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    Let's forget about battery and CPU life. I hear people on this site keep saying I don't feel compelled to buy a Pre 2 because my UK Pre is already just as fast.

    Is it really that simple? I know the CPU core and memory speed make a difference which I think are the same in this scenario. But if you held benchmark tests between a Pre+ overclocked to 1GHz and a stock Pre 2 would they really score exactly the same (assuming the both were running WebOS 2.0)?

    And yes I realize the Pre 2 would probably be able to be overclocked even higher but I just wanted to know if stock Pre 2 and an overclocked Pre+ would be the same?
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    no
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    No one will be able to definitively answer this question until the actual model of the Pre2 CPU is released.

    Assuming (*** out of u and ming) it's the OMAP3640 in the Pre2, yes there will be a difference in the OC'd Pre+ and the Pre2 with the Pre2 coming out on top. It's a slightly more efficient architecture inside the 3640.

    Don't expect to much gain in GPU related tasks since they have the same GPU except in some PDK apps where the CPU is a bottleneck (Angry Birds). Other GPU/PDK things will show little to no improvement (Pixi Dust with a few thousand particles).

    With an OC Pre already being pretty smooth I have a feeling most people wont notice a difference in day to day tasks since there are other bottlenecks in the hardware around the CPU (assuming the hardware around the CPU doesn't change). For example, loading programs will be bottle necked by accessing the cloud (I'm looking at you google maps).

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    Still prefer a new Pre 2
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    There may be other portions of the Pre 2 hardware that are better optimized to work with webOS 2.0 or the OMAP3640, but at this time there's not enough information available to determine is such a difference exists.
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    I'm going to guess that the Pre2 will quickly be homebrewed and overclocked beyond the stock 1GHz.
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    Doesn't overclocking your Pre to 1 GHz void the warranty anyway? So, at the very least, the new Pre 2 would run at 1 GHz and not void the warranty.
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    Ponder this....

    Which is faster? My single core 3ghz machine or my dual core 1.3ghz machine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by preryan View Post
    I'm going to guess that the Pre2 will quickly be homebrewed and overclocked beyond the stock 1GHz.
    True but then the next question is how much could you safely overclock a 3640 chip? I'm guessing 1.3GHz for most and 1.5GHz would be probably pushing it.

    The second question would be, with an optimized faster WebOS 2.0, at what speeds would the CPU begin to have diminishing returns to the user experience?
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    Quote Originally Posted by YankBoy View Post
    Doesn't overclocking your Pre to 1 GHz void the warranty anyway? So, at the very least, the new Pre 2 would run at 1 GHz and not void the warranty.
    I haven't heard a single person having a problem with this. Lord knows I've returned a couple overclocked Pre's for reasons not related to the CPU and had no problem. Long as you return it to a stock configuration before you bring it in to Sprint I'm not sure how they would know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pogeypre View Post
    Ponder this....

    Which is faster? My single core 3ghz machine or my dual core 1.3ghz machine?
    Exactly. GHZ isn't the end all say all to processors. Going on that assumption, the Pixi would be faser than the Pre, as is CPU is clocked at 600mhz, and the Pre at 500mhz.

    But it's how many threads can it handle, etc.
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    The pre will always be slow with booting up and loading apps compare to the competition....the mod explains it perfectly in this post (if you know the differences between interpreted vs compiled code is you might already know this)

    http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pr...ml#post2719966
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