@mattykinx, the fact that vzw is going first doesn't mean that 'hp doesn't have the clout to get sprint to offer it'... It's better to look at it as 'hp had the clout to get the #1 carrier to go first instead of having to settle for #3.' the glass should be considered half full.
as I said somewhere else I see 3 benefits to vzw:
1. They stay one-up on at&t since at&t only have the pre plus.
2. They can make a big grab for sprint customers still living with the original pre minus.
3. They need to get their own base of pre plus users to upgrade because the replacement and support costs of the pre plus have been a money pit for verizon. It is also the only phone with a free mhs included in the data plan. If that gets much real-world use, it's another huge money losing aspect of the plus. You can bet MHS won't be free on the Pre2.
my guess is that if sprint HAD taken the pre2, it wouldn't have been as interesting to vzw but they see a competitive opening.
besides, there must be a few execs at vzw that feel so bad about screwing up the pre plus launch that they probably feel moraly obligated to atone for their sin by giving palm another chance.
with sprintls history of demanding exclusivity, insisting on being the first to offer new devices, verizon's short-sighted opportunism (android is the exception) and current relationship with hp (they sell hp netbooks) it makes sense that they grabbed the pre2. Now hp has to launch their own marketing push to make it successful so other carriers won't see the next palm phone as such a risk
the pre2 basically adresses the top complaints about the hardware (cracked screen, plastic screen, laggy touch screen, fragile corners, and hopefully battery life.
webos 2.0 will address a lot of the os complaints (limited to 3 pages)@etc and a new round of aps in the palm catalog will address even more complaints (like voice commands) soo.
if they had launched on vzw 3 months ago everyone would have seen it as a brilliant move, just like when vzw dropped the 700w and came out with the 700wx within a matter of months, addressing the disaster of the original 700w very quickly.