Tethering – Phone as Modem – Yes/No - Apps?

deesugar · 01/08/2009, 08:32 PM

Last paragraph here:
http://tinyurl.com/9v9mgp

Also confirms native Palm apps wont run on it.

hova · 01/08/2009, 08:35 PM

They've since updated that story. Read it again.

vga4life · 01/08/2009, 08:37 PM

From the article...

Quote:

t does have the technical capability to be used as a tethered modem for a laptop. (The original story suggested it couldn't based on comments from Sprint that the feature wouldn't be made available).

It is Linux-based, though that is invisible for most developers as the tools to write applications are JavaScript, HTML, and CSS. It won't natively run applications written for the original Palm OS, but Maes said "we anticipate there will be solutions to do so."

The capabilities are there, just not the implementations. Sounds like at least some developers will get access to the lower level systems for more powerful applications. Bonus irony points: maybe Access will port their Garnet VM? http://www.access-company.com/products/gvm/

I doubt Palm will be allowing tethering (either natively or via third-party apps) on Sprint's version, at least. Maybe a premium-priced, unlocked UMTS model?

deesugar · 01/08/2009, 08:43 PM

Quote:

The capabilities are there, just not the implementations. Sounds like at least some developers will get access to the lower level systems for more powerful applications.

Sounding good, Linux programmers get your fingers ready for some hacks, Shadowmite are you listening?

BMIC50 · 01/08/2009, 08:43 PM

It says bluetooth tethering.

dave75 · 01/08/2009, 08:46 PM

From Palm's website

Carrier Sprint
Operating system Palm® webOS™
Network specs 3G EVDO Rev A
Display 3.1-inch touch screen with a vibrant 24-bit color 320x480 resolution HVGA display
Keyboard Physical QWERTY keyboard
Email
2 Microsoft Outlook® email with Microsoft® Direct Push Technology
POP3/IMAP (Yahoo, Gmail, AOL, etc).
Messaging Integrated IM, SMS, and MMS
GPS Built-in GPS
Digital camera 3 megapixel camera with LED flash and extended depth of field
Sensors Ambient light, accelerometer, and proximity
Media formats supported Audio Formats: MP3, AAC, AAC+, AMR, QCELP, WAV
Video Formats: MPEG-4, H.263, H.264
Image Formats: GIF, Animated GIF, JPEG, PNG, BMP
Wireless connectivity Wi-Fi 802.11b/g with WPA, WPA2, 801.1x authentication
Bluetooth® 2.1 + EDR with A2DP stereo Bluetooth support
Memory 8GB of user storage (~7.4GB user available)
USB mass storage support
Phone as laptop modem Bluetooth tethering
Connector MicroUSB connector with USB 2.0 Hi-Speed
Headphone jack 3.5mm stereo
Palm® Touchstone™charging dock Compatible
Dimensions Width: 59.5mm (2.3 inches)
Height: 100.5mm (3.9 inches)
Thickness: 16.95mm (0.67 inches)
Weight 135 grams (4.76 ounces)

Eguy · 01/08/2009, 09:43 PM

Not to mention there will probably be 3rd party apps in the future like PDAnet or USB Modem...

**berdinkerdickle** · 01/08/2009, 09:50 PM

I would think carriers would want a device they carry to have tethering capabilities, because some carriers charge more for tethering - specific tether plans.

Qualme · 02/19/2009, 02:42 PM

Engadget just reported that Sprint has removed data Tethering as a freature.

Palm Pre no longer features data tethering on Sprint website - Engadget

PedroTheGoat · 02/19/2009, 02:46 PM

Hmmmm odd... They might just feel as if the general public didn't need to know that it was a feature. Not too many people tether their phones.

Plus, Sprint is pushing the mobile card stuff.

Syphon · 02/19/2009, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PedroTheGoat

Hmmmm odd... They might just feel as if the general public didn't need to know that it was a feature. Not too many people tether their phones.

Plus, Sprint is pushing the mobile card stuff.

Or maybe they want to charge for the feature. Since their earnings were reported to be low.

Qualme · 02/19/2009, 02:47 PM

Ya it seems that way.

miles4000 · 02/19/2009, 02:50 PM

I put this under nice to have feature, not a deal breaker for me.

Zorro1 · 02/19/2009, 02:56 PM

Well, yeah, I'm with Miles, nice to have because I figured that it would be my backup broadband for my computer if my home service went out, which does happen now and then...and I could still connect via the phone.

Miles, I'm still ticked that the V rep lied to us about broadband on her Centro when we went to Mex. What the heck?

migs · 02/19/2009, 03:17 PM

Hopefully JuneFabrics, makers of PdaNet will get on it and develop an app for webOs to allow tethering. They did it for Palm Os!

reidme · 02/19/2009, 03:19 PM

I think Engadget is reading too much into this. From the pictures it looks like Sprint's website just fixed a formatting error in that feature list and didn't have room on the page for another feature. That's not a complete feature list by any means, so just because tethering's not listed doesn't mean the Pre won't do it. Palm's site still says it has that capability. Of course Sprint will still want you to pay the extra $15/month for the privilege like with all their other phones that have that capability.

sir_mycroft · 02/19/2009, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by migs

Hopefully JuneFabrics, makers of PdaNet will get on it and develop an app for webOs to allow tethering. They did it for Palm Os!

Agreed. Even if Sprint is disabling or charging extra for tethering (although only for the Pre? Winmo o.k. to tether?) a work around will be available in a month after launch.

PalmKing · 02/19/2009, 03:41 PM

Palm's website states (details section): "Phone as laptop modem: Bluetooth tethering" and "Connector: MicroUSB connector with USB 2.0 Hi-Speed"

SeanBlader · 02/19/2009, 04:30 PM

That's a deal breaker for me. I don't use my N95 to connect my laptop to the net often, but when I do I'm glad it's there. Sprint may just have to live without me as a customer, and I'll have to stick with AT&T and have a Pre imported from EU.

gilroykilroy · 02/19/2009, 06:43 PM

It is a deal breaker for me too. Right now I am typing this using an Instinct tethered to my MacBook Pro. Note that tethering isn't supported on the Instinct but it works. I would be fine if tethering on the Pre also worked this way (i.e. it worked but wasn't supported.)

Alas I can't upgrade to a Pre until June at the earliest anyway (1 year from when I got the Instinct) so this issue should be resolved by then.

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01/08/2009, 08:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
hova Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: B-More Posts: 259 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 13 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	They've since updated that story. Read it again. __________________ "Bite the hand that feeds you,.......They'll always be impressed by the sharpness of your teeth."-Peggy Sellers (Miriam Margolyes)
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01/08/2009, 08:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
BMIC50 Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Boo-val,FL Posts: 2,545 Likes Received: 130 Thanks: 176 Thanked 161 Times in 129 Posts	It says bluetooth tethering.
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01/08/2009, 08:46 PM	#6 (permalink)
dave75 Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 801 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 29 Thanked 78 Times in 59 Posts	From Palm's website Carrier Sprint Operating system Palm® webOS™ Network specs 3G EVDO Rev A Display 3.1-inch touch screen with a vibrant 24-bit color 320x480 resolution HVGA display Keyboard Physical QWERTY keyboard Email 2 Microsoft Outlook® email with Microsoft® Direct Push Technology POP3/IMAP (Yahoo, Gmail, AOL, etc). Messaging Integrated IM, SMS, and MMS GPS Built-in GPS Digital camera 3 megapixel camera with LED flash and extended depth of field Sensors Ambient light, accelerometer, and proximity Media formats supported Audio Formats: MP3, AAC, AAC+, AMR, QCELP, WAV Video Formats: MPEG-4, H.263, H.264 Image Formats: GIF, Animated GIF, JPEG, PNG, BMP Wireless connectivity Wi-Fi 802.11b/g with WPA, WPA2, 801.1x authentication Bluetooth® 2.1 + EDR with A2DP stereo Bluetooth support Memory 8GB of user storage (~7.4GB user available) USB mass storage support Phone as laptop modem Bluetooth tethering Connector MicroUSB connector with USB 2.0 Hi-Speed Headphone jack 3.5mm stereo Palm® Touchstone™charging dock Compatible Dimensions Width: 59.5mm (2.3 inches) Height: 100.5mm (3.9 inches) Thickness: 16.95mm (0.67 inches) Weight 135 grams (4.76 ounces)
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Eguy Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: City of Angels Posts: 2,533 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 371 Thanked 175 Times in 132 Posts	Not to mention there will probably be 3rd party apps in the future like PDAnet or USB Modem...
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Qualme Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oh Canada Posts: 30 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Tethering – Phone as Modem – No? Engadget just reported that Sprint has removed data Tethering as a freature. Palm Pre no longer features data tethering on Sprint website - Engadget
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PedroTheGoat Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kerrville, Tx Posts: 680 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 89 Thanked 191 Times in 39 Posts	Hmmmm odd... They might just feel as if the general public didn't need to know that it was a feature. Not too many people tether their phones. Plus, Sprint is pushing the mobile card stuff. __________________ -Goatin' Ain't Easy-
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02/19/2009, 02:47 PM	#12 (permalink)
Qualme Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oh Canada Posts: 30 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Ya it seems that way.
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02/19/2009, 02:50 PM	#13 (permalink)
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Zorro1 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 211 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 7 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Well, yeah, I'm with Miles, nice to have because I figured that it would be my backup broadband for my computer if my home service went out, which does happen now and then...and I could still connect via the phone. Miles, I'm still ticked that the V rep lied to us about broadband on her Centro when we went to Mex. What the heck?
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migs Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 876 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 68 Thanked 64 Times in 41 Posts	Hopefully JuneFabrics, makers of PdaNet will get on it and develop an app for webOs to allow tethering. They did it for Palm Os!
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reidme Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 373 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 31 Thanked 88 Times in 36 Posts	I think Engadget is reading too much into this. From the pictures it looks like Sprint's website just fixed a formatting error in that feature list and didn't have room on the page for another feature. That's not a complete feature list by any means, so just because tethering's not listed doesn't mean the Pre won't do it. Palm's site still says it has that capability. Of course Sprint will still want you to pay the extra $15/month for the privilege like with all their other phones that have that capability.
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PalmKing Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 270 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 10 Thanked 20 Times in 10 Posts	Palm's website states (details section): "Phone as laptop modem: Bluetooth tethering" and "Connector: MicroUSB connector with USB 2.0 Hi-Speed"
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SeanBlader Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Silicon Valley, CA Posts: 112 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	That's a deal breaker for me. I don't use my N95 to connect my laptop to the net often, but when I do I'm glad it's there. Sprint may just have to live without me as a customer, and I'll have to stick with AT&T and have a Pre imported from EU.
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02/19/2009, 06:43 PM	#20 (permalink)
gilroykilroy Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 42 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It is a deal breaker for me too. Right now I am typing this using an Instinct tethered to my MacBook Pro. Note that tethering isn't supported on the Instinct but it works. I would be fine if tethering on the Pre also worked this way (i.e. it worked but wasn't supported.) Alas I can't upgrade to a Pre until June at the earliest anyway (1 year from when I got the Instinct) so this issue should be resolved by then.
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