Funny. I didn't know the Pre was up against the 1st generation iphone. Are you just dense? No one is talking about the built in memory or just built in memory alone. And the whole iPhone comparison is just old and nonsense. It's not like the iPhone is the only phone out there. How many mp3 phones out there have card slots? Safe to say most of them. Think Palm wants to attract them? Maybe they were jones'n to see 16gb cards come down in price so they wouldn't have to carry their mp3 player as much. Or maybe they're swapping out 8gb cards with music and videos. Now how many smartphones have removable storage? Most of them. How many Palm devices have removable storage? Most of them. Why does the latest and greatest phone, pda, palm product not have one? Oh, we couldn't make it fit because it would've highly compromised the design we were going for, and even a quarter of a millimeter increase in any dimension would've made for a horrible user feel in hand. Please. They must assume most users are dumb kool aid drinkers such as yourself.
With the hardware inside the Pre and the great screen why wouldn't you want as much memory as possible if it can rid yourself of carrying a separate media player a lot of the time. I go to the gym, and I'm carrying my Sansa Fuze and my phone. My Sansa has 8gigs of built in memory and 8 gigs in the card slot. It's filled to capacity, and that doesn't account for files, programs and video. I use the Centro once in awhile for music, but I just don't care for the software and having to use an adapter.
And now I'm buying a 16gb Cowon D2 & 16gb card because I need to review videos, edit playlists and use the player for a class. For under $200 I have a 32gb player. If I could throw a 16gb card in the Pre, I'd probably have that functionality and wouldn't need a separate player.
And that's just talking about storage for media. You're not even looking at in the field restores. It's all well and great I can get my PIM info back from the cloud. I'm sure I can even download all the programs I had on there if they came from the app store as I'm sure they'll be smart enough to have all that info saved in the store. Not to mention how much of a PITA it'll be to sit and wait for all those programs to download again, at once. But what about all the files I have. Documents, media? All gone until I get home to a computer. Doesn't do me any good if I have appointments and things to do before I get home.
Palm didn't put a separate 8 gigs of storage on the Pre while the OS is running on a different store of memory so your storage would be intact if you had to start from a clean slate. It's all on the 8gigs. That, combined with the lack of a card slot is just a bonehead move no matter what way you look at it or how little storage you or anyone else actually needs. Especially when they tout the device as not having to be tethered to a computer all the time. Imagine firmware updates (and I'd imagine we'll see a few on this device). You'll most likely have to sit at your computer and reload 8gigs of info back on to your phone. With a card slot, you just pull the card, run the firmware update, reinsert the card, restore and you're on your way.
That being said, will I buy one? Yep. Will I b*tch and moan about those things till the day the next model comes out? yep. Do I care what you think or how little your needs are for this device? Not one bit. That's why the P in PDA stands for personal. Everyone's needs are different, and to say wanting something we can do in other devices (including phones) is outrageous is just narrow minded on your part.
This poll doesn't tell a thing except for the fact that 16gb cards cost too much and that the Centro doesn't lend itself to be a replacement for one's everyday media player due to limitations that won't be there on the Pre.
Originally Posted by machx