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  1.    #1  
    I have seen lots of posts asking about this. This is the way I do it, and it works for me. Your mileage may vary.

    • Download and install FairUse Wizard on your PC. The free limited version is good enough for this purpose.
    • Download and install TCPMP to your Treo 650. I put it on my SD card and it works great.
    • Pop your DVD in your DVD drive (duh).
    • Open FairUseWizard.
    • From top to bottom on the first form, going left to right:
    • Under Preferences, select XviD
    • Audio track: English (or I guess you could choose another language)
    • I set the next dropdownlist to "OGG", and the rate to 32 Kb/s
    • Under Subtitles track, I just leave it blank (I think there is a "." in it)
    • The checkbox for "Use TV display mode" is checked.
    • Final file size is 200 MB (or bigboy650 suggests 1.78MB/min of the movie)
    • I leave the checkbox for "Rotate 90 degrees" blank. Suit yourself on this one.
    • Output file segments should be 1.
    • I normally leave the two checkboxes at the bottom unchecked. I guess you could have it shut down the computer when done, if you wish.
    • I clicked the "Options" button on the right and set my destination folder to "C:\Movies" to make the output file easy to find.
    • Click the "Next" button at the bottom right.
    • In the "Name" textbox, type the name of this project. I usually name it something short, like an abbreviated name for the movie. In this case, I am ripping Star Wars Episode II, so I'm naming it "StarWars2".
    • Set the Folder: textbox to the path that you want for the output file, if it isn't already.
    • Click the "Next" button.
    • A dialog will pop up. If you have already inserted the DVD, just click "OK". If you have an ISO of the DVD, browse to that file using the "Browse" button, then click "OK".
    • On the next window, click on the chain that looks like it is long enough to be the entire movie. In my case it is 2:22:21 in duration.
    • I have the "Hide chains shorter than 60 seconds" checked.
    • I also have the radio button beside "Cache the selected program chains (multisession)" checked.
    • Click the "Next" button.
    • You will have to wait a little bit while the chain is indexed. For me, this step was about 40 minutes. At least it said it was going to be 40 minutes. I didn't time it.
    • On the next screen that pops up, first you can set the range of frames that you want included in your movie in the upper left. You can move the slider under the movie for a preview, so you can find the beginning of the credits, for example, if you want to end it there.
    • Under that, you can set the cropping region. I usually set the left at 150 and the right at 569, but you can suit yourself on this one. I like a "full screen" view as opposed to a "widescreen" view.
    • I generally take all of the defaults at the bottom of the screen and click the "Next" button.
    • On the next window, I click the "Auto detect" button and follow its recommendation. This time it was "IVTC mode".
    • Click the "Next" button.
    • On the next window, I set the resolution to "320 x 288". You might get some different options, but remember the T650 screen is 320 x 320.
    • Final file size: 200 MB. (or bigboy650 suggests 1.78MB/min of the movie)
    • Output File Segments: 1
    • Split at every chapter: unchecked
    • I don't change video or audio on this window.
    • The only checkbox in the "Resolution" group that I check is "Use TV display mode".
    • Click the "Next" button".
    • The next step takes a couple of hours.
    • I am going to bed now, so I am going to check the "Shutdown computer when done" checkbox.
    • Copy the file with the .ogm extension to your SD card using a card reader or some other method.
    • TCPMP will play the movie if you have the codec for .ogm files. See messages below regarding the plug-ins.


    I will edit this post tomorrow if I have left anything out. . . Someone else please step through the process and check me out. Let me know if I need to make any changes. Or if you have found some better settings.

    I am assuming that you have purchased the movie. Otherwise this would be illegal, I think, or at least immoral.

    Have fun!

    Tony
    Last edited by Tonylmiller; 07/29/2005 at 01:22 PM.
  2. #2  
    Tony,

    Wow, you sure spent some time writing your instructions! Thanks for doing that. I wish this was available a couple weeks ago before I gave up trying to figure out the FairUse program. Out of frustration, I ended up purchasing Pocket DVD Studio from Handango.com which I'm currently using. By the way, this program is very easy to figure out, even without reading instructions. If I can figure out your FairUse instructions, it would be great to have 2 different movie burners.

    By the way, I have also burned all 3 Star Wars movies from the original trilogy. Personally, I've noticed that the minimum size necessary for decent viewing is a 300MB file size for Star Wars 1. I also tried burning at a smaller 200MB file size, but the viewing quality was noticeably deteriorated.

    What is your experience with a 200MB file size using FairUse with Star Wars 1? I'm curious to know. At the highest maximum quality level, I end up getting a file size slightly larger than 500MB, which is pretty huge actually! Probably overkill too!

    I will try to burn Star Wars 1 using FairUse, and see if the viewing quality is any better or worse compared to using Pocket DVD Studio.

    By the way, one cool feature of Pocket DVD Studio is the ability to burn a movie at higher brightness level settings. For example, with Star Wars 1 (original movie), I have found that burning that particular movie at +1 brightness setting positively looks better when viewing from my Treo 650. At the 0 (zero) default brightness setting, there are too many scenes in Star Wars 1 that are simply too dark. For example, the scene near the end before the last big battle, Luke Skywalker and Han Solo are having a talk. Solo is packing up his reward, and Luke is trying to persuade Solo to stay behind to fight, and Solo responds by saying it like suicide to battle the Death Star. That whole entire dialogue scene is noticeably dark on my Treo 650 screen, and their faces are also too dark. However, when I burn the movie at +1, this same dialogue scene is noticeably brighter and looks much better. There are many other scenes that also benefit from an increased brightness level.

    Anyway, does FairUse also have an increased brightness setting? Just curious.

    Thanks, Casey.
  3. #3  
    Not that you left this out, but as a general guide, I figure that if you alot 1.78 mB per minute, you still get a pretty darn good looking movie and it takes up less space. I like to keep my daughters movies on here, and for a 45 minute VeggieTales, I use 80 meg. The quality is still very, very watchable, but I can get a lot more on my SD card. Of course, your personal viewing opinion is the final answer here, but right now I cannot afford a 2gig SD card, so space is more important right now.

    So for a 90 minute movie, using 1.78mB/min, you simply do 90x1.78=160.2.

    Just my .02
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  4. #4  
    Thanks!
  5. #5  
    Can someone do a step by step for Mac OS X users (Tiger)? That would really be great.
  6.    #6  
    Casey: I was referring to episode numbers. The first movie was episode 4, which I have not ripped yet. I have done episodes 1 and 2, which have worked great.

    My SD card is 256 MB, so I always burn the movies to 200 MB and store them on there one at a time. They look great for me.

    I'm at work right now, and so I don't know about the brightness settings. Maybe someone else can chime in on that.
  7. #7  
    I tried Tonys very detailed instructions. There was only one thing left out and that is the very first step you have to select OPTIONS first. Everything else worked perfectly (I did not see a choice to select 320x288 so I selected 320x218). The problem is transferinng the file to my Palm. The install tool rejected it becuase the .ogm extension is not one that it recognizes. I don't know how to convert it to a different extension and I don't know how to get it to my Treo without the install tool, so I am stuck on the last step.

    FYI: Fair use can be downloaded at http://www.fairusewizard.com and TCPMP can be had at http://tcpmp.corecodec.org/download
  8.    #8  
    I have a card reader that I use to transfer the movie file to the card.

    I did mention the "Options" button about 10 steps down. . .
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    Use a card reader or CardExport II to copy the .avi files to your SD Card. Don't use hotsync
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  10. #10  
    Quote Originally Posted by santa
    Use a card reader or CardExport II to copy the .avi files to your SD Card. Don't use hotsync
    Ok, I wasn't thinking. I have a card reader as well. I transferred it over, fired up TCPMP and clicked on Open files. I navigated to where the file was and it did not appear (It does appear in FileZ so it is there). I assume that the .ogm extension that came out of Fairusewizard is not recognized by TCPMP. I feel that I am very close, but I need to know how to convert the format of the video to something TCPMP will accept. Any ideas?
  11.    #11  
    .ogm files work for me!!
  12. #12  
    I just started using TCPMP yesterday, ogm files work for me too. did you just install the main prc or did you also install the plugins. you'll need the tcpmp_vorbis_plugin.prc for it to work.
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  13. #13  
    Hi Tony,

    I'm trying out your directions for FairUse at this very moment. Yes, it is going to take 45 minutes for the indexing, which I'm on now.

    By the way, in the Preference window, there is an option for Expert mode. If checked, there are other choices. Have you tried these yet? For now, I'm not doing the Expert mode.

    I'm burning the original Star Wars movie now using FairUse at 200MB setting, and am curious to see the viewing quality.

    Will let you know more later. Cheers, Casey.
  14. #14  
    Anybody figure out which video settings...ogm, avi, etc. give the best output?? I guess they'll all be 200MB, eh? But the quality prolly varies little, if any at all.
  15. #15  
    Holy macaroni! It's taking a long, long, loooooong time to burn! The program keeps on saying there is yet another thing more to do. I can't believe how long it's taking!

    No wonder there is a message that says "So maybe you should go away and do something else for awhile". When I first read that message, I laughed. Now the program is laughing at me!

    With Pocket DVD Studio, the program burns the movie in real time, while the movie is playing. As soon as the movie is finished playing, it's all finished burning...simple, and much faster.

    Anyone else experiencing loooooong delays in burning?

    -Casey
  16. #16  
    Quote Originally Posted by dheymann
    Everything else worked perfectly (I did not see a choice to select 320x288 so I selected 320x218).
    I too did not see an option for 320x288 I forget what my resolution options were, but I definitely know that none of my height x width options were even close.

    Quote Originally Posted by dheymann
    The problem is transferinng the file to my Palm. The install tool rejected it becuase the .ogm extension is not one that it recognizes. I don't know how to convert it to a different extension and I don't know how to get it to my Treo without the install tool, so I am stuck on the last step.
    I had the same prob at first, I installed the vorbis plugins and it didnt work. then I said f*ck it...I installed all the damn plugins. It worked for me after that.
  17. #17  
    Bertop and alreadylinked were right. The problem was I didn't install the Vorbis plugins. The minute I did I am watching The Family Guy on my Treo with great sound and video. SInce it is a cartoon, it is probably easier to get high quality video (versus a movie) but I am thrilled. Thanks Tony and everyone for helping me do something great with my Treo for free.
  18.    #18  
    Quote Originally Posted by Casey Cheung

    Anyone else experiencing loooooong delays in burning?

    -Casey
    I'm thinking it took a couple of hours, which is about the same as the length of the movie. So I'm not sure what is going on with yours. How long did it take?
  19. #19  
    Hi Tony,

    It took many, many hours to finish burning. Much longer than the actual movie, which was only slightly longer than 2 hours. The program kept giving different progress reports, which would always take a long time for every step.

    This morning, it finally finished. When I opened my destination folder, I was surprised to find 9 different individual files. A few of them says ".raw" at the end of the file. When I tried clicking onto some of the various files, my Windows Media Player comes up, but I get error messages saying nothing can be read.

    Obviously, something went wrong. I should probably not be getting 9 different individual files...or should I? I'm guessing there should only be 1 movie file instead. I am stumped!
  20. #20  
    Quote Originally Posted by dheymann
    Bertop and alreadylinked were right. The problem was I didn't install the Vorbis plugins. The minute I did I am watching The Family Guy on my Treo with great sound and video. SInce it is a cartoon, it is probably easier to get high quality video (versus a movie) but I am thrilled. Thanks Tony and everyone for helping me do something great with my Treo for free.
    Can you give me the link where you were able to download the plugin? I'm having the same prob as you... Thx.
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