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Originally Posted by The Phone Diva:
Call forwarding ISN'T free on Sprint? Then that may rule out YouMail too.
Even on my prepaid phone, CF is free, geez! Is that really true?
Like I said, from what I understand, conditional call forwarding for busy/no answer is free (or should be if it's set up properly.)Call forwarding ISN'T free on Sprint? Then that may rule out YouMail too.
Even on my prepaid phone, CF is free, geez! Is that really true?
If you have every incoming call to your Sprint phone forwarded to another number, that's when it's not free.
And as for Google Voice, mentioned above, I've got a GV number, but until Palm incorporates GV into the dialer and for SMS, it'd be much more of a pain than it's worth.
Edit: Sorry to say, that I was incorrect, conditional call forwarding costs money as well.
I know I have to pay to have my calls forwarded to my home!
Guess they forgot to include free call forwarding on my SERO plan... Better call retentions and get that fixed!
Seriously, I do have to pay like $.20 a min, and on T-mo it was free. I very rarely use it...
Guess they forgot to include free call forwarding on my SERO plan... Better call retentions and get that fixed!
Seriously, I do have to pay like $.20 a min, and on T-mo it was free. I very rarely use it...
Originally Posted by jbg7474:
Are you speaking from experience or are you just going off of what you have heard? For a statement like this, that would be an important distinction.
Experience. Take that as you wish.Are you speaking from experience or are you just going off of what you have heard? For a statement like this, that would be an important distinction.
If a developer wanted to write an app that connected to a server to retrieve audio files that had been forwarded from a voicemail forwarding service, sure. That will work.
If a developer wanted to interact with the phone or the Sprint network to the level where they could detect voicemail or retrieve them from Sprint, then no. Definitely not in the SDK (as of now).
I don't understand why people think Google Voice would be a hassle. I give out my Google Voice number, if somebody texts the number I receive it on my Sprint phone and can reply. If they call it, I see their number on my caller ID on my Sprint phone and answer on my Sprint phone (during business hours it also rings my desk, saving me minutes). If I get back to my desk while on a call, I press * and it conferences in my other numbers (desk), I answer and hang up without the caller hearing a thing and I save more minutes. If they leave a voice mail, I receive a transcript via SMS on my Sprint phone. Other than that, I use my phone like normal.
I suppose if I really wanted Caller ID to match the number I'm giving out I would have a bit of work (I don't bother with that), but otherwise where's the hassle?
I suppose if I really wanted Caller ID to match the number I'm giving out I would have a bit of work (I don't bother with that), but otherwise where's the hassle?
Originally Posted by nonobeez:
I know I have to pay to have my calls forwarded to my home!
Guess they forgot to include free call forwarding on my SERO plan... Better call retentions and get that fixed!
Seriously, I do have to pay like $.20 a min, and on T-mo it was free. I very rarely use it...
I'm pretty shocked it's 20 cents a minute. AT&T looks a little better now, LOL!I know I have to pay to have my calls forwarded to my home!
Guess they forgot to include free call forwarding on my SERO plan... Better call retentions and get that fixed!
Seriously, I do have to pay like $.20 a min, and on T-mo it was free. I very rarely use it...
This picture is on Palm's site as well. That symbol is clearly the voicemail icon. It just seems like it would be for VVM since it has a 2 on it signify 2 new messages.
EDIT
Here's a somewhat recent shot from engadget dated April 1, 2009. You can see the voicemail icon notification as well.
Originally Posted by krische:
This picture is on Palm's site as well. That symbol is clearly the voicemail icon. It just seems like it would be for VVM since it has a 2 on it signify 2 new messages.
Just because it has a 2 to tell you new messages doesn't mean it's VVM. My Motorola q9c can tell me how many messages, but it definitely does not have visual voicemail.This picture is on Palm's site as well. That symbol is clearly the voicemail icon. It just seems like it would be for VVM since it has a 2 on it signify 2 new messages.
I stand corrected on earlier posts. I checked at a Sprint forum and was told that unconditional call forwarding is also $0.20 per minute. I guess I'm doubly not going to use GV now.
Originally Posted by rhewitt:
I suppose if I really wanted Caller ID to match the number I'm giving out I would have a bit of work (I don't bother with that), but otherwise where's the hassle?
Exactly that. If I call someone from my cellphone number, and someone misses the call, then they're going to call back at my cellphone number. The same for texts. It doesn't matter what number I give out, people are going to reply to the number that they receive things from.I suppose if I really wanted Caller ID to match the number I'm giving out I would have a bit of work (I don't bother with that), but otherwise where's the hassle?
Honestly, I'd be surprised if future versions of Android don't have this functionality built in eventually.
I really like the Visual Voicemail on my Instinct. I'm gonna miss it!
What does call forwarding have to do with Google Voice? I give out my Google Voice number and it rings my Sprint phone (and my work phone during business hours, and any other numbers I choose it to ring on the schedule I want). The only cost is that I don't get Sprint to Sprint, which I more than make up for by answering at my desk during the work week. If I forwarded my calls to Google Voice it would defeat the purpose.
I suppose you could forward your unanswered calls to Google Voice, but as the poster before said:
Like I said, from what I understand, conditional call forwarding for busy/no answer is free (or should be if it's set up properly.)
Unconditional $.20/min would truly defeat the purpose, as you would be unable to ever answer calls. Actually I need to look into the free conditional call forwarding; that actually sounds like a good idea for the older contacts who have my Sprint number.
I suppose you could forward your unanswered calls to Google Voice, but as the poster before said:
Like I said, from what I understand, conditional call forwarding for busy/no answer is free (or should be if it's set up properly.)
Unconditional $.20/min would truly defeat the purpose, as you would be unable to ever answer calls. Actually I need to look into the free conditional call forwarding; that actually sounds like a good idea for the older contacts who have my Sprint number.
Originally Posted by jhoff80:
Exactly that. If I call someone from my cellphone number, and someone misses the call, then they're going to call back at my cellphone number. The same for texts. It doesn't matter what number I give out, people are going to reply to the number that they receive things from.
Honestly, I'd be surprised if future versions of Android don't have this functionality built in eventually.
Okay, so use the free forwarding when busy/no answer and schedule GV to not call your cell phone, only SMS the transcript. Problem solved, cost = 0. You could then ignore calls when at your desk and then answer them when GV rings it and still get Sprint to Sprint calls. This would actually cost less than free, as you get the free Sprint to Sprint and answer at your desk during the week. The only "hassle" would be one call to a CSR to setup the free forwarding on busy/no answer.Exactly that. If I call someone from my cellphone number, and someone misses the call, then they're going to call back at my cellphone number. The same for texts. It doesn't matter what number I give out, people are going to reply to the number that they receive things from.
Honestly, I'd be surprised if future versions of Android don't have this functionality built in eventually.
T-2 weeks before release and nobody can tell us what happens when the Pre phone rings and what happens when you answer or don't answer.
Originally Posted by rhewitt:
This link looks appropriate:
Visual Voicemail Works On Sprint: Callwave*|*Morninpaper
Whoa, that settles that.This link looks appropriate:
Visual Voicemail Works On Sprint: Callwave*|*Morninpaper
Third party apps can do Visual Voicemail with call forwarding then. Crisis averted?
Originally Posted by :
Note to Matt F: You shouldn't be getting charged. You have to make sure the customer service rep understands that you want "No Answer Call Forwarding (No Reply Forwarding)" not simply "Call Forwarding". No Answer Call Forwarding (No Reply Forwarding) is free the other is not. Also have the rep do it for you, there are three things that need to be changed:
It seems is IS possible, but some people get it set up easier than others, with others getting unhelpful reps who just say it's 20 cents over and over.Note to Matt F: You shouldn't be getting charged. You have to make sure the customer service rep understands that you want "No Answer Call Forwarding (No Reply Forwarding)" not simply "Call Forwarding". No Answer Call Forwarding (No Reply Forwarding) is free the other is not. Also have the rep do it for you, there are three things that need to be changed:
I have VVM on my Treo, and if/when I get a Pre I'll have it there, too. Check out Simulscribe:
SimulScribe - Read Your Voicemail
By uploading my contacts to their server I get VVM. And I also get to read a speech to text transcription of my voicemail if I choose, or listen to it.
SimulScribe - Read Your Voicemail
By uploading my contacts to their server I get VVM. And I also get to read a speech to text transcription of my voicemail if I choose, or listen to it.
Originally Posted by UntidyGuy:
T-2 weeks before release and nobody can tell us what happens when the Pre phone rings and what happens when you answer or don't answer.
Pre rings.T-2 weeks before release and nobody can tell us what happens when the Pre phone rings and what happens when you answer or don't answer.
answer: talk
dont answer: get voicemail
happy?
We just want a different kind of voicemail.
Yeah, I thought the same thing, that it was free for the busy/no answer all forwarding, but apparently that used to be free but they now charge for it as well, according to people at SprintGurus who know much better than I do.
3rd party solutions are nice (I use youmail on my Blackberry 8900), but they are no way nearly as good as an integrated solution. Palm is making a mistake here.
Originally Posted by mobileman:
3rd party solutions are nice (I use youmail on my Blackberry 8900), but they are no way nearly as good as an integrated solution. Palm is making a mistake here.
This.3rd party solutions are nice (I use youmail on my Blackberry 8900), but they are no way nearly as good as an integrated solution. Palm is making a mistake here.
This is the entire argument.
You really shouldn't have to jerry-rig a solution on a phone whose entire promise is the conflation of forward thinking and pragmatism.
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