IMPORTANT TO KNOW about the WebOS 2.0.x Dr

pastorrich1 · 05:23 PM

UPDATE: 11/30/2010 I JUST DR'ED AGAIN USING THE SAME METHOD AND FILE AS BEFORE AND MY USB PARTITION REMAINED INTACT! SORRY FOR ANY CONFUSION!

I decided to Dr. my Pre 2 just to make sure everything worked like it did previously... IT DOESN"T.

Two important notes.

NOTE ONE:
The Palm website now says to put your device in recovery mode in order to Dr.

http://ws.palm.com/webosdoctor/sorry.htm

It doesn't appear to be a suggestion. I tried twice without doing it (like I always had on my Pre minus). It would connect and get the USB icon on the screen and wait about five minutes with the charging message in the Dr. app before erroring out. I put it in recovery mode and it worked like a champ.

NOTE TWO:
Unlike the later Dr. version from 1.3.x on, the WebOS 2.0.1 Dr. DOES ERASE YOUR USB PARTITION! So make sure and back up your stuff BEFORE you Dr.

Garrett92C · 11/27/2010, 12:16 PM

Thanks for the warning about the USB partition!

I even added that to my sig to help spread the word lol

GuyFromNam · 11/27/2010, 12:22 PM

Thanks Rich.
People better stop and think twice before they carelessly advice other to just run the doctor!

NachoB · 11/27/2010, 01:10 PM

Oh you HUSH

Thanks for the heads up pastorrich

Cantaffordit · 11/27/2010, 01:12 PM

holy crap I hope palm changes that before they release it to arriers...

GuyFromNam · 11/27/2010, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantaffordit

holy crap I hope palm changes that before they release it to arriers...

It would be so like Palm to push the 2.0 update and format USB partitions around the world - LOL

Are 'arriers' French crappy carriers?

pastorrich1 · 11/27/2010, 02:27 PM

One other thing it didn't do was keep my dictionary additions and shortcuts. I thought that might be part of my profile but it wasn't. Save/Restore seems to support backing that up but I can't know for sure since I didn't copy my stuff over to a computer first. Good thing it had only been a week of use and not a year.

Audemars02 · 11/28/2010, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pastorrich1

One other thing it didn't do was keep my dictionary additions and shortcuts. I thought that might be part of my profile but it wasn't. Save/Restore seems to support backing that up but I can't know for sure since I didn't copy my stuff over to a computer first. Good thing it had only been a week of use and not a year.

Save/Restore only saves the webOS 1.x version of the the autoreplace dictionary. I am not sure yet how it works in webOS 2.0, but I can tell you that Save/Restore will NOT restore into 2.0, nor can it currently backup in 2.0... I have been trying to figure out if it saves to your profile now, or if its still a manual backup. stay tuned!

kkhanmd · 11/28/2010, 12:20 PM

I hope they fix the USB erase thing, another thing they need to fix is the instant messaging Avatar, if some one changes there pictures on facebook, the avatar goes blank.

pastorrich1 · 11/28/2010, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Audemars02

Save/Restore only saves the webOS 1.x version of the the autoreplace dictionary. I am not sure yet how it works in webOS 2.0, but I can tell you that Save/Restore will NOT restore into 2.0, nor can it currently backup in 2.0... I have been trying to figure out if it saves to your profile now, or if its still a manual backup. stay tuned!

It's a manual backup. The profile doesn't back it up.

pastorrich1 · 11/29/2010, 11:00 AM

BUMP

Since this was mentioned on the PC main page and at least one other user reported different results than I got, are there any other Pre 2 users who would be willing to download the latest version of the Dr. and report their findings back here in this thread?

We want to make sure we have the most current and accurate information.

frause · 11/29/2010, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pastorrich1

Since this was mentioned on the PC main page and at least one other user reported different results than I got, are there any other Pre 2 users who would be willing to download the latest version of the Dr. and report their findings back here in this thread?

We want to make sure we have the most current and accurate information.

It erased my USB partition. I used the 2.0.1 doctor (build 80.79) to update from 2.0.0. Did you doctor to the same version of the OS?

msdavies · 11/29/2010, 03:53 PM

I used the same version of Dr (build 80.79) to 2.0.1 but I am not sure that it scrubbed all the USB partition. Certainly all my Music remained, and ClassicApps but other items like my text messages got blatted.

One thing I am finding and it may be compounded now with the dr is a number of homebrew apps just are not functioning under webOS 2.0 (or 2.0.1 in my case).

I am getting a lot of error messages about "Error - not permitted to send to xxxxx" for apps like Internalz. I also have another problem that when I try to copy a lot of files it cuts off on the tenth file and drops the connection to the USB drive.

Not sure whether its application issues due to changes in the way webOS now accesses the drive.

What should the correct permissions be?

When I connect in a shell as root it is read-only. Whereas before it was read-write. As when I went to recreate the link to get Classic to work again I found it wouldn't because it was ro so I had to mount it as rw.

Is it supposed to be rw in which case dr has screwed up the permissions or is it that some of these applications are incorrect?

Any ideas?

Cheers

HardBeatZ · 11/29/2010, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pastorrich1

I decided to Dr. my Pre 2 just to make sure everything worked like it did previously... IT DOESN"T.

Two important notes.

NOTE ONE:
The Palm website now says to put your device in recovery mode in order to Dr.

http://ws.palm.com/webosdoctor/sorry.htm

It doesn't appear to be a suggestion. I tried twice without doing it (like I always had on my Pre minus). It would connect and get the USB icon on the screen and wait about five minutes with the charging message in the Dr. app before erroring out. I put it in recovery mode and it worked like a champ.

NOTE TWO:
Unlike the later Dr. version from 1.3.x on, the WebOS 2.0.1 Dr. DOES ERASE YOUR USB PARTITION! So make sure and back up your stuff BEFORE you Dr.

This is NOT expected behavior. Rich I have sent you a PM in regards to this issue.

--HardBeatZ

Cantaffordit · 11/29/2010, 04:58 PM

and we al breath a collective sigh of relief.

johncc · 11/29/2010, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantaffordit

and we al breath a collective sigh of relief.

... but will back-up, just in case.

Jonathan I Ezor · 11/29/2010, 05:39 PM

Hardbeatz,

If you can PM or e-mail me (to jonathan.ezor@precentral.net) some relevant info, I'd be happy to update the story on the homepage. {Jonathan}

callmechewy · 11/29/2010, 05:40 PM

Personally, I hope 2.0 comes out for the Pre Plus soon...and keeps the USB-erasing function!

Why? My phone has been messed up since the day I got it...I can't doctor it, no matter what I do. It always errors out after the first reboot. Maybe this way, I'll be able to get through a full doctor!

pastorrich1 · 11/29/2010, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HardBeatZ

This is NOT expected behavior. Rich I have sent you a PM in regards to this issue.

--HardBeatZ

PM received and responded too. I will be happy to do whatever you need to ensure the right things are taking place and properly reported back to the community.

pastorrich1 · 11/29/2010, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan I Ezor

Hardbeatz,

If you can PM or e-mail me (to jonathan.ezor@precentral.net) some relevant info, I'd be happy to update the story on the homepage. {Jonathan}

If it turns out that it was the result of some odd combination of things on my part I will make sure and update this thread and let you know as well.

11/27/2010, 11:56 AM	#1 (permalink)
pastorrich1 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 2,151 Likes Received: 4 Thanks: 397 Thanked 828 Times in 499 Posts	IMPORTANT TO KNOW about the WebOS 2.0.x Dr UPDATE: 11/30/2010 I JUST DR'ED AGAIN USING THE SAME METHOD AND FILE AS BEFORE AND MY USB PARTITION REMAINED INTACT! SORRY FOR ANY CONFUSION! I decided to Dr. my Pre 2 just to make sure everything worked like it did previously... IT DOESN"T. Two important notes. NOTE ONE: The Palm website now says to put your device in recovery mode in order to Dr. http://ws.palm.com/webosdoctor/sorry.htm It doesn't appear to be a suggestion. I tried twice without doing it (like I always had on my Pre minus). It would connect and get the USB icon on the screen and wait about five minutes with the charging message in the Dr. app before erroring out. I put it in recovery mode and it worked like a champ. NOTE TWO: Unlike the later Dr. version from 1.3.x on, the WebOS 2.0.1 Dr. DOES ERASE YOUR USB PARTITION! So make sure and back up your stuff BEFORE you Dr. __________________ *Clicking the Thanks button is a great way to say... well THANKS* Phone Apps: Church Search, Tap for HELP TouchPad Apps: Tap for HELP! HD, webOS Meetups Last edited by pastorrich1; 11/30/2010 at 05:23 PM.
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Garrett92C Homebrew Developer Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 125 Likes Received: 67 Thanks: 43 Thanked 3,128 Times in 2,009 Posts	Thanks for the warning about the USB partition! I even added that to my sig to help spread the word lol __________________ Twitter: @ChoorpStudios Like my work and want to donate? You can do so here.
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GuyFromNam Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 5,049 Likes Received: 96 Thanks: 1,060 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,669 Posts	Thanks Rich. People better stop and think twice before they carelessly advice other to just run the doctor!
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pastorrich1 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 2,151 Likes Received: 4 Thanks: 397 Thanked 828 Times in 499 Posts	One other thing it didn't do was keep my dictionary additions and shortcuts. I thought that might be part of my profile but it wasn't. Save/Restore seems to support backing that up but I can't know for sure since I didn't copy my stuff over to a computer first. Good thing it had only been a week of use and not a year.
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kkhanmd Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,069 Likes Received: 81 Thanks: 280 Thanked 245 Times in 187 Posts	I hope they fix the USB erase thing, another thing they need to fix is the instant messaging Avatar, if some one changes there pictures on facebook, the avatar goes blank. __________________ If this helped you hit thanks.
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11/29/2010, 11:00 AM	#11 (permalink)
pastorrich1 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 2,151 Likes Received: 4 Thanks: 397 Thanked 828 Times in 499 Posts	BUMP Since this was mentioned on the PC main page and at least one other user reported different results than I got, are there any other Pre 2 users who would be willing to download the latest version of the Dr. and report their findings back here in this thread? We want to make sure we have the most current and accurate information. __________________ *Clicking the Thanks button is a great way to say... well THANKS* Phone Apps: Church Search, Tap for HELP TouchPad Apps: Tap for HELP! HD, webOS Meetups
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11/29/2010, 03:53 PM	#13 (permalink)
msdavies Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: UK Posts: 123 Likes Received: 5 Thanks: 13 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts	Issues with Pre2 / webOS 2.0/2.0.1 I used the same version of Dr (build 80.79) to 2.0.1 but I am not sure that it scrubbed all the USB partition. Certainly all my Music remained, and ClassicApps but other items like my text messages got blatted. One thing I am finding and it may be compounded now with the dr is a number of homebrew apps just are not functioning under webOS 2.0 (or 2.0.1 in my case). I am getting a lot of error messages about "Error - not permitted to send to xxxxx" for apps like Internalz. I also have another problem that when I try to copy a lot of files it cuts off on the tenth file and drops the connection to the USB drive. Not sure whether its application issues due to changes in the way webOS now accesses the drive. What should the correct permissions be? When I connect in a shell as root it is read-only. Whereas before it was read-write. As when I went to recreate the link to get Classic to work again I found it wouldn't because it was ro so I had to mount it as rw. Is it supposed to be rw in which case dr has screwed up the permissions or is it that some of these applications are incorrect? Any ideas? Cheers __________________ ___ My Palm PDA history: m130 > Tungsten T > Tungsten T\|X > Pre 2 > HP Pre 3 (unlocked) My Mobile history: Nokia 5146 > 3110 > Samsung D900 > N73 > Nokia 6300 > Pre 2 (convergence!) > HP Pre 3 My Tablet history: HP TouchPad 32Gb (model A - 1st gen)
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Jonathan I Ezor Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Island, NY, USA Posts: 568 Likes Received: 16 Thanks: 285 Thanked 225 Times in 117 Posts	Hardbeatz, If you can PM or e-mail me (to jonathan.ezor@precentral.net) some relevant info, I'd be happy to update the story on the homepage. {Jonathan}
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callmechewy Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 307 Likes Received: 9 Thanks: 34 Thanked 38 Times in 22 Posts	Personally, I hope 2.0 comes out for the Pre Plus soon...and keeps the USB-erasing function! Why? My phone has been messed up since the day I got it...I can't doctor it, no matter what I do. It always errors out after the first reboot. Maybe this way, I'll be able to get through a full doctor!
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