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    The article everyone references says "A-GPS".

    This is going to AT&T right? So there is now a GSM based assisted GPS? Or what does the "A-GPS" mean? And does this mean, that the device's GPS won't work off AT&T's network.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darnell View Post
    The article everyone references says "A-GPS".

    This is going to AT&T right? So there is now a GSM based assisted GPS? Or what does the "A-GPS" mean? And does this mean, that the device's GPS won't work off AT&T's network.
    Good question...

    I think we should take all of these specs with a fair dosage of salt since there has been NO official word on the eos.. so it could be a big hoax..

    I hope not, but you never know..
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    I think I hit this dead on with the Centro 2. There's going to be no wifi or Real GPS in this phone. It's a smart move to differentiate from the Pre
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    If the claims of a $349 pre-rebate price are correct. The contract discounted price could make it cheap enough, that whatever it lacks won't matter, to folks looking for something that looks cool at a low enough price point.

    Yes, it could very well fill in for the Centro. Although the Centro had MicroSD, it only supported 4GB.

    Wonder if they'll use those soft gel like buttons .
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    Quote Originally Posted by darnell View Post
    If the claims of a $349 pre-rebate price are correct. The contract discounted price could make it cheap enough, that whatever it lacks won't matter, to folks looking for something that looks cool at a low enough price point.

    Yes, it could very well fill in for the Centro. Although the Centro had MicroSD, it only supported 4GB.

    Wonder if they'll use those soft gel like buttons .
    I've got a 8GB microSD in my Centro and it works great. I think it might even work with 16GB cards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leadtrumpetdave View Post
    I've got a 8GB microSD in my Centro and it works great. I think it might even work with 16GB cards.
    I mentioned 4GB because I don't have a Centro and the documentation on Palm.com mentions a 4GB max.

    Well, how can someone replace their Centro with one of these if they're already using an 8GB MicroSDHC?
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    Quote Originally Posted by leadtrumpetdave View Post
    I've got a 8GB microSD in my Centro and it works great. I think it might even work with 16GB cards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigredgpk View Post
    There's going to be no wifi or Real GPS in this phone. It's a smart move to differentiate from the Pre
    I will bet its GPS is identical to the Pre.

    Palm needs serious third party apps and consistency for development of its own apps. Sprint needs consistency as well.

    There is zero advantage to differentiating on application, including how the GPS will work because there won't be any third party full fledged GPS nav programs for webOS for two years or so since telnav inclued at no additional charge, and other factors such as lack of SD (the DRM of choice for Garmin) kills a huge portion of the market demand you see on WM.

    The Pre's greater memory, greater screen size and novel form factor provide ample differentiation. Wifi if absent on the EOS has no negative for applications.
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    Typically these days A-GPS is meant to infer standalone gps that's also assisted by towers. "Typically." Longtime TreoCentral forum members know how dangerous these waters are, but I'm hopeful it will be fully functional.
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    Looks like it's going to be aGPS only. As the fine print on the details page notes:
    GPS3 Built-in GPS
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    3 Within wireless coverage area only. Voice-activated, as-you-go, turn by turn directions sold separately.
    Same as Pre, so sadly no pleasant surprises .
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    The Pixi will work as a stand alone GPS unit. I tested it this weekend. I was in an area with no cell/data coverage (up in the mountains in the east), I switched it to airplane mode to conserve the battery on the hike and tried out GoTo Lite to see if it would actually pull GPS coordinates. Sure enough, the Pixi gave me GPS coordinates fairly quickly. This is on an unhacked, stock phone with webOS 1.3.1.

    Now all the other stuff like pulling up maps or getting voice turn-by-turn directions won't work as there's no data network.
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    Many people still don't seem to fully understand what A-GPS is. First off, it has nothing at all to do with att. A-GPS stands for "assisted GPS", that means it uses whatever cellular radio is in the device to triangulate the location first, and then uses GPS from there down to get a more accurate fix. This enables it to get a more rapid fix than using the GPS module in a stand alone fashion. The GPS will still work stand alone, the note about the phone needing data for navigation is not in reference to the GPS but to the fact that the included mapping applications require a data connection for routes and traffic.
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    Maybe my GPS is busted then, because if the GPS is the same as the Pre then it's seriously off! It seems like unless I'm standing outside with a clear view of the sky when I try to locate myself in Google maps it can't, and even when it does locate me, it is a number of blocks off of my location... if I had to guess I'd say 1/4 to 1/2 mile maybe off...
    In the city, that makes it fairly useless, so I'm thinking maybe I got a busted GPS reciever..?
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    Assisted GPS is most accurate when you have a clear line of sight to the sky. If I'm in a building, my GPS location will take longer to locate and most likely be inaccurate compared to being outside. Often, GPS location won't even work inside large buildings. Satellite signals can't penetrate through walls or ceilings.

    Read up on A-GPS here: Assisted GPS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The Pixi works as a stand alone GPS device. It can tell you lat's and lon's as long as you have a clear line of sight to the sky without the assistance of a cellular network. This is the preferred method of A-GPS which I hoped the Pixi has and it does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by webosuser View Post
    Assisted GPS is most accurate when you have a clear line of sight to the sky. If I'm in a building, my GPS location will take longer to locate and most likely be inaccurate compared to being outside. Often, GPS location won't even work inside large buildings. Satellite signals can't penetrate through walls or ceilings.

    Read up on A-GPS here: [url= GPS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

    The Pixi works as a stand alone GPS device. It can tell you lat's and lon's as long as you have a clear line of sight to the sky without the assistance of a cellular network. This is the preferred method of A-GPS which I hoped the Pixi has and it does.

    Yeah, I'm familiar with the above, which is why I think I got a faulty GPS receiver bc even in open spaces / skys my location is quite a bit off... Much like how the Centro was always a bit off bc it only used the towers to triangulate your position...

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