Palm Pre 2 at NYC Engadget Meetup

Croathlete · 10/21/2010, 10:15 PM

So I attended the meetup, not knowing what Palm was going to be showing. Low and behold, two Palm employees (sorry, forgot their names) and two touchstones, and......four developer Pre 2's running on AT&T!

I'll post more of a detailed review tomorrow morning, but let me just say this. It's probably a combination of the new hardware and webOS 2.0, but the UI is smooth. Like iPhone smooth. Apps open up very quickly. Stacks work great. It was extremely impressive and I think they took a lot of people by surprise.

Of course I asked about future hardware and Sprint. All I got were smiles and a "Sorry, can't comment, but hold on a little longer". I didn't expect any different. I tried taking a few pictures with my Pre, but they all came out pretty bad with it being a dark room and all.

TyBec · 10/21/2010, 10:18 PM

Sweet! Sounded like a good time.

palmrieder · 10/21/2010, 10:53 PM

I was one of the two Palm people there. Had an awesome time meeting all of the webOS enthusiasts. Seriously, you guys are amazing and made the whole event for me.

Huge thanks to everyone who came out!

Justin

fernandez21 · 10/21/2010, 11:19 PM

How was the keyboard? Same as the pluses or clickier like the pixie? How did tue slider feel like? How did the glass screen feel like? Was the screen any better, I know it's the same resolution, but were there any improvements to tue black levels, viewing angles, colors, ect. ? How did the power and volume buttons feel like? Sorry for all the questions, just very curious.

swieder · 10/21/2010, 11:20 PM

Nice to see more proof of an ATT version. Any dates?

fernandez21 · 10/21/2010, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Palmrieder

I was one of the two Palm people there. Had an awesome time meeting all of the webOS enthusiasts. Seriously, you guys are amazing and made the whole event for me.

Huge thanks to everyone who came out!

Justin

Does the fact that every single reviewer and demo of the pre 2 is running on AT&T a hint towards something, or is it just coincidence?

pullbangdead · 10/21/2010, 11:21 PM

I'm sure you will get more questions (Palm employee and OP), but how is the hardware "feel"? As in Oreo effect? Solid feel to the slider? The new plastic sides? Glass screen?

I'm looking forward to your review OP, just making sure I get word in on the things I'd like to see in your review.

2sslow · 10/21/2010, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernandez21

Does the fact that every single reviewer and demo of the pre 2 is running on AT&T a hint towards something, or is it just coincidence?

AT&t is the only major gsm carrier in the us so im thinking thats why their on AT&t. Sim card swap!

xcharles718 · 10/21/2010, 11:45 PM

I was there has well. Overall the phone felt great, about the same size has the original pre and the keyboard was good(to me at least), everything was very smooth from the UI to games(played angry birds lite). I believed that the reason why those phone where on ATT was because they are dev devices. Unfortunately from what I can tell that there isn't a ATT version(please correct me if I'm wrong), but you can buy a NAM version of the pre 2 soon.

RMB · 10/21/2010, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernandez21

Does the fact that every single reviewer and demo of the pre 2 is running on AT&T a hint towards something, or is it just coincidence?

No other option for a GSM Pre. It doesn't support 3G freqn on T-Mobile.

palmrieder · 10/21/2010, 11:58 PM

xcharles718 is right. We used the unlocked developer Palm Pre 2 for tonight's meet up. We don't have anything to announce regarding additional carrier launches at this time.

Brain Mantis · 10/22/2010, 12:35 AM

Sorry for the crappy pictures:

I was at the Engadget meet up today in NYC and Palm was there with two Palm Pre 2's.

Only spent about 2 minutes with it..quick impressions:

Looks VERY similar...the only real noticeable difference is the glass screen. Its completely flat now which feels odd since i'm used to the slight curve, but overall is better and more consistent scrolls. Speaking of which, I didn't see it in videos, but the response time is improved. Esp. in the launcher. Pages scroll effortlessly. App launch time seems acceptable as well.

Honestly, its what the Palm Pre should've been, but its something (if the software does hold up to improvements) i would be ok with recommending to friends at a good price. (which is something i can't do with the current Pre.)

Wish i had more time with it but a lot of people were there.

foosball · 10/22/2010, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brain Mantis

Only spent about 2 minutes with it..quick impressions:

Looks VERY similar...the only real noticeable difference is the glass screen. Its completely flat now which feels odd since i'm used to the slight curve, but overall is better and more consistent scrolls. Speaking of which, I didn't see it in videos, but the response time is improved. Esp. in the launcher. Pages scroll effortlessly. App launch time seems acceptable as well.

Nice to hear. For all the reviews of webOS 2.0 the responsiveness issue didn't seem to get mentioned (granted responsiveness is a function of hardware as well).

Smartfah · 10/22/2010, 01:04 AM

I was there too. The phone & webOS 2.0 are great. I like the feel of it, & it's slightly thinner than the Pre. I agree, it is what the Pre should have been but oh well. Still upset that it's not coming to Sprint. Hopefully Sprint will be getting next gen hardware, if not I'm hoping there would be a way to mod the Pre 2 to work on Sprint the way the Pre Plus has been moded.

QuarlesLT · 10/22/2010, 01:04 AM

Engadget's review couldn't praise the speed and responsiveness more. OP would you say the launcher felt hardware accelerated?

Treiz · 10/22/2010, 01:05 AM

My buddy is a Palm rep, he let me know that he was going to be in town training Verizon Reps so I got to play with his for a good half hour.

Compared with my overclocked Pre+ the Pre2 is a bit heavier, feels more solid. The glass screen is a great improvement. While the two phones loaded apps at about equal pace, the Pre2 had very noticeably smoother scrolling and other graphics operations. I can honestly say that if it comes to ATT I will get one.

bullonparade85 · 10/22/2010, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Treiz

My buddy is a Palm rep, he let me know that he was going to be in town training Verizon Reps so I got to play with his for a good half hour.

Compared with my overclocked Pre+ the Pre2 is a bit heavier, feels more solid. The glass screen is a great improvement. While the two phones loaded apps at about equal pace, the Pre2 had very noticeably smoother scrolling and other graphics operations. I can honestly say that if it comes to ATT I will get one.

hopefully verizon sales reps will be better prepared this time around.

QuarlesLT · 10/22/2010, 01:12 AM

Also how did the slider feel compared to the Plus? Thanks for the details.

Treiz · 10/22/2010, 01:13 AM

The slider was similar, perhaps a touch more solid.

Spinfusor · 10/22/2010, 01:14 AM

I loved the Pre 2. Everything on it flies, the flat glass screen is very nice, and the matte finish is much appreciated. I wasn't going to upgrade, but after using one I don't think I'll be able to resist. Many thanks to Justin and Joshua (I hope I got that last name right)!

I also got a chance to check out the Nokia N8 and the BlackBerry Torch. I'm not impressed; webOS 2 runs circles around Symbian^3 and BlackBerry OS 6 (the hardware is much nicer too).

10/21/2010, 10:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
Croathlete Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 158 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 7 Thanked 45 Times in 17 Posts	Palm Pre 2 at NYC Engadget Meetup So I attended the meetup, not knowing what Palm was going to be showing. Low and behold, two Palm employees (sorry, forgot their names) and two touchstones, and......four developer Pre 2's running on AT&T! I'll post more of a detailed review tomorrow morning, but let me just say this. It's probably a combination of the new hardware and webOS 2.0, but the UI is smooth. Like iPhone smooth. Apps open up very quickly. Stacks work great. It was extremely impressive and I think they took a lot of people by surprise. Of course I asked about future hardware and Sprint. All I got were smiles and a "Sorry, can't comment, but hold on a little longer". I didn't expect any different. I tried taking a few pictures with my Pre, but they all came out pretty bad with it being a dark room and all.
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10/21/2010, 10:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
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10/21/2010, 10:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
palmrieder Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 2 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 45 Times in 2 Posts	Engadget at Espace tonight I was one of the two Palm people there. Had an awesome time meeting all of the webOS enthusiasts. Seriously, you guys are amazing and made the whole event for me. Huge thanks to everyone who came out! Justin
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10/21/2010, 11:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
fernandez21 Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 454 Likes Received: 8 Thanks: 39 Thanked 85 Times in 50 Posts	How was the keyboard? Same as the pluses or clickier like the pixie? How did tue slider feel like? How did the glass screen feel like? Was the screen any better, I know it's the same resolution, but were there any improvements to tue black levels, viewing angles, colors, ect. ? How did the power and volume buttons feel like? Sorry for all the questions, just very curious. __________________ iPhone 4s 64gb for personal, at&t Prē 3 for business. Best of both worlds.
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10/21/2010, 11:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
swieder Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,968 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 241 Thanked 67 Times in 61 Posts	Nice to see more proof of an ATT version. Any dates? __________________ Pilot 5K->Palm IIIc->Tungsten T/T2->Treo 650/680 -> Pre+ (1.4.5 & Uberkernel)
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10/21/2010, 11:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
pullbangdead Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 353 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 7 Thanked 57 Times in 41 Posts	I'm sure you will get more questions (Palm employee and OP), but how is the hardware "feel"? As in Oreo effect? Solid feel to the slider? The new plastic sides? Glass screen? I'm looking forward to your review OP, just making sure I get word in on the things I'd like to see in your review.
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10/21/2010, 11:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
xcharles718 Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 38 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts	I was there has well. Overall the phone felt great, about the same size has the original pre and the keyboard was good(to me at least), everything was very smooth from the UI to games(played angry birds lite). I believed that the reason why those phone where on ATT was because they are dev devices. Unfortunately from what I can tell that there isn't a ATT version(please correct me if I'm wrong), but you can buy a NAM version of the pre 2 soon.
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10/21/2010, 11:58 PM	#11 (permalink)
palmrieder Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 2 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 45 Times in 2 Posts	xcharles718 is right. We used the unlocked developer Palm Pre 2 for tonight's meet up. We don't have anything to announce regarding additional carrier launches at this time.
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10/22/2010, 12:35 AM	#12 (permalink)
Brain Mantis Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,746 Likes Received: 32 Thanks: 40 Thanked 212 Times in 142 Posts	I played with a Palm Pre 2 tonight Sorry for the crappy pictures: I was at the Engadget meet up today in NYC and Palm was there with two Palm Pre 2's. Only spent about 2 minutes with it..quick impressions: Looks VERY similar...the only real noticeable difference is the glass screen. Its completely flat now which feels odd since i'm used to the slight curve, but overall is better and more consistent scrolls. Speaking of which, I didn't see it in videos, but the response time is improved. Esp. in the launcher. Pages scroll effortlessly. App launch time seems acceptable as well. Honestly, its what the Palm Pre should've been, but its something (if the software does hold up to improvements) i would be ok with recommending to friends at a good price. (which is something i can't do with the current Pre.) Wish i had more time with it but a lot of people were there.
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Smartfah Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,070 Likes Received: 174 Thanks: 150 Thanked 272 Times in 162 Posts	I was there too. The phone & webOS 2.0 are great. I like the feel of it, & it's slightly thinner than the Pre. I agree, it is what the Pre should have been but oh well. Still upset that it's not coming to Sprint. Hopefully Sprint will be getting next gen hardware, if not I'm hoping there would be a way to mod the Pre 2 to work on Sprint the way the Pre Plus has been moded.
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QuarlesLT Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 718 Likes Received: 2 Thanks: 106 Thanked 174 Times in 60 Posts	Engadget's review couldn't praise the speed and responsiveness more. OP would you say the launcher felt hardware accelerated?
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Treiz Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 95 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 5 Thanked 10 Times in 7 Posts	My buddy is a Palm rep, he let me know that he was going to be in town training Verizon Reps so I got to play with his for a good half hour. Compared with my overclocked Pre+ the Pre2 is a bit heavier, feels more solid. The glass screen is a great improvement. While the two phones loaded apps at about equal pace, the Pre2 had very noticeably smoother scrolling and other graphics operations. I can honestly say that if it comes to ATT I will get one.
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10/22/2010, 01:12 AM	#18 (permalink)
QuarlesLT Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 718 Likes Received: 2 Thanks: 106 Thanked 174 Times in 60 Posts	Also how did the slider feel compared to the Plus? Thanks for the details.
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Treiz Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 95 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 5 Thanked 10 Times in 7 Posts	The slider was similar, perhaps a touch more solid.
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Spinfusor Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 78 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 37 Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts	I loved the Pre 2. Everything on it flies, the flat glass screen is very nice, and the matte finish is much appreciated. I wasn't going to upgrade, but after using one I don't think I'll be able to resist. Many thanks to Justin and Joshua (I hope I got that last name right)! I also got a chance to check out the Nokia N8 and the BlackBerry Torch. I'm not impressed; webOS 2 runs circles around Symbian^3 and BlackBerry OS 6 (the hardware is much nicer too).
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