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  1.    #1  
    Is there a difference between poking the reset hole VS. removing the battery VS. tapping reset from Zlauncher, MReset or Uninstall Manager.
    It seems odd to pull out the stylus to poke that little hole when its faster and easier to pull the battery back a bit, just far enough to break contact.
    Sprint support says removing the battery is the same as doing a soft reset and we all know they know what their talking about ;-)
    I had avoided using an app to reset for feal that it just wasn't the same. Thinking also that it was always better to reset with the radio off and not with in an app.
    So, does anyone feel there a difference between these 3 methods?
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    I usually use the battery method.
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    The visible results (reset process, subsequent DB Cache size, etc) are the same, AFAICT, for all three methods. I use the software (mReset, Launcher X) and battery methods almost exclusively. I only use the stylus for hard and warm resets.
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    Same: I always use the remove battery method. So far, no problems at all!
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    I use SoftReset amost exclusively, unless the phone has locked up. Then I poke the hole.

    I avoid jostling the battery, in case that loosens the contacts or something. No big deal to use the stylus to do the reset.. the battery cover's off anyway.
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    I mostly use the stylus to poke the hole, but the battery thing works well, too. I didn't think there was much of a difference.
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    I use mReset unless the Treo becomes unresponsive, then I use the reset hole or take battery off. You can also hard reset treo by using mReset and pushing red phone button, then release red button after you see the round Palm logo.
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    Same thing with SoftReset. You can also press the Up on the 5-way while resetting using this to do a warm reset (like before backups).
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    Aprasad, you do a warm rest before back ups?

    What's the procedure:
    1) Turn off radio.
    2) Warm reset.
    3) backup
    4) reset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamespaulritter
    Aprasad, you do a warm rest before back ups?

    What's the procedure:
    1) Turn off radio.
    2) Warm reset.
    3) backup
    4) reset.
    No need for 1).

    The warm reset takes 15 seconds.. no opening of the back required with Softreset or other software methods of doing a reset. And on warm reset, the radio (or anything!) won't come on automatically. In fact, you can't even turn on the radio or BT. Even system modules don't get loaded.

    So, steps 2, 3, 4 is it.
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    I think the stylus poke method simply disconnects the power for a second or so. As such, it is most likely identical in cause and effect to removing the battery.
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    Sometimes my Treo locks up (imagine that) and I need to perform a soft reset to pull it out of the "white screen of death". I have gotten into the habit of opening the case and just lifting the battery slightly, which resets the phone instead of pulling out the stylus to press the little reset pin.

    Does anyone think this is a problem? Should I stop being lazy and pull out the stylus?
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    It shouldn't be a problem to use the battery, although this doesn't work when the treo is charging.

    By the way, this is the 2nd or 3rd time this exact topic has appeared in this forum this week. Perhaps you should search next time.
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    I poke the hole, cause I guess I'm afraid of wear on the battery's contacts. I do a reset about once a week, when my Treo won't wake up.
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    Deepest apologies - I like to think that I keep up to date with all threads using the "New Posts" and I obviously missed this one.
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    I've noticed one difference between poking the switch and removing the battery, which is when you do a hard reset. If you use the first method, the phone retains the time and date. If you use the second, then the time is reset to a default value (I think Jan 1, 2004, but I can't remember for sure). I'm guessing that this is some remnant related to the "battery disconnect reset" that the Treo 600 has.
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    I've been having problems with a newly replaced 650 that frequently gets stuck while in its "off" state and won't come on when I push any of the buttons. I'm doing the usual troubleshooting to figure out what's wrong, but one thing I've noticed when this problem occurs is that when I put the stylus in the reset hole it resets but gets stuck on the gray and white Palm screen and never completes the reset. On the other hand, removing the battery for a second or two causes a successful reset. Do ya'll think that means there's a slight difference between the two methods, or should I take that as evidence pointing to a bad battery or other bad hardware in my particular unit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ldoron
    I've noticed one difference between poking the switch and removing the battery, which is when you do a hard reset. If you use the first method, the phone retains the time and date. If you use the second, then the time is reset to a default value (I think Jan 1, 2004, but I can't remember for sure). I'm guessing that this is some remnant related to the "battery disconnect reset" that the Treo 600 has.
    I took the battery out for the first time yesterday and noticed that the date and time needs re-entering also. I think I will continue to use the stylus method (or reset from Zlauncher).
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    Quote Originally Posted by markinbright
    I've been having problems with a newly replaced 650 that frequently gets stuck while in its "off" state and won't come on when I push any of the buttons. I'm doing the usual troubleshooting to figure out what's wrong, but one thing I've noticed when this problem occurs is that when I put the stylus in the reset hole it resets but gets stuck on the gray and white Palm screen and never completes the reset. On the other hand, removing the battery for a second or two causes a successful reset. Do ya'll think that means there's a slight difference between the two methods, or should I take that as evidence pointing to a bad battery or other bad hardware in my particular unit?
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