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  1. #61  
    What am I missing about web browsing on the Palm OS? It's really novelty for the most part right?

    I ask because I needed to do some driving to San Fransisco last Fall and needed directions to this guys house. I went to mapquet and saw a link to download the map to the handheld... I thougth "wow this is cool no more paper" (I love the idea of the paperless office). So I clicked it, and of course learned of Advant Go and got it going in a few minutes.

    Then the reality hit me when I zoomed into the map. It wanted to resync for every stink'n click I made. Now how much more usless could that possibly be to me? I would think it would have some smarts to it, if you download a map that you'd need to zoom into the targeted destination. If you download a site it should know to download the entire site (as an option... you can't DL all of mapquest LOL).

    Even while using the software I would accidentally click something and bingo, I'd doom myself to another long sync.

    I see the popularity of this thread and I figure there must be SOMETHING I'm really missing about the practicality of this (I mean how often am I away from a real browser?... answer: only when I want to be away from one, like kayaking up in the Tahoe region :-) )

    After my "Ohhh this could be REALLY cool" first impressions with mapquest I was hit with the reality "to browse I have to be hooked up to my PC to really use... which has a better display"

    I concluded In the end it was like porn on the computer back in the early 80's with the Amiga... sure it had great graphics compared to other systems but not better then Penthouse/Playboy etc. :-) ....novelty was what it came down to. Doing it because we can.... because it's cutting edge... because we are techno toy lovers. :-)

    If that is really what the hype is behind all this, I can handle that. But I get the feeling from the way everyone seems to love it that I am possibly missing something more... what, I don't know. Hell maybe they updated it enough in the last 7 months that my complaints are invalid.

    I do see that if I was into movies (I'm purely a DVD man now, rather spend my money on a movie I keep for a few bux more), then I'd want it. Same with news I can see if I cared about news that would be cool (assuming that it wasn't set up as links that need to re-sync) but I have my PC for all that. It's not like it's a must for the Palm.

    James
  2. #62  
    Originally posted by Kintama
    What am I missing about web browsing on the Palm OS? It's really novelty for the most part right?
    well, not really. For maps, I admit, realtime wireless is best. 2nd best is Mapopolis or a similar map prog, that stores the map entirely on the handheld. AvantGo is a distant third.

    But for other applications, AvantGo is very cool. Anything text content on the web is ideal for AvantGo. I read the local paper, get the weather, salon.com, etc. To have access to this kind of information on you all the time is great. I can't tell you how many times I've been in a conversation where a news story is mentioned, and I just happen to have the very story in question right there.

    Of course, we can play the novelty vs. necessity game all day long, it comes down to your personal needs and novelties. But don't discount AvantGo right away!

    ...p.s. also give VindiGo a try. It's a cityguide that includes restaurants, movies, shopping, and bars.... all with reviews, showtimes, phone numbers, walking directions, etc! It's great!
  3. #63  
    Thanks for the feedback.

    I was using MapQuest as an example but you bring up a good point and that is maybe I chose the worst thing in the world for web browsing on my visor LOL.

    Incidentally I do have mapopolis but unfortunatly it slow and hard to read while driving... hard to read when not driving for that matter :-)

    Vidigo... I heard about this from a friend last week and looked at their site. Very impressive if you live in one of the 20 cities but unfortunately I don't. I'll be keeping my eye on this one. I think it's based heavily upon the commercial aspects of a city and Sacramento isn't one of those cities people get excited about restaraunts so it will probably be a while before I see it.

    I don't mean to pull this thread off topic. I was really wanting to see what is it about web browsing that I missed. Like I said novelty or need is where I'm consfused because everyone is so excited about browsing on it I thought it became a must have for "need" reasons. But I think it's novelty. (Which is ok, I have my novelty things too, but again my concern is what am I missing... this thing isn't a novelty obviously so maybe I was using it in the wrong mode or something stupid.) :-)

    James
    Last edited by Kintama; 05/10/2001 at 12:26 AM.
  4. #64  
    I've never used AvantGo for maps, but I get lots of mileage out of the news, magazine and sports sites. The iCurrency page puts up-to-the-minute currency exchange rates in my hand which is really useful in my line of work. I also find that I retain much more of what I read on AvantGo than from a regular web page. I generally scan web-based content but find that I read AvantGo as though it were a magazine or newspaper. Over time I actually forget whether I read an article from AvantGo or a newspaper or magazine.

    AvantGo would be even cooler if it had a handy "Cache this Page" feature so that you could store a specific article and not lose it on the next synch.

    It would be really, really cool if AvangoGo would partner with a golf site that would download course statistics, then upload my scores for handycap analysis. Hell, I'd even pay for that...
  5. #65  
    With AvantGo 4.0 you can save pages. Just tap Menu, Edit and Copy. The text from the page will then be saved to your Memo pad.
  6. #66  
    Is there a channel that will give me up to a weeks of movie times at once?

    I currently use Hollywood.com but it only has one day. I think someone suggested Yahoo, but I will not use them (personal preference)
  7. #67  
    Originally posted by Kintama
    What am I missing about web browsing on the Palm OS? It's really novelty for the most part right?
    James
    No! AvantGo is my favorite Palm OS app. I download newspapers, have discontinued magazine subscriptions. I get updates on things I want. Now, mapquest has some utility, but that's not the type of thing that justifies the existence of the product. OTOH, Economist, Sporting News, NY Times, CNN, etc....I step on a bus and have half of my magazines and newspapers in my palm.
    If it doesn't have a slot for SDHC--I don't want it. Period.
  8. #68  
    This is for **** Richardson,

    AHA...finally, I know something you don't.
    Hotmail requires ie 5.5 and up(for vbvbvb $scripting$?).
    Avantgo uses their OWN browser so that's why you can't access hotmail. Use browse-it instead. It's at intellisync. Free for now.

    http://www.intellisync.com/a1_aboutus.shtml

    As of Monday, I'm a 'Prismer of Love'
  9. #69  
    Originally posted by gbgood
    This is for **** Richardson,

    AHA...finally, I know something you don't.
    Hotmail requires ie 5.5 and up(for vbvbvb $scripting$?).
    Avantgo uses their OWN browser so that's why you can't access hotmail. Use browse-it instead. It's at intellisync. Free for now.

    http://www.intellisync.com/a1_aboutus.shtml

    As of Monday, I'm a 'Prismer of Love'
    Thanks, but I already knew that. j/k

    I'm on a mac so the solution isn't so easy. AvantGo doesn't offer a secure connection with the Mac OS and Browse-it requires windows as well. It makes sense that Hotmail would be impressively difficult to get to using a mac and Palm OS device. If I were running windows and using WinCE device, I imagine it would be much simpler. Microsoft can hold their breath.
    -Joshua
    I've decided to become enigmatic.
  10. #70  
    Has anyone be having problems getting hooked up to SinPalm via Avantgo the past couple of days? I received an error message that reads...Avantgo closed the connection to this page because it was idle too long.

    Is it my visor settings or is it Avantgo?

    Thanks!....magic
  11. #71  
    It's AvantGo. I talked to a couple people I know in the Chicago office and they are having DNS problems with some of their channels.

    um... I asked about SinPalm and he was pretty short with me. Is SinPalm a channel for AvantGo because I didn't see it listed and it sounds Adult-ish, in that I didn't think AvantGo allowed Adult channels.
  12. #72  
    It's a create your own channel that I caught wind of from one of the discussion threads on fav. avantgo channels. You are correct it is for "mature" audiences.

    thanks for the info...

    magic
  13. #73  
    SWEEET
  14. #74  
    Well, I am sorry... you intrigued me. I did a little research and found this for you on their Yahoo Group...

    Dear SinPalm Users,
    It appears that the problem with the AvantGo DNS servers has been
    resolved and the SinPalm channel is no longer getting the time out or Bad
    Host error.
    I haven't heard from AvantGo yet so I'm not sure what exactly caused
    this problem. But I noticed the AvantGo servers stopped sending an error on
    the SinPalm channel about 8:23pm.

    Paul
    PK Entertainment Support
    http://www.sinpalm.com
    pkesupport@singate.com
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