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    Just visited my local Sprint (corporate store). It's a suburban store 8 miles outside of a medium sized city in the Northeast between Philadelphia and Washington D.C.

    I talked to the head Tech Specialist (NOT a salesman) who has helped us for years (I have teens - a daughter and a son - very tough on cell phones!). This is the guy who went out to his car and dug an old charger out of his trunk when the dog chewed my daughters adapter cord.

    I asked him about how tough it would be to get a Pre on Saturday and he said, "I don't know, but we have 35 of 'em sitting in the back". I didn't ask him to show me because I've know this guy for several years and he's a tech geek -- he has no incentive to blow smoke.

    Since our little corporate store has 35, if I were a bettin' man, I'd guess Sprint is thinking of doing at least a little bit of business on Saturday, despite the scarcity hype. No waiting list or other smoke and mirrors here -- just first come, first served. I talked to a salesman and told him that I plan to go home with three units on Saturday, he said no worries, gave me his card and said to just get here early.

    I'm wondering if anyone else has or will ask the tech guys and gals at their stores to see how many boxes are cluttering up the back... Nothing like some good old fashioned "channel checks" to measure the hype!
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    I tend to agree with you … All the hype about not having enough when they know this is a make or break situation is bull … I live in Hollywood and it is common practice for a club to have a line forming ALL night with at least 50-100 people even though there is practically no one in the place … When people see the line they assume that’s the “ Place To Be “ so it creates a buzz … And that’s what’s going on now … a buzz … The fact that not one person has concrete confirmation on anything tells me that … Every store has something different to say whether its Corporate, Non Corporate, Independent, Partner, whatever … I have heard everything .
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    I hope my store has plenty..
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    Here's the thing, if there will be 400,000 Pre phones on hand for launch as rumored, and Sprint has 1500 locations, then you're looking at ~250 phones per store (less those allocated for Best Buy, Radioshack, and other distribution channels).
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    Between DC and Philly sounds like Bmore to me. My sprint store right outside of BMore said they didn't know if they were selling them until that morning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derek Kessler View Post
    Here's the thing, if there will be 400,000 Pre phones on hand for launch as rumored, and Sprint has 1500 locations, then you're looking at ~250 phones per store (less those allocated for Best Buy, Radioshack, and other distribution channels).
    The latest rumors actually have it at under 200,000 total.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clipcarl View Post
    The latest rumors actually have it at under 200,000 total.
    Which would still be ~100 per store, and at those numbers I'd be shocked if they sold out. Of course, Sprint could be holding back on us to create the ilusion of demand...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derek Kessler View Post
    Sprint could be holding back on us to create the ilusion of demand...
    Exactly. Marketing 101
    Things are much more desirable when they are in short supply.
    I'm going down to my local Sprint store at 9am on Saturday. I'm confident I'll be walking out with a Pre a short time later.
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    35 doesn't give me any great confidence! if he said 135 i'd feel better. what did you expect him to say, they had 5 in the back??? i mean 35 seems kind of light to me.
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    they must be basing demand off their success with the samsung instinct. I'm still waiting to see #'s on unit sales for that iPhone killer....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gekko View Post
    35 doesn't give me any great confidence! if he said 135 i'd feel better. what did you expect him to say, they had 5 in the back??? i mean 35 seems kind of light to me.
    right now, i'd feel better about 35.
    my sprint store claimed they would have very few, and not to get my hopes up.
    and according to the leaked best buy sheets, the san francisco location will only have 13.
    groan.
    this is torture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gekko View Post
    35 doesn't give me any great confidence! if he said 135 i'd feel better. what did you expect him to say, they had 5 in the back??? i mean 35 seems kind of light to me.
    A very popular thread showed another forum's post with quantities on order for Best Buy outlets in several states. They showed 28 as the max for any store.

    Also, there have been posts about Radio Shack stores getting two (mine is getting "0").

    So having a small-ish suburban Sprint Corp. store with 35 seemed like a fairly decent number; big city stores are bound to have many multiples of that.
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    I think it's a myth, because when I called my closest corporate Sprint store, he said he's getting enough to last through Saturday, soooo I'm guessing whoever wants one, will be able to get one very soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gekko View Post
    35 doesn't give me any great confidence! if he said 135 i'd feel better. what did you expect him to say, they had 5 in the back??? i mean 35 seems kind of light to me.
    I tend to agree. That's not really very many. If there is a line outside when the store opens. I would expect that number to go fast.
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    Honestly, the numbers I'm hearing in various threads, while higher than I was fearing a week or so ago, do not lead me to believe that talk of shortages has been hype. These numbers are not that great. I'm willing to bet that Palm and Sprint decided they had better let it be known, somewhat subtly, that there may be shortages because of production problems. Since then they've been doing whatever they can to get every last Pre they could out to the stores. This is supported by the fact that Stores are getting deliveries every day. More typically they'll get deliveries weekly. However, the daily deliveries are probably quite small. Essentially, supplies of the phone are being delivered to stores as quickly as they trickle out.

    In fact I wouldn't be surprised if this is why many store are now opening at normal hours on Saturday (as late as 10). This way they can get their fedex delivery of 2 - 3 additional Pre phones for the purpose of maximizing their suppy when they do open doors.
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    I just think that if they have sufficient supply of Pres they would be all out on advertising.
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    It's simple economics. Scarcity breeds value. Done.

    They'll probably have a lot more than we suspect. Sadly, I'm out of the country 10 AM that day.
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    Look, no one really knows what the demand will be. What we do know is the number available on June 6 is a lot lower than people wanted, at least the number that people wanted after seeing some of the consumer reaction to it.

    We know this is true because Sprint is paying to have each day's production from factories in China shipped by air to stores nationwide. If there was reall no shortage expected, they would not be doing that as it adds a fair amount of cost.

    I believe the shortage is the result of incompetence and production issues rather than a deliberate attempt to hype sales. The latter may be a remedial action, but it wasn't the goal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesm View Post

    I believe the shortage is the result of incompetence and production issues rather than a deliberate attempt to hype sales. The latter may be a remedial action, but it wasn't the goal.
    It's funny how our memories fade in such a short time! The Pre launch weekend estimates are for 200,00 - 400,000 units (as stated above in other posts), and that is viewed as potential "incompetence".

    Apple sold 270,000 iPhones in their June 2007 launch weekend and were hailed as heroes. Double standard? Selective memory?
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    People talking about shortages = free press for Sprint/Palm. I think there will be plenty.... It took them long enough to release the damned thing.
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