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  1.    #1  
    Hello,

    I've read in the DateBk5 manual that DateBk5 can be put in ROM and the built-in DateBook application can be removed.

    In that case it's necessary to replace the built-in DateBook with a provided utility called dbAlarm, that will allow Hotsync to sync the calendar database.

    I just want to know if someone already tried this on a Treo 650 ?
    Does it really work ?

    Thanks,

    stipus

    Can DateBk5 run in Rom?

    Yes. If you have TRG’s FlashBuilder, FlashPro, JackFlash or other Flash utility you can load DateBk5 into Flash Rom. If you do this, make sure that you leave the DateBk5DB preference database in RAM. Note: make sure that you do a soft reset after moving DateBk5 to flash as the utilities that move applications typically do NOT address the issue that the Palm OS tracks a pending alarm with an absolute memory address to go to and if the application is moved, the palm OS leaps into cyberspace when the alarm goes off and crashes. If you use a utility like JackSprat that actually removes the built-in datebook application, remember that you must install dbAlarm in order to be able to hotsync properly (dbAlarm will provide an application with the CreatorID of ‘date’ that the conduit needs to see to know that it has to hotsync the datebook database.
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    I'm not sure but I think most programs such as Datebk use the Palm Date Book as it's base. I din't think Datebk would run without the Palm Date Book.
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    The previous post is an extract from Datebk5 manual. If the developer says so, I think we can believe him. By the way, he is also the developer of DateBk+ (on all Handspring phones... etc so he must be very knowledgeable).

    I just wanted to know if someone already tried this on a Treo 650, because it may not work exactly as on other Palms.

    Thanks,

    stipus
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    My Bad, as they say. I didn't pay attention to the detail in your post.

    Good deal.
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    Jackflash is unsupported.
    http://www.handera.com/Products/ROMCrafter.aspx

    Even Handeras 1,500.00 Rom crafter only goes up to Treo 300

    I know a 600 user that tried it and it didnt work.
    Pitty

    Ow well shadowmites free tool works perfect
    http://shadowmite.com/roms.html

    But shadowmite dosent list the built in date book as safe to remove
    http://www.shadowmite.com/filelist.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tem
    Jackflash is unsupported.
    http://www.handera.com/Products/ROMCrafter.aspx

    Even Handeras 1,500.00 Rom crafter only goes up to Treo 300

    I know a 600 user that tried it and it didnt work.
    Pitty

    Ow well shadowmites free tool works perfect
    http://shadowmite.com/roms.html

    But shadowmite dosent list the built in date book as safe to remove
    http://www.shadowmite.com/filelist.pdf
    The original poster probably doesn't intend to use JackFlash; I assume he's preparing to go through the Custom ROM process.
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    The original poster probably doesn't intend to use JackFlash; I assume he's preparing to go through the Custom ROM process.
    Thank you... the post is titled custom ROM & DateBk5 & ...

    Of course I know that removing the built-in DateBook will not work as-is... but I'm wondering if we can replace it with Datebk5 + dbAlarm as the DateBk5 developer says this can work on standard palm devices.

    I also know very well the shadowmite safe-to-remove file list...

    [EDIT] I just wrote a message directly to the developer, to know if this has been tested on the Treo 650.

    Thanks,

    stipus
    Last edited by stipus; 10/05/2005 at 01:53 PM.
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    OIC, sorry

    Wow, thanks for that link,, thats awsome Bill
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    I don't know if it will work or not, but I would caution you that Datebk5 has not had a major update in a really long time, mostly just bug fixes for new handhelds. I know that the passage in the manual you quoted has been in there a long time and was originally assuming the person is using a handheld from several years ago, using JackFlash to update the ROM. Maybe the information still applies to modern PDAs like the Treo650, and custom ROMS, etc. but it's also possible that it's old information that was never taken out or clarified when it ceased to be accurate. The developer is usually pretty meticulous, but that particular passage refers solely to an older generation of apps and that worries me that maybe it hasn't been updated in years.

    JackFlash vs. custom ROM might not make much difference, what I would be worried about is how the new PIM databases might differ from the old, which would affect how the dbAlarm patch works.
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    You are right. That's exactly my point. It seems to be ok for older palms, but I'm really not sure for the 650, and as I don't want to toast my phone, I need a confirmation before trying. I asked Pimlico Software and I'm waiting for their answer.

    Thanks,

    stipus
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    I reckon DateBK 6 can't be far away now, what with Agendus' latest update.
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    For me, I can't see a reason for DateBk to update. Why change what's not broken, and is perfect. Only thing is maybe to make it more userfriendly for 5way navigation, but that's minor.

    To the original poster, I've also thought about the same thing and was also curious if it would work, but am also nervous about trying.
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    Here is a post on 9/25/05 from CESD regarding Datebk6. Not quite ready for primetime, but sounds like it's getting close. Better to wait and release a stable product rather then throw out buggy software. Gotta admire CESD's thoroughness.


    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pimlic.../message/54885
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwman
    Here is a post on 9/25/05 from CESD regarding Datebk6. Not quite ready for primetime, but sounds like it's getting close. Better to wait and release a stable product rather then throw out buggy software. Gotta admire CESD's thoroughness.


    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pimlic.../message/54885
    It's great to hear that CESD is working on a new version. He is truly one of the best developers on the Palm platform, sort of the anti-Iambic. I'm not surprised that he's holding back until his app is bug-free (or close to it). Unfortunately, I switched to Agendus about a year ago because it had been so long since DB5 saw an update, and I was looking for more features and DB5 seemed to be running out of steam. LeeD makes a good point that DB5 was already full-featured and largely bug-free, so it didn't really need an update to excell at what it already was. But I wanted an app that took advantage of the fact that I had a device newer than a Visor Deluxe, so I went to Agendus, which has more features, but also many more bugs, and one of the most unresponsive developers I've ever heard of.

    So it's kind of a toss-up. But I'm very happy to hear that CESD is still working on DB6, and I'll be sure to check it out once it's available.
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    Any word on how well DateBk6 works in ROM?

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