I don't agree with you.
Originally Posted by tholap
I'm going to first address your comments on market share then your ridiculous comments on this idea which almost seems to suggest: "we don't need smartphone technology to improve anymore"
The Palm Pre was released June 6, 2009 on Sprint.
Between June and Sept of 09 the ONLY thing that happened is Palm DID NOT continue to lose market share. They didn't gain, they just didn't lose for the first time since July 07 to Oct 07.
Palm's marketshare is 7%
Now click this link:
comScore Reports January 2010 U.S. Mobile Subscriber Market Share - comScore, Inc
Palm Pre Plus was released January 25, 2010 on Verizon. Palms marketshare was 5.7%
A month after the Palm Pre Plus was released:
comScore Reports February 2010 U.S. Mobile Subscriber Market Share - comScore, Inc
Palm lost another .3% of market share. 5.4%
Android’s US market share surges, Apple slip, Palm steadies | wirefresh
April 2010 its at 4.9% which is another .5% loss.
comScore Reports August 2010 U.S. Mobile Subscriber Market Share - comScore, Inc
August it's dropped to 4.6%
Palm released the Pre Plus on ATT on May 16, 2010. Palm only lost .01% between May and April.
Not one release, including the release of the original Pre, increased market share.
Palm had everyone's attention with the Pre and it still didn't gain market share. Albeit, they stopped losing FOR A LITTLE WHILE but that is all.
With Android growing out of control having viable options on all four major carriers, the Pre 2 with a spec update that [once it's released] will already be old news as these specs have been available for over half a year...you're trying to suggest that the Pre 2 will grow market share by 25 to 45%? [1 to 2 points]!?!?!?!?!?!
Palm has already lost almost 40% of their market share since releasing the Original Pre. [7% to 4.6%]
That means that Palm faithful experienced the Pre, saw how crappy the hardware was, and bailed out...
The smartphone community is LAUGHING at the new Pre 2. Read the reviews, read the comments from people that go to the sites.
HPalm will be lucky if they have 4% market share by CES 2011.
Now onto your comments about technology not needing to improve, bull.
You're right, only about 5% of smartphone users actually use the video chat option but then again there's only 3 phones that have the option. It will grow and eventually become much, much, much more popular.
This idea that smartphones will have 1gb of ram "not because its needed but because it looks nice" is interesting too.
Two years ago people couldn't imagine needing to have 512mb of ram, 1ghz processors and 4" beautiful screens and here we are with it as the industry standard.
As phones progress, the software will become more demanding and thus more demand on the hardware. Just like with computers.
Silly to suggest otherwise.
Camera comment now.
Why wouldn't I want a 10 mp and up camera on my phone?
The Evo is my camera now. I can take some amazing pictures with that thing.
So for $150 I have a great phone and a very solid camera. I don't have to buy one separately.
Zooming and such needs to be improved and other improvements are always welcome.
Now yes, at some point the amount of MP becomes unnecessary, but then other improvements to the camera will be made.
Now, you are right, most users want a simple phone that does what they want without a lot of technical know how.
Well, Android 3.0 is supposed to make the UI much more simple. [I already think it's simple enough and so do most people I know but whatever]
After that happens, android is going to absolutely own the freakin' market.
You have to look at trends man.
Only a few years ago the "average" user had a flip phone with a 1MP camera [if you're lucky] and only the basic abilities.
As little as next year, via market predictions, the "average" user is going to have a smartphone which...will likely have AT LEAST Pre 2 specs IF NOT better.
The "average" user didn't have their lives on their phone. Soon they will..and beyond..
One thing I notice on these particular forums is that you guys tend to dismiss new technology way too easily.
People on here saying that 4g is unnecessary. BS on that.
That'll be the standard in a year or less.
3g will become the same as 2g is to 3g now.
As phones progress in hardware the internet will have to get faster. People will want to be able to have video chat over their mobile networks with no lag. People will want to click their ESPN apps or what ever app and immediately get whatever information they can without any internet related delays.
That will require 4g and beyond.
The Palm Pre 2 is a fail device.