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    If you guys haven't registered the program, I would highly suggest it. For $12.44, it is well worth it. No affiliation, just trying to give someone credit for some great work on a program. I have bought and used several encoders and this one works so much better.
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    I'll definitely consider registering later, but I can't afford to do it right now...I've got other priorities to handle.

    I could have sworn, however, that when I tried to encode the movie at 4/3 aspect ratio (which is fullscreen, no?)...it told me that I had to register. Will try again with another movie later tonight or possibly tomorrow.

    Has anybody else gotten fullscreen to work without paying?
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    #43  
    Quote Originally Posted by grndslm
    Has anybody else gotten fullscreen to work without paying?
    My unregistered copy works fine. By the way 1:1 is the full screen aspect ratio on the Treo. 4:3 will still leave you with resolutions that show horizontal black bars. For the life of me I can't figure out how to get an exact 1:1 ratio. I can get extremely close by overlaying a ruler on the screen and adjusting the cropping to a square. That will give you resolution options close to 1:1. You miss quite a bit of action with 1:1, but I still prefer it on my Treo with such a small screen and all.
  4.    #44  
    Quote Originally Posted by grndslm
    I'll definitely consider registering later, but I can't afford to do it right now...I've got other priorities to handle.

    I could have sworn, however, that when I tried to encode the movie at 4/3 aspect ratio (which is fullscreen, no?)...it told me that I had to register. Will try again with another movie later tonight or possibly tomorrow.

    Has anybody else gotten fullscreen to work without paying?
    This is the section of my original post where I discuss this:

    On the next screen that pops up, first you can set the range of frames that you want included in your movie in the upper left. You can move the slider under the movie for a preview, so you can find the beginning of the credits, for example, if you want to end it there.
    Under that, you can set the cropping region. I usually set the left at 150 and the right at 569, but you can suit yourself on this one. I like a "full screen" view as opposed to a "widescreen" view.
    I've changed both the horizontal and vertical cropping, and it works for me.
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    Those numbers just don't seem that acurate for entering them in manually....I'll have to test them out later. The 4/3 ratio button looks so much easier to press.....4/3 would leave a little black space, but not as much as 16/9. I don't know if I could even consider 1/1, that would cut off way too much of the action.
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    #46  
    Quote Originally Posted by grndslm
    Those numbers just don't seem that acurate for entering them in manually....I'll have to test them out later. The 4/3 ratio button looks so much easier to press.....4/3 would leave a little black space, but not as much as 16/9. I don't know if I could even consider 1/1, that would cut off way too much of the action.
    With a full screen pan and scan DVD or 4:3 TV show, 1:1 is not too bad. With a widescreen DVD, you're definitely missing a lot.
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    Yeah, I like to cut 150 off from each side and then I'm good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kronium
    With a full screen pan and scan DVD or 4:3 TV show, 1:1 is not too bad. With a widescreen DVD, you're definitely missing a lot.
    But a full screen DVD is cutting off the edges from a widescreen....

    When I was first using FairUse to rip Cheech and Chong's Up In Smoke....I only had a widescreen option. So using 1:1 would cut off too much. If I had the option to use Full Screen mode....1:1 would still come out to look the same, would it not?? Either way you're going to be cutting off half of the movie.....but the half you keep will definitely fill up the whole Treo screen.

    I'm finally putting in a movie that has both full screen and widescreen sides to test for myself which one looks the best.
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    As I'm putting in a full screen movie right now, I found out that what you have to register for is selecting custom ranges!! Bigboy was definitely correct! I got an error message and confused that with cropping somehow.

    Anyway, I found that this fullscreen movie is definitely 3/2 aspect ratio. I thought fullscreen was 4/3??
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    Please explain what you mean by custom ranges. I always cut off parts of the beginning and end of the movie. Are you talking about something different?
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    #51  
    Quote Originally Posted by grndslm
    But a full screen DVD is cutting off the edges from a widescreen....
    Yes, but on a pan and scan movie, someone has gone through the entire movie and has continuously centered the full screen on the action.

    A Full screen DVD is 4:3. Are you referring to the 3:2 pulldown process? What DVD is it?
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    I'm re-burning the same movie Star Wars again. But I found nothing in the settings for cropping. How do you guys change the crop to 3/2, or whatever the full screen settings is? Where exactly do you do this in the menu?

    I am doing something a little different this time. In addition to reburning at 500MB instead of 200MB, I also changed the Kb/s setting to maximum, which is something like 320+ (instead of 32). I also clicked on the Enable Expert Mode, and checked the Use Internal XviD Codec box. Additionally, for the Preferred Container choice, I checked the box for AVI (instead of OGM or MKV). I'm curious to see what these settings will give me for viewing quality.

    I'm in the middle of reburning the movie since 5:30pm Pacific Standard Time today, and the status screen currently reads "1 video encoding (0 pending), 1 hours 30 minutes remaining (26 fps)". I am not kidding, this thing has been burning for almost the past 4 hours, and it's still saying it needs another 1 hours 30 minutes?!? Truly, truly, this FairUse program literally takes all day to burn a 2 hour movie! On the other hand, the Pocket DVD Studio program only takes exactly 2 hours to burn and finish, which is exactly the same time length of the movie. This is really puzzling. Oh, well, it's time to go to bed anyway!

    Can others tell me how long it takes to burn a movie using FairUse? Does a 2 hour movie take much longer than 2 hours to burn for you too?

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    #53  
    Quote Originally Posted by Casey Cheung
    Can others tell me how long it takes to burn a movie using FairUse? Does a 2 hour movie take much longer than 2 hours to burn for you too?
    -Casey
    Are you doing 2 passes? When doing so, the first pass examines the movie in detail and determines the most efficient use of the set megabytes for the second pass.(especially action scenes) If there's not too much action, consider a single pass.
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    I did see the choice for either 1 pass or 2 pass. I'm pretty sure I left it alone to whatever the default choice is. I don't think I'm doing 2 passes, but don't know for sure. I just left these boxes alone.
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    Hi Guys,

    The reburn of my movie to 500MB is finished using FairUse. Well, hmmmm...let's see. The viewing quality is a bit more improved versus 200MB. However, I can still clearly see jaggie lines around the edges of most scenes throughout the entire movie. Even at 500MB, the jaggie lines are still very noticeable to me.

    On the plus side, the movie playback using FairUse is very, very smooth, just like the first time. I realize I'm a bit meticulous and nitpicky about viewing quality, which may be extreme. Also, I wish there was a way of increasing brightness levels using FairUse, because the original Star Wars movie is simply too dark in many scenes.

    A few other comments:

    It's still a mystery to me on why it takes so many hours to burn a movie using FairUse. As Kronium mentioned previously, I'm probably inadvertently doing a 2 Pass burn. I need to double check on this.

    I also increased the Kb/s setting to maximum, but I don't notice anything obvious. What is this supppose to do?

    I also checked the Enable Expert Mode and chose the AVI format. However, the finished movie files still came out to be an OGM file instead (no AVI file), so enabling the Expert mode doesn't seem to do anything from what I can tell.

    The bottom line is that FairUse is a very useful program that is best of all, free. I would personally recommend this program to any one who wants a free movie burning program. For myself, I will most likely use the Pocket DVD Studio program instead simply because it suits my tastes a little better.

    By the way, if any one can explain how to do a full screen crop using FairUse, I'm still looking for the answer so I can try this out.

    Thanks, Casey.
  16. #56  
    Quote Originally Posted by Tonylmiller
    Please explain what you mean by custom ranges. I always cut off parts of the beginning and end of the movie. Are you talking about something different?
    Nope...I'm talking about time ranges. I cannot adjust it at all....I'm sure about that one. I mistakenly thought the error message was talking about cropping, but it was range selection alright!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kronium
    Yes, but on a pan and scan movie, someone has gone through the entire movie and has continuously centered the full screen on the action.

    A Full screen DVD is 4:3. Are you referring to the 3:2 pulldown process? What DVD is it?
    Yea, exactly. A fullscreen dvd crops a widescreen movie and turns a 16/9 ratio into a 4/3 ration.....thereby cutting off the edges equally (which makes it centered).

    I tried ripping a fullscreen with 4/3 (the dvd was actually 1.5). Then I flipped the disc over to rip the widescreen side with 4/3 ratio and it had cropped the same exact area of the movie. Then I converted widescreen regularly. Then I tried to get a 1/1 ratio so that it would make it 320x320.

    To do the last one, I 'Auto Set' the cropping region and it found that the movie's regions were as follows: Left - 6, Right - 711, Top - 418, Bottom - 63.....which means the movie's dimensions are 705x355. Since we're trying to get 355x355....you find out that half of 705 is 352.5 and half of 355 is 177.5. Then you subtract 177.5 (the leftmost margin of a 1x1 screen) from 352.5 (the center of the widescreen movie) to get the left margin of our new movie, which is 175...and you add 177.5 to 352.5 to get the rightmost margin, which is 530. I entered 175 and 530 into the cropping area, but when the movie was over....it wasn't quite a 1x1 ratio. I could tell because whenever it asked me what size I wanted to convert it to, 320x240 was my option instead of 320x320. What gives??

    Anyway...conclusion is that widescreen is waaayyy to small for a 320x320 screen and trying to calculate the exact dimensions to get it to 320x320 isn't worth it, and IMO takes off TOO much from the screen. Hitting the "[4/3]" button on the frame region/cropping region page is the easiest and shows just the right image size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casey Cheung
    By the way, if any one can explain how to do a full screen crop using FairUse, I'm still looking for the answer so I can try this out.
    In case you missed it in my above post....you get to the frame range/cropping region page (the last page before it starts to do the serious work...the one that shows you what the actual movie looks like).

    It's in the Cropping region section. Your choices are 'Auto Set', '[4/3]', & '[3/2]'.

    Regardless of whether the movie is fullscreen or widescreen....pressing 4/3 will give you the same exact output for either of them. It's cropping, not squeezing/stretching.

    TV has a 4/3 aspect ratio....I know that for sure. But the fullscreen movie I encoded had a 3/2 ratio. I never even knew there was a 3/2 ratio until yesterday.

    But....I'll be sticking with 4/3 to get my optimum viewing pleasure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grndslm
    Nope...I'm talking about time ranges. I cannot adjust it at all....I'm sure about that one. I mistakenly thought the error message was talking about cropping, but it was range selection alright!
    When I said I was cutting off the beginning and end of the movie, I was talking about time ranges too. I do it every time with the free version. No errors here. . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by grndslm
    Yea, exactly. A fullscreen dvd crops a widescreen movie and turns a 16/9 ratio into a 4/3 ration.....thereby cutting off the edges equally (which makes it centered).
    Cropping a widescreen DVD to 4:3 is going to show different content than watching a Fullscreen Pan and Scan movie. Most full screen movies will be pan and scan. As explained earlier, you will see more of what's going on with a full screen movie which DOES NOT cut off edges equally.

    Also, take note that there are two types of widescreen formats; 1.85:1(essentially 16:9) and 2.35:1. 2.35.1 movies like Lord of the Rings will show black borders even on a widescreen TV because it is a wider aspect movie. Not sure yet how FairUse deals with anamorphic widescreen DVDs.(horizontally compressed, then uncopressed with DVD player)
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