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    My girlfriend recently bought an IPOD and started using iTunes on my computer. It seems that since then I have had some weird SD card problems. It could just be coincidence.

    But I delete files from my SD card (using a card reader) and then when I load the card into the 650, the files have re-appeared. I've had this happen several times in a row. I've also had my card read as full even though it a couple hundred meg left. This usually happens after I delete a large number files (I think it thinks they are still there) It is driving me crazy.

    I know someone else was going through this but I can't find their post.

    Anyone know the solution? Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrislrob
    ...But I delete files from my SD card (using a card reader) and then when I load the card into the 650, the files have re-appeared...
    What files? Why do you think they have "re-appeared"?
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    Bill, I delete, say, an mp3 file from my card via my computer and a card reader. Then when I put the card back in the phone, I pull up my mp3's and the song I deleted is there. Or at least it's name. They usually won't play, but the name is there. Sometimes it says, "File can't be played--Corrupted" or the like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrislrob
    Bill, I delete, say, an mp3 file from my card via my computer and a card reader. Then when I put the card back in the phone, I pull up my mp3's and the song I deleted is there. Or at least it's name. They usually won't play, but the name is there. Sometimes it says, "File can't be played--Corrupted" or the like.
    You didn't say which application you're using to play mp3s. If you're using PocketTunes, you should go to the Choose Songs screen and change the category drop-down to All; that'll force a rescan of your card.
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    Hmmm... Perhaps your MP3 player is looking at a cached list of songs or a play list?

    As for the card saying it's full when it isn't: I've seen this behavior on older computers running DOS... How many files do you have sitting in the root (top-most directory) of the card? The SD cards use a File Allocation Table (FAT) file system. That system has a limitation on the number of entries that can be in the root directory. I believe it was 512 entries. Even if you had gigabytes of free space left on the drive, the system would tell you it was full because it couldn't write any more entries to the root of the FAT.

    I'm not sure if this still applies with the SD card, but it's something to look at.
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    I have like 5 files.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrislrob
    I have like 5 files.
    Well, it was just a shot in the dark.

    BTW, folders also count as root entries, so if you had 507 folders and 5 files all sitting in the root, you'd hit the 512-entry point and not be able to save anything.

    Sorry. I don't have any other ideas at this point.
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    Thanks, Insp G.

    I think I may have a virus or something. It is all very strange and very recent.
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    Did you make sure to go through the 'Safely Eject HW' process before pulling the SD card out of your card reader (as opposed to just pulling it out)?

    I have had problems where my card gets corrupted when I haven't done this (or rather when it wouldn't let me). I think this behavior is dependent upon your desktop OS and also the card reader you are using.
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    TimR, I'm using XP and no, I don't "safely eject". Hmmm... Maybe you're on to something. How did you fix the corruption?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Gamble
    You didn't say which application you're using to play mp3s. If you're using PocketTunes, you should go to the Choose Songs screen and change the category drop-down to All; that'll force a rescan of your card.

    Bill - just an OT question - have you left AeroPlayer for Pocket Tunes? If so (- or if you are using them both) how would you compare them?
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    Copy the files off. Reformat your card FAT16. Then copy the files back on. This will fix it. If you encounter errors during the copy off then you'll know what directory entry was screwed up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jorang
    Bill - just an OT question - have you left AeroPlayer for Pocket Tunes? If so (- or if you are using them both) how would you compare them?
    I don't want to hijack this thread, but...I use both. I was an early adopter of both (I have "lifetime upgrades" licences for each): I bought Aeroplayer for it's superior playback of music files and PTunes for streaming. I have to admit though, that because I stream music so often, I've moved Aeroplayer to the card and often use PTunes to play mp3s, just because I'm used to launching it.
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    Is formatting FAT16 something that doesn't happen when I use the phone "card info" app to format the card?

    How do I do it?
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    Using the "Card Info" app to format the card will format it correctly (FAT16).
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