pre does include a removable battery. Extras cost about $50.

i think Moss and Pogue underestimated their usage. and of course using WIFI all day is going to suck the battery dry - no surprise there.

Gekko · 06/03/2009, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hbg

Heh Keegsta, my post beat Gekko's by 1 minute!

we share the glory.

ronlongo · 06/03/2009, 08:43 PM

Wow thanks for the links! I really think that's a great, fair, review.

Beanis · 06/03/2009, 08:44 PM

Totally blown away. I was expecting Moss to be the most negative of them all. Very pleasantly surprised. This is the first review so far that has actual legitimate gripes, rather than half baked iphone ****** gripes.

miles4000 · 06/03/2009, 08:59 PM

Pretty fair review except for comparing the App Store on day one of a new product\OS to the others. How many apps did the iPhone or BB have on day one? Plus he didnt mention the option of using "classic" for old Palm OS apps.

06/03/2009, 08:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
Gekko Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: USA Posts: 2,007 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 304 Times in 165 Posts	Walt Mossberg's WSJ.com Pre Review is up! enjoy! Palm's New Pre Takes On iPhone - WSJ.com
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hbg Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 221 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 10 Thanked 15 Times in 12 Posts	Mossberg Review of Pre Available The Mossberg review of the Pre is here: Palm's New Pre Takes On iPhone - WSJ.com
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Keegsta Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New Mexico Posts: 206 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 39 Thanked 18 Times in 16 Posts	Wow! Thanks a lot for the heads up!
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06/03/2009, 08:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
hbg Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 221 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 10 Thanked 15 Times in 12 Posts	Heh Keegsta, my post beat Gekko's by 1 minute!
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06/03/2009, 08:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
hbg Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 221 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 10 Thanked 15 Times in 12 Posts	I would definitely say the review is very mixed. Poor battery life, crashes, etc.
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06/03/2009, 08:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
Gekko Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: USA Posts: 2,007 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 304 Times in 165 Posts	sheesh. that was like watching a hostage video. was Big Moss drugged? http://online.wsj.com/video/mossberg...089CE0308.html
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slbailey1 Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 501 Likes Received: 20 Thanks: 323 Thanked 33 Times in 31 Posts	The only downside he had was the limited number of applications in the Apps Catalog!!!
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FesterTreo Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 321 Likes Received: 15 Thanks: 4 Thanked 45 Times in 28 Posts	Walt has a serious issue about Apps.. Pretty sad he doesnt even mention that you can run all of the legacy palm apps. Plus regarding battery life I wonder if he knew about the Google and AOL bug that was stated in another article I posted.
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mobileman Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,555 Likes Received: 31 Thanks: 8 Thanked 150 Times in 90 Posts	no facebook app? I thought this was confirmed.
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06/03/2009, 08:29 PM	#12 (permalink)
bubbatex Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,144 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 82 Thanked 60 Times in 41 Posts	Wow, another nice, and IMO fair, review. Almost glowing for a guy who has loved the iPhone for the past 2 years. I guess Walt is "back" just like Palm! __________________ It's not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change” - Darwin
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06/03/2009, 08:30 PM	#13 (permalink)
gabbott Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 986 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 72 Thanked 124 Times in 86 Posts	All of his negatives other than battery life revolve around software issues which in time can be remedied.
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06/03/2009, 08:33 PM	#14 (permalink)
PilotToTreo Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 16 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Mossberg on the Pre!! - Overall Positive Mossberg's review is out: I can't post the link because of the arcane forum reviews. It is on the Wall Street Journal site and will be in tomorrow's paper.
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06/03/2009, 08:42 PM	#16 (permalink)
Gekko Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: USA Posts: 2,007 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 304 Times in 165 Posts	But the Pre has a few other important downsides. Battery life between charges is relatively weak. While it's in line with competitors with a claimed five hours of talk time, and matches the iPhone's claimed five hours of Web surfing time, it offers only half the iPhone's 24 hours of continuous music playback and claims just five hours of video playback, versus seven for the iPhone. In my testing, the Pre mostly made it through the day without running out of juice. But on at least one day, it died in midafternoon, even though I was using Wi-Fi most of that day and not the power-hungry cellphone network. Unlike the iPhone, the Pre does include a removable battery. Extras cost about $50. i think Moss and Pogue underestimated their usage. and of course using WIFI all day is going to suck the battery dry - no surprise there.
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06/03/2009, 08:43 PM	#18 (permalink)
ronlongo Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Providence, RI Posts: 1,201 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 515 Thanked 284 Times in 141 Posts	Wow thanks for the links! I really think that's a great, fair, review.
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06/03/2009, 08:44 PM	#19 (permalink)
Beanis Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,636 Likes Received: 40 Thanks: 16 Thanked 355 Times in 176 Posts	Totally blown away. I was expecting Moss to be the most negative of them all. Very pleasantly surprised. This is the first review so far that has actual legitimate gripes, rather than half baked iphone ****** gripes.
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06/03/2009, 08:59 PM	#20 (permalink)
miles4000 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,036 Likes Received: 9 Thanks: 14 Thanked 50 Times in 34 Posts	Pretty fair review except for comparing the App Store on day one of a new product\OS to the others. How many apps did the iPhone or BB have on day one? Plus he didnt mention the option of using "classic" for old Palm OS apps.
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