Pre Screen = Plastic

PalmKing · 03/02/2009, 12:59 PM

Original question from @phi (via twitter):
@palm_inc you never answered my question: pre screen, glass or plastic?

Response from @Palm_inc (via twitter):
@phi plastic, with a hard anti-scratch coating

ImmaSlave4U · 03/02/2009, 01:02 PM

I was hoping for glass like the iPhone....but I hope the anti-scratch coating works.

jagowar · 03/02/2009, 01:18 PM

if the antiscratch works well i would actually prefer it to a glass screen.... plastic should be more durable in terms of dropping the pre vs iphone which ive heard numerous stories of cracked screens.

StatCoder · 03/02/2009, 01:24 PM

Yes, don't drop your iPhone without a case. However, the screen takes a lot of abuse from keys and coins that end up in the same pocket or bag, not to mention whatever is on the finger of the person who uses it. The glass always looks good after it's wiped off. Glass is hard to beat.

HChristianS · 03/02/2009, 01:40 PM

Technology behind Palm Pre touchscreen, best in class | Palm WebOS Blog

Renderhaus · 03/02/2009, 02:04 PM

A plastic screen (over glass) also means a lighter device. Glass has class, but if the plastic can be coated such as to resist scratches for the 2-years until I pop for the next device, then bravo.

udratherbme · 03/02/2009, 02:36 PM

yeah... plastic would be much better.... my sister has an iphone and her glass screen popped in the middle of the night while she was sleep...

TurboTiger · 08:54 PM

Centro has a plastic screen w/protective coating. - no scratches on my screen.
I assume the Pre screen will be more advanced.
Good Luck

adjmcloon · 03/02/2009, 07:33 PM

Thanks for the link to that article...very interesting read.

theog · 03/02/2009, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by udratherbme

yeah... plastic would be much better.... my sister has an iphone and her glass screen popped in the middle of the night while she was sleep...

rofl...

Good video... see how this works in real life.. lol

I don't care if made of plastic... long as it works.... lol

aero · 03/03/2009, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboTiger

Centro has a plastic screen w/protective coating. - no scratches on my screen.

Generally I am not too worried about the Pre screen scratching, but I think centro and other treos like 800w are recessed screen and Pre is flush screen. That difference is probably neural for keeping in your pocket, as I do with my 800w, but could mean more screen scratch opportunities in other situations

cardfan · 03/03/2009, 06:34 AM

No clue on this. The iphone's screen is great..doesn't scratch. The only thing that would annoy me is if faulty finger swiping where you have to swipe again or a third time to get the phone to recognize it. The iphone excels here. If the Pre works the same, i won't care.

wongster · 03/03/2009, 06:58 AM

dont matter to me, if plastic makes it lighter thats better for me.. i prob will put a inivisible sheild screen on it, when it comes available anyways..

Renderhaus · 03/03/2009, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wongster

...i prob will put a inivisible sheild screen on it, when it comes available anyways..

Won't something like this greatly reduce touch screen sensitivity? Even if gesture recognition is reduced only 15% or so, I would think that'd make it harder to get full functionality out of the device.

NachoB · 11:23 AM

I have a "film" screen protector on my iPod Touch and it has not affected sensitivity at all.
With the Pre's flush screen and pebble design though I'm apt to think a screen protector would look strange. No place for the rough edge of the protector to "end" to.

fwinst · 03/03/2009, 08:37 AM

Great video....what's a "buddin"? :-P

pilot1000 · 03/03/2009, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fwinst

Great video....what's a "buddin"? :-P

I don't know, but whatever it is, I think it's "pateted".

TurboTiger · 03/03/2009, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aero

Generally I am not too worried about the Pre screen scratching, but I think centro and other treos like 800w are recessed screen and Pre is flush screen. That difference is probably neural for keeping in your pocket, as I do with my 800w, but could mean more screen scratch opportunities in other situations

Agreed.

Good Luck

potter · 03/03/2009, 02:50 PM

There are advantages and disadvantages to both. Cannot speak specifically about the Pre's screen, but from other past Palm devices...

Pro Plastic: Less likely to break.

Con Plastic: After heavy use a plastic digitizer may deform and start to have localized inaccuracies. (In my wife's and my personal experiences, after about 1 year.) Recalibration does not help and if bad enough can put the device into a recalibration loop. Now with the WebOS being finger centric and not stylus centric the Pre will probably not as sensitive to this issue.

Renderhaus · 03/03/2009, 02:57 PM

Speaking of "finger centric" vs. "stylus sentric" screens and programming, will this screen react at all to a stylus?

Will it behave like the thumb pad on a laptop? That pad won't respond at all to interaction by hard objects like fingernails and such.

The only reason I ask is I'm just not confident that there won't be SOME tiny need for a precise touch within some application. Something that one might need a fingernail to click on or select.

I suppose you iPhone users could best answer this - as the usability will likely be very similar. I've never used an iPhone, so I really don't know.

03/02/2009, 12:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
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ImmaSlave4U Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Los Angeles, CA/Eugene, OR Posts: 819 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 18 Thanked 78 Times in 49 Posts	I was hoping for glass like the iPhone....but I hope the anti-scratch coating works. __________________ "Never regret yesterday. Life is in you today, and you make your tomorrow." —L. Ron Hubbard
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jagowar Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 141 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 20 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	if the antiscratch works well i would actually prefer it to a glass screen.... plastic should be more durable in terms of dropping the pre vs iphone which ive heard numerous stories of cracked screens.
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StatCoder Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 97 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 2 Posts	Yes, don't drop your iPhone without a case. However, the screen takes a lot of abuse from keys and coins that end up in the same pocket or bag, not to mention whatever is on the finger of the person who uses it. The glass always looks good after it's wiped off. Glass is hard to beat.
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03/02/2009, 02:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
Renderhaus Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Detroit Posts: 266 Likes Received: 10 Thanks: 8 Thanked 15 Times in 10 Posts	A plastic screen (over glass) also means a lighter device. Glass has class, but if the plastic can be coated such as to resist scratches for the 2-years until I pop for the next device, then bravo. __________________ MJB
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udratherbme Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 296 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 9 Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts	yeah... plastic would be much better.... my sister has an iphone and her glass screen popped in the middle of the night while she was sleep...
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TurboTiger Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,277 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 7 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts	Centro has a plastic screen w/protective coating. - no scratches on my screen. I assume the Pre screen will be more advanced. Good Luck Last edited by TurboTiger; 03/02/2009 at 08:54 PM.
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adjmcloon Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Stinkyville, TX Posts: 415 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 6 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Thanks for the link to that article...very interesting read. __________________ Palm Pilot -> Palm IIIX -> Tungsten T3 -> Treo 700p -> Palm Pre
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03/03/2009, 06:34 AM	#12 (permalink)
cardfan Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 3,614 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 264 Thanked 466 Times in 285 Posts	No clue on this. The iphone's screen is great..doesn't scratch. The only thing that would annoy me is if faulty finger swiping where you have to swipe again or a third time to get the phone to recognize it. The iphone excels here. If the Pre works the same, i won't care.
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03/03/2009, 06:58 AM	#13 (permalink)
wongster Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 41 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	dont matter to me, if plastic makes it lighter thats better for me.. i prob will put a inivisible sheild screen on it, when it comes available anyways..
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03/03/2009, 08:25 AM	#15 (permalink)
NachoB Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 4,945 Likes Received: 3 Thanks: 339 Thanked 988 Times in 715 Posts	I have a "film" screen protector on my iPod Touch and it has not affected sensitivity at all. With the Pre's flush screen and pebble design though I'm apt to think a screen protector would look strange. No place for the rough edge of the protector to "end" to. __________________ If you found my post useful then please sign up for a Dropbox Account, I could use the extra 250mb of storage. HOW TO: Zip/Unzip via Pre/Pixi using Terminal HOW TO: Modify DTMF audio (webOS 1.4.5 or earlier) Palm Pre wallpapers Last edited by NachoB; 03/03/2009 at 11:23 AM.
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fwinst Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 721 Likes Received: 129 Thanks: 134 Thanked 80 Times in 58 Posts	Great video....what's a "buddin"? :-P
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03/03/2009, 02:50 PM	#19 (permalink)
potter Member Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: SW Virginia Posts: 173 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Glass vs. Plastic There are advantages and disadvantages to both. Cannot speak specifically about the Pre's screen, but from other past Palm devices... Pro Plastic: Less likely to break. Con Plastic: After heavy use a plastic digitizer may deform and start to have localized inaccuracies. (In my wife's and my personal experiences, after about 1 year.) Recalibration does not help and if bad enough can put the device into a recalibration loop. Now with the WebOS being finger centric and not stylus centric the Pre will probably not as sensitive to this issue.
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03/03/2009, 02:57 PM	#20 (permalink)
Renderhaus Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Detroit Posts: 266 Likes Received: 10 Thanks: 8 Thanked 15 Times in 10 Posts	Speaking of "finger centric" vs. "stylus sentric" screens and programming, will this screen react at all to a stylus? Will it behave like the thumb pad on a laptop? That pad won't respond at all to interaction by hard objects like fingernails and such. The only reason I ask is I'm just not confident that there won't be SOME tiny need for a precise touch within some application. Something that one might need a fingernail to click on or select. I suppose you iPhone users could best answer this - as the usability will likely be very similar. I've never used an iPhone, so I really don't know. __________________ MJB
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