...that account for less than 12 percent of a shrinking market.
Originally Posted by crogs571
What does that have to do with you and your reliance on removable media?!
And if I'm a niche user, then why did the 1st gen iphone have a 16gb capacity if it was only for a few niche users and Apple is known for being stingy so they can have people buy early and upgrade often? Why are they bothering to come out with a 32gb version? Sounds like a pretty big niche to me.
Because they also have to enter at a price point not significantly above Apple's cheapest phone offering. I mean, really, sir...
So why would a company who's been consistently late to the game, come out with a ground breaking, game changing, company saving device that only has the iphone's minimum storage capability?
Oh yeah...lessee here. One one hand, we have the Omnia, an okay WM 6.1 handset that Verizon barely cares about. On the other, we have the N97, which sells for the equivalent of $700USD+ without subsidies, and would likely be about $399 on any US carrier, and thus DOA for Palm if it was their only shot at re-establishing their brand versus the $199 iPhone.
Diva has even pointed out phones from other companies with larger gig storage and a card slot. So you make it seem like nobody else is offering what many of us are asking for.
Almost forgot about the wonderful Blackberry Storm with 1GB onboard and an 8GB card in box....boy, that one's a winner, too!
If only Palm would follow the lead of those sterling examples...Man. If you ran the company, this discussion would be moot as Palm would be out of business already.
What a doof. My digital music collection is ripped at a higher quality, and tops 55GB. What I don't have a "need" for is having all of it at all times on my phone. Or my person at all, for that matter. Like a whole bunch of people, I work at a computer and have one at home. I'd much prefer to use them to play my media because it doesn't tax my phone, and I can then use it for browsing, calls, and messaging without interrupting the music and without killing my charge. If I need to have music when I am away from home or the office, I can play music on my phone (or the Pre when I get it) just dandy, and I do not need 55GB to choose from at those times on my phone. If you do, DON'T BUY THIS DEVICE. In fact, don't buy an iPhone either because even the 16GB fills up quickly once you start adding apps (especially games) and movies. Go drop $700 on an N97 or keep buying microSD cards to stick into antiquated Garnet OS or Windows Mobile devices.
And my point about the size of the music collection is some people's entire collection is ripped at crap 128kb quality because they have tin for ears and could fit their entire collection on a 5yr old flash drive. Which could be the case with someone like mach and yourself who apparently don't have the need for more memory.
How is one word of the above any less true for 16GB? It too would be "a fraction" of your collection if you have "tens" of gigs of music. Whether you have 16GB or 8GB, you're still "throwing a small chunk" of your music on it. For some people 16GB, isn't enough. For some, 32GB isn't enough. For some, 160GB isn't enough. It doesn't behoove Palm to try and second guess where the magical border is because the Pre is not...a media player! My god. Where are the myriad of complaints from people who demand to have 5 megapixels on the camera (actually, far less than the industry consumer camera standard these days) or they're going to whine and take their ball and go home?
Others who have tens of gigs of music would like to buy a 16gb card and throw on a small chunk of it and be done. Not have the entire library on cards that get switched out. Seriously, are you that dense? Not one comment has been made about carrying one's entire collection. That's just a leap you made to try and make a senseless point. Carrying even a fraction of the collection would easily take a major chunk of the 8 gigs.
They have much more of an argument than you, and yet they are somehow mature enough to realize that a convergence device merely supplants a dedicated device in convenience, not utility.
People who commute and travel often should have 1)A laptop because a cellphone - even a smartphone - is useless for total business productivity. 2)A hard drive of no less than 150GB if it is a Vista-equipped machine 3)The ability to buy said movies and TV shows from iTunes to store on the laptop in order to watch on a much bigger and higher resolution screen than any phone.
Others talk about you can fill a days worth of tv shows on so many gigs for people that commute and travel often. Well now you're talking about having to copy files over on a somewhat daily basis to constantly replace content. So by your theory, that is better than having to switch out cards?
No convergence device does EVERYTHING for EVERYONE. No convenience store sells everything a dedicated grocery store does. You cannot have "it all" in one device. Apple does not try. Palm does not try. No company should try if they are interested in remaining solvent.
This site is limited because it represents a subset of a subset of a subset. No scientific organization would accept a "poll" here as indicative of anything but the feelings of the people in that thread. We're not Nielsen families that have been chosen to represent countless other people. If the views on this site were majority views for the public, Palm would still be a market leader already, wouldn't they? (This is Treo Central, innit?).
The poll shows a whopping majority of the people are using at minimum a 4gb card on their current palm phone with it's limited media capabilities. So going up to 8gb on a phone whose media capability far exceeds that of their current phone, is barely doubling their minimum requirement. So interesting how about a 100 responders are niche users and that's just ones that responded, on this limited site.
Why do I have to explain this to you?
Yes, it's hard to believe that physical media is on the decline in these robust times, eh? I hope you buy lots of stock in compact disc manufacturers. I mean, the players are everywhere, the media is cheap, and it's infinitely expandable!!!
And at one point people did math with a slide rule and abacus. your point below is just pointless because I have a hard time believing that a card slot is something that is antiquated and old technology.
What could go wrong?!?!