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    #41  
    Quote Originally Posted by Aridon View Post


    1. Releasing with 8gb of memory


    ****Have a 16 gb iPHone, wish I hadn't spent the money and bought the 8 GB.....It really depends on how you use the phone.....there are MANY people that don't even need 8 GB of storage*****

    Palm Fail

    2. Regular keyboard

    ****There WILL be a virtual keyboard, I know this for a fact. (3rd party)***

    Palm Fail

    3. SDK Information.

    ***Give palm some time maybe? Selected developers have better access to the SDK already.***

    Palm Fails.


    4. Visual Voice mail.

    ****I do use visual voicemail on my iphone, but its not the best thing since sliced bread, and I'm sure there will be a solution for it soon enough, but if it never happens, I won't really care.****

    Palm Fail


    5. Screen.

    ***Really? seriously? Do you think consumers are going to care about glass vs plastic vs OLED? If it looks good thats what matters. (I think all will look good, and one isn't going to stand out above the rest) Jeez....***

    Palm semi-Fail


    6. Network -

    ****You gotta be kidding on this one.....at least with the iPhone 3g....I drop calls like its going out of style! When I was on sprint about a year ago I would hardly ever drop calls. Oh and btw, I'm in ATLANTA, GA, you know, Cingulars old HQ.....coverage here should be tops, no? It's NOT. 3G to E to GPRS to 3G to E to nothing....yeah great thats something I can really count on ATT!***

    Wash


    7. Syncing and Cloud.

    ***The cloud is where it's at.....if you can code a sync program then you should already know this fact....I get my contacts from Exchange so I don't really care about syncing....and ya know what, automatic sync of contacts is BETTER than having to plug the thing in to sync. Think about it....your phone has to be replaced, you aren't by your computer, oh wait, there are all your contacts, awesome, automatic sync of everything over the internet!****

    Palm Fail
    My response is embedded with the ****'s....he's a fanboy, for sure. I actually HAVE an iPhone and am switching, the iPhone is pretty but not as functional as one would think, unless you like doing 1 thing at a time, ALWAYS, NO exceptions!
  2. #42  
    My boss has broken 2 iPhone screens so far. When I twittered about the rumor that Angelina scratched her screen I received a response from an iPhone user that he had also broken 2 iPhone screens so far and would much rather get a screen protector for a plastic screen. I'm not convinced that is a negative.

    I look forward to Flash early next year, and don't expect Apple to change their license to allow Adobe to develop that until their users clamor for it. After all, they did not want to offer an App store because it is not in their vision to have others impacting their user experience. Allowing Flash would be the opposite of their vision, but so was adding the App store (and they were very clear that would never happen when they released the phone).

    I think Apple may have recently added horizontal entry for email, but did you ever ask why they took so long? It's because you can't type with one hand in a horizontal position and they don't expect anybody to want to input text that way. You can rotate the email to read it, then rotate back to write on the iPhone. What's the problem? Why does Apple need to add horizontal entry? Why does Palm? Yes I realize some apps supported it on Apple, but email is where you do most of your typing and they did not support it in 1 or even in 2.0. I believe the decision to exclude it in 2.0 was deliberate (although that alone does not make it correct).

    I personally find synching directly with Exchange, Google, IMAP, and Facebook to meet my needs, but perhaps you don't synch your desktop with Exchange or any other service. If that is the case, I urge you to look into it as all desktop storage dies and it is far easier to centralize your backups at the Exchange server.

    I agree that the storage seems like a dumb move, but I recall when the Diamond came out HTC mentioned that there are serious advantages to not using a card and I have to agree with that. If you give people two places to store things some users will get confused. Something won't be where the phone expects it at some point, perhaps more importantly. They skimped on the amount of internal storage, but they were probably right not to include a slot (but not for the reasons they suggest). Don't get me wrong, I was disappointed as a power user, but I also realize this is better for regular users. Again, I agree the amount is small and I think they need to address that (and add video, recording, which is likely to be a storage hog in most media libraries).

    Apple will boost their processor by 50-100%, putting it only half the speed of the Pre instead of 3-4 times slower. Apple will improve notifications making them only slightly more annoying than the Pre. Apple will make other improvements and eventually be competitive for more than just storage and app selection. HTC and others will produce some amazing Android phones as well. So what? This phone will be a big leap forward for me. Yes, it will some day be surpassed, maybe even in a few months. That's technology.

    This phone matches my desired form factor and introduces a way of looking at the type of data instead of the source of the data. I'm psyched for it, but it won't be the best phone ever, just the best so far. There is always room for improvement, although with the exception of the storage I see most of your suggestions as minor or even deliberate trade-offs. I do think that Palm realizes their storage will be advertised against them and they will have a version with more storage. I think I remember them specifically answering that question in January, in fact.
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    One more thing, isn't the iPhone 16 bit color? 24 bit color is a big screen advantage.
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    I'm with the OP on storage. Especially now at the price they want out the door, unless you go somewhere other than Sprint. Although the blame may lie more with Sprint on that one.

    But the lack of expansion slot and no option at this time of a higher capacity model is Palm's fault. I agree that that is not a good move against 16GB phones, not only iPhone, Nokia and Samsung also. And there are 8-16GB cards that are available that we can't use on the Pre, but can certainly use on other phones, even some that offer 16GB internal storage.

    I'm also with him about the lack of desktop sync. I don't completely trust over the air syncing and the cloud yet, because of security concerns. And I DON'T use Gmail or Google Calender(seems that's everyone's excuse as to why we should embrace the cloud) for everything, especially business! Google and all their information gathering worries me a bit.

    The other stuff he mentioned, well they're not that big of a deal to me. JMO.
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
  5. #45  
    Quote Originally Posted by hparsons View Post
    I'm curious, what do you folks think the chances are that Palm already has a device in development that does have more storage (or a slot for memory)?

    Might even actually beat the iPhone 3 to market.
    That would be great if that was what the big secret was. I'm still wondering what it is.
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
  6. #46  
    Quote Originally Posted by asforme View Post
    This is a huge Palm Win IMO. Sorry, but the pre doesn't sport a modem for dial-up either. Just like syncing, dial-up was great when it was all we had. High speed internet was rare so data needed to be stored both on the local computer, and on your mobile device, and they needed to sync. Now with the prevalence of broadband data can be stored in one central server that owns the data and allows clients to access. The "cloud" simply refers to dedicated servers. It is time that all devices abandon the flawed idea of keeping data in multiple locations with no authoritative owner and "syncing" them.

    Flame on, palm loyalists. Sorry about your palm desktop, now put your data on a server where it belongs.
    "Now put your data in someone else's hands where they could do whatever they want with it if they felt like it. And also if it gets destroyed somehow, you may have no recourse because you put all your trust in unknown hands and didn't bother to do a local back-up(or couldn't because there was no way) because the "cloud" is so great we don't need anything else."

    Fixed.
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
  7. #47  
    How possible is it that palm has a big secret?
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    oh great, just what we need in here... MORE SPAM.
    Palm History: Palm III>IIIc>CLIÉ NR70v>CLIÉ TG50>Tungsten C>Treo 650>Treo 700p>Centro>Pre!! 6/5/09
    Phone History: Way too long

    Sorry Timmy, SERO does not work with the Pre.
    If you have an iTouch click me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eguy View Post
    oh great, just what we need in here... MORE SPAM.
    no worries.. he's gone now..
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    If you spot any please use the report button so we can delete/ban them..
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  10. #50  
    Regarding storage, it's only a problem because you guys keep comparing the Pre with an Ipod phone. And last i checked, Palm doesn't push media hardly at all. Same as before. Only difference is an amazon mp3 store.

    What they are pushing is the new palm PDA experience with multitasking. Obviously for that experience, they think 8gb is suitable. Sounds to me then they're really going after blackberry type users or WM.

    If they really wanted to compete against the ipod phone, then they'd need to get a desktop media mgmt app, hooked into amazon for video and other media, bigger storage, etc. They'd also need to produce a non phone version as a media player (their own ipod). They aren't doing this though. Palm is what it is..stop crying because its not a fully loaded iPod. Buy an iphone if that is what you want.

    That all said, i've posted before in the past few months that Palm could do more in the media end. It's like running a marathon and stopping with a mile to go (you know..they provide the standard headjack, cool screen, decent speaker, media player, amazon mp3..and then stop). One of Palm's mistakes in the past was not pushing what media capability it had. They didn't tell you what that centro or treo could do, us long time users just knew..not the mainstreamers though. Heck, many were oblivious they could install 3rd party palm apps.

    Someone else mentioned palm will get the tutorials up and running soon. But I'm skeptical of this. All they really have are two videos under Meet the Pre. Joe Blow still doesn't know a Palm can play music or video or equates a palm with an iphone like browser.
    Last edited by cardfan; 05/21/2009 at 06:34 AM.
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    #51  
    Aridon, although you have some valid points, for me these are just minor issues.
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