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    hey all,

    I've been frustrated by the lack of mobile content and particularly the lack of good, easy to navigate, local search for the Treo. I was tired of waiting, so I built a simple web site that retrieves regular web content more easily on the Treo. The core feature is a local search (businesses, maps, directions, movies, weather, etc), but with a little customization, you can search/retrieve content from just about any site.

    I need some T650 users to test the site, point out bugs and give feedback. Anyone is welcome to use it. I call it "ZYPd"... the URL is:

    http://www.zypd.com

    Thanks, and hope it is useful to the Treo community.

    andy

    PS Sorry to post this in the hardware forum, but there is no forum for mobile web site discussion... or did I miss it?
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    Any reason T600 users can't use the site?
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    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas
    Any reason T600 users can't use the site?
    I'm sure you can use it. It's probably formatted for a 320x320 screen though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas
    Any reason T600 users can't use the site?
    Actually, I have a T600 and it was tested using that so, yes, you can definitely use it on a T600. It is actually designed to work on a 160x160 screen. Since I don't have a T650, I was looking for those that do to test it to see how it works. All T600 users should feel free to use it and provide feedback as well if they wish.

    It is designed to work on even the most basic of browsers (including non-Javascript browsers). As a matter of fact, a friend of mine has used it successfully on a Blackberry.
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    Just poked around. Worked fine. Used the Weather lookup, also noticed you had a "Raider News" link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insertion
    Just poked around. Worked fine. Used the Weather lookup, also noticed you had a "Raider News" link.
    Thanks. I suspect the graphics (whether weather or maps) look a lot clearer on a T650 than on the T600!

    Yes, there is a RaiderNews link ... Perhaps I'll have to add some other team news links to be "fair and balanced"... I'm open to suggestions... or people can "roll their own" with the custom feature (takes a little experimenting to understand how the custom feature works but it is pretty easy and handy once you get the hang of it).
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    This has potential to be pretty cool. However, the weather feature is too graphics intensive; therefore, making it rather slow to load. It serves as a reminder that you are surfing at speeds closer to dial-up.

    I think the concepts and content are great, but making it a little less graphical would be better. To really drive home the point, compare the mobile sites for E-bay and Amazon. E-bay comes up in a snap while Amazon takes much longer to load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pheath
    This has potential to be pretty cool. However, the weather feature is too graphics intensive; therefore, making it rather slow to load. It serves as a reminder that you are surfing at speeds closer to dial-up.
    Thanks for the feedback. I think you are right. The current weather feature uses CNN weather which is graphics intensive... good in that viewing the satellite and radar maps on the Treo can be handy, bad in that it takes longer to load. So I created a "custom ZYP" form that instead retrieves the weather from NOAA's National Weather Service (NWS), which has good detailed text forecasts. I put it in the ZYPd directory under the "Weather" heading along with a link to a CNN Weather search as well. Assuming the NWS search turns out to well for most people (after some testing), I'll switch the default weather feature (accessible at the ZYPd home page) to the NWS text-based weather, and then for those that want the graphics, they can use the CNN Weather custom form.

    Here is the ZYPd custom directory. Weather links are at the bottom:

    http://www.zypd.com/directory.aspx

    Thanks again!
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    Wow! That's what I call service! The new site is *much* quicker. Thanks!

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    Glad it works for you. I designed the site so that it typically only takes a couple of minutes to setup a "custom ZYP" that retrieves content from just about any web site (some sites are a little trickier). With a little "practice" (and reading of the help section), anyone can create their own using the Custom feature (and submit them to the ZYPd directory!)...
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    Good concept! Using Web Pro, when I switch it to Directions, I have 3 fields, rather than just 2: Whata^, Wherea^, and Toa^

    (oh, and btw...all the labels have a^ after them)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorea
    Good concept! Using Web Pro, when I switch it to Directions, I have 3 fields, rather than just 2: Whata^, Wherea^, and Toa^

    (oh, and btw...all the labels have a^ after them)
    I don't have Web Pro to test it, but try this:

    Do you have Javascript turned off in Web Pro? If so, try turning it on. Does that work?

    If not, or if you don't want to turn on Javascript, you can access the non-Javascript version (I made that for Blackberries) by going to this URL:

    http://www.zypd.com?f=1

    If you have JSJSJS $on$ $but$ $it$ $doesn$'$t$ $dynamically$ $change$ $the$ $fields$, $it$ $may$ $be$ $that$ $WebPro$ $Javascript$ $doesn$'$t$ $support$ $some$ $Javascript$ $dynamic$ $HTML$ $features$. $I$'$ll$ $try$ $to$ $look$ $into$ $that$.

    The "^a" must be the non-breaking space that I have after the labels for formatting purposes. Don't know why Web Pro displays it as "^a", but it isn't that important so I removed it from the labels. Hopefully that should remove the "^a". Let me know if it doesn't.


    In case you are wondering: I use Javascript to dynamically change the form inputs and labels depending on what search type is chosen. The non-JSJSJS $version$ $has$ $to$ $send$ $the$ $request$ $back$ $to$ $the$ $server$ $which$ $takes$ $longer$, $so$ $using$ $the$ $JS$ $version$ $is$ $a$ $lot$ $faster$. $I$ $automatically$ $detect$ $if$ $your$ $browser$ $is$ &$quot$;$JS$-$capable$&$quot$; $and$ $direct$ $you$ $to$ $either$ $the$ $JS$ $or$ $non$-$JS$ $page$. $However$, $I$ $can$'$t$ $tell$ $if$ $your$ $JS$-$capable$ $browser$ $actually$ $has$ $JS$ $turned$ $ON$ $without$ $slowing$ $down$ $the$ $experience$ $for$ $everyone$, $so$ $I$ $don$'$t$ $do$ $it$. $But$ $I$ $updated$ $the$ $page$ $to$ $just$ $show$ $you$ $a$ $note$ ($with$ $a$ $link$ $to$ $the$ $non$-$JS$ $version$) $if$ $your$ $browser$ $is$ $JS$-$capable$ $but$ $you$ $have$ $it$ $turned$ $off$.

    btw, if you don't want to turn on JSJSJS $but$ $still$ $want$ $to$ $use$ $the$ $faster$ $version$, $the$ $JS$-$version$ $will$ $still$ $work$ $even$ $with$ $JS$ $turned$ $off$ $but$ $you$ $just$ $have$ $to$ $know$ $what$ $to$ $enter$ $in$ $which$ $field$ ($eg$, &$quot$;$What$&$quot$; $is$ $either$ $business$ $name$ $or$ $category$ $or$ $movie$ $title$, &$quot$;$Where$&$quot$; $is$ $the$ &$quot$;$From$&$quot$; $for$ $directions$, $depending$ $on$ $the$ $search$ $type$).
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    Quote Originally Posted by pheath
    Wow! That's what I call service! The new site is *much* quicker. Thanks!
    The text-based weather search has been working pretty well so I changed the default weather search to use that text-based search. Access it via the home page:

    http://www.zypd.com

    If you bookmarked the previous NWS Weather search, I recommend that you use the search from the home page now instead, as it has more "intelligence" behind it.

    The CNN forecast and maps (ie, the one with more graphics) search is now accessible through the directory:

    http://www.zypd.com/directory.aspx

    Thanks for the feedback!
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    This is great! Keep the good stuff coming.

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    Just treid to get directions from Waterloo to Camden (London)... I now know how to get from Waterloo to Camden in alabama!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaydnH
    Just treid to get directions from Waterloo to Camden (London)... I now know how to get from Waterloo to Camden in alabama!
    Woops! Forgot to mention the location-based searches are for US only as of now. It makes its best guess based on the location information you put in. It is pretty good at guessing... if it's in the US!

    But if you ever find yourself in Alabama, you'll know how to get around.
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    Just wanted to let everyone know:

    - the Movie and Theater search has been updated, now utilizes Google's movie search instead of NY Times (it just works better) but still has map and direction links through the ZYPd interface

    - the Business search was down a bit for maintenance but is now active again

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