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Member: bryanharig
at: 11:35 AM 05/31/2009
Originally Posted by jtlapp:
Anyone know if Apple has a patent pending on visual voicemail?

That could be the reason it's not on the Pre, and perhaps why it may never be.

I have patents myself and still I think they're stupid.
Originally Posted by jtlapp:
Now we know why Palm doesn't have visual voicemail yet...

Apple, AT&T settle visual voicemail patent claims

Google, LG settle visual voicemail patent suits with Klausner
No we dont. Sprint is selling a phone with visual voicemail right now with no IP issues. (Instinct)
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Member: jtlapp
at: 12:07 PM 05/31/2009
Originally Posted by bryanharig:
No we dont. Sprint is selling a phone with visual voicemail right now with no IP issues. (Instinct)
Turns out the explanation hasn't changed:

Sprint licenses Visual Voicemail for the Samsung Instinct

Palm/Sprint will need to dish out money to put visual voicemail on the Pre, or else get sued.
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Member: jonathan likes the pre
at: 12:22 PM 05/31/2009
I don't get why Sprint will license for Instinct but not for Pre...there is a actual reason, not just money, in my opinion.
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Member: jtlapp
at: 12:31 PM 05/31/2009
Originally Posted by jonathan likes the pre:
I don't get why Sprint will license for Instinct but not for Pre...there is a actual reason, not just money, in my opinion.
You're probably right. They didn't get to it? They got to something better?

There could have been a complication trying to negotiate a visual voicemail license for more than one network. WebOS is rolling out on at least three by 2010.
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Member: peestandingup
at: 12:42 PM 05/31/2009
Most people under 30 or 40 could care less about voicemail period. I know its still a necessity in some regards, but honestly, its such an old school way to communicate with someone. Plus, there's all the prompts you have to sit through (delete this, hear again, blah blah blah). Yeah, visual VM is better, but its still voicemail. The only person that leaves me regular voicemail is my Mom, cause she's old.

Text & email, baby.
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Member: jhoff80
at: 12:47 PM 05/31/2009
Originally Posted by peestandingup:
Most people under 30 or 40 could care less about voicemail period. I know its still a necessity in some regards, but honestly, its such an old school way to communicate with someone. Plus, there's all the prompts you have to sit through (delete this, hear again, blah blah blah). Yeah, visual VM is better, but its still voicemail. The only person that leaves me regular voicemail is my Mom, cause she's old.

Text & email, baby.
Apparently you never get any phone calls about work-related things then? That's the only time I get any voicemail myself, and while yes, I wish everyone would email instead, I can't force them to.
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Member: jtlapp
at: 01:10 PM 05/31/2009
Originally Posted by peestandingup:
Most people under 30 or 40 could care less about voicemail period. I know its still a necessity in some regards, but honestly, its such an old school way to communicate with someone. Plus, there's all the prompts you have to sit through (delete this, hear again, blah blah blah). Yeah, visual VM is better, but its still voicemail. The only person that leaves me regular voicemail is my Mom, cause she's old.

Text & email, baby.
You're onto something. Only older people and the business crowd care about voice mail. Visual voicemail is a cutesy consumer feature, not a business feature. Twitter and text have superseded voicemail in the cutesy department.

In fact, I hate when people leave me voice mail! Reach me some other way! (My mom is the big hold-up in the family.)
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Member: jonathan likes the pre
at: 02:44 PM 05/31/2009
Voicemail is probably the most annoying version of messaging but that doesn't change the fact that Visual Voicemail is better than regular voicemail. :/
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Member: peestandingup
at: 03:36 PM 05/31/2009
Originally Posted by jhoff80:
Apparently you never get any phone calls about work-related things then? That's the only time I get any voicemail myself, and while yes, I wish everyone would email instead, I can't force them to.
I do occasionally, but my job almost always communicates with employees via email. Its just so much easier & efficient because you can reply back on your own time, have a record of what was said to quickly refer back to & have an archive of, etc. Its instant gratification too because it goes straight to your device & you just open up & read.

And that goes for any text, facebook messages, IM, twitter, etc. I really think we're also gonna see less direct communicating with each other via voice (meaning calling up someone, inviting them out to dinner & things of that nature) because we can do that in so many other ways now.

People have busy lives & they cant always talk, but they can almost always read an email or text message. But I guess we can keep voicemail around for the old fogies who need to get a message to us if we're unavailable.
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Member: Gameboy70
at: 05:31 PM 05/31/2009
Originally Posted by jhoff80:
Apparently you never get any phone calls about work-related things then? That's the only time I get any voicemail myself, and while yes, I wish everyone would email instead, I can't force them to.
I do analytics for an internet firm where the average employee age is about 30. The sales and customer service staff have to deal with phone calls, but other divisions, like HR, IT and Content Management, use IM and email for the most part. As QWERTY phones like Blackberries become the norm, so does SMS and text. Plenty of sites have discussed the death of voicemail: TechCrunch, Lifehacker, Slate, Web Worker Daily, etc.

Voicemail is a US-centric phenomenon. Developing countries that went from erratic deployment of landline services to cell networks have pretty much adopted SMS as their primary mode of communication. Initially, that was because SMS was billed as airtime, and a text message only took a split second to transmit. By the time carriers charged a flat rate per message, the usage pattern was already set. European and Asian markets had integrated GSM networks. SMS adoption in the US was hampered by lack of interoperability between carriers until about 7 years ago, not to mention the fact that the Americans commute by car rather than public transit -- making it less convenient to text. Voicemail never caught on in other parts of the world.

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I don't get why Sprint will license for Instinct but not for Pre...there is a actual reason, not just money, in my opinion.
I suspect that Sprint has another service to roll out for the Pre sometime after the device's launch. They already have SpinVox on board as a partner, though their voicemail transcription is a paid service ($9.99/mo.). Sprint might be trying to give SpinVox the opportunity to market their solution before VVM comes to the Pre.
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Member: rs_shadow0000
at: 11:49 AM 07/31/2009
Honestly, I achievement that this isnt the case for long...if its true! Visual Voice Mail is a abundant affection that shouldnt be larboard out for too long.

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Member: zelet
at: 12:02 PM 07/31/2009
From what I understand it's more about some technical limitation of the back-end system or some such. Some part of it isn't scaling well. It was never a feature I really cared about so I haven't asked.
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Member: 1PTUser
at: 12:12 PM 07/31/2009
Um... Shawdow person... umm... unh...well... umm. Nevermind. I don't know how to even respond...
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Member: edlex
at: 12:21 PM 07/31/2009
Originally Posted by rs_shadow0000:
Honestly, I achievement that this isnt the case for long...if its true! Visual Voice Mail is a abundant affection that shouldnt be larboard out for too long.

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+1....?
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Member: monkeydog
at: 12:29 PM 07/31/2009
Thanks for waking up a 2-month old thread, Shadow man single-poster.
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Member: thechosenfew88
at: 12:34 PM 07/31/2009
Why would Palm be the one to determine whether or not Visual Voicemail will or will not be on the Pre now or in the future? I remember back at the live chat Sprint hosted on Facebook and someone asked them about visual voicemail. Sprint replied saying that it was a great feature everyone loved on the Instinct, and that they are wanting to try and get that over on the Pre.
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Member: Nesta
at: 12:36 PM 07/31/2009
Originally Posted by rs_shadow0000:
Honestly, I achievement that this isnt the case for long...if its true! Visual Voice Mail is a abundant affection that shouldnt be larboard out for too long.

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Maybe it will make more sense it Shantner reads it as a poem. (cue acoustic bass and bongo drum).
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Member: v1rg0_n3rd
at: 12:40 PM 07/31/2009
Based on the tweet by palm posted here it looks like they were replying to an "as of now" question. It doesn't imply the feature will never exist IMO.
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Member: Enlil242
at: 12:49 PM 07/31/2009
I will go out on a limb here and say that Palm *probably* hadn't gotten around to implementing that feature, along with video recording and flash support simply because they were rushing it's release and wanted a *mostly* stable product at launch. It would have been a lot harder to debug WebOS with a whole slew of untested features.
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Member: ipreedinmypants
at: 12:51 PM 07/31/2009
Whether or not visual voicemail comes to the Pre is not dependant on Sprint. They would love to have it on there. It's up to Palm to support through their software.
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