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    I have it on good authority that the cause of the battery drain issue for the Sprint 1.12 update is none other than the bluetooth enhancements. Responding to numerous complaints about the weak bluetooth connection, Sprint and Palm boosted the power to the bluetooth commander. The result - turbo battery drain. I turned off the bluetooth on my phone and, viola, the turbo drain stopped.

    I am interested if others can solve the problem in a similar fashion.
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    I installed Sprint 1.12 and noticed increased battery drain. I keep Bluetooth on 100% of the time, discovery is off, IR Beam Recieve is off. My network connection was on all the time (grey arrows, not green) and I use Chatter e-mail to keep two IMAP mailboxes in sync.

    About a month after doing the the upgrade I ran into some problem that causes my Treo to frequently reboot if I keep Chatter on in the background (this might be a hardware problem). Anyway, I now disconnect from the network when it's not needed and my battery life has increased significantly, along with device stability. Bluetooth is still on 100% of the time.
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    I have still gotten turbo battery drain even with bluetooth AND the phone off. I only use bluetooth with Tomtom, so I wonder that when I turn it off, it still uses power, and just states that bt is off.
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    I get turbo battery drain unless I keep my eye on the connection activity. Most often, Versa mail disconnects properly, and most often verichat does not.

    What happens, is the connection never goes idle long enough to time out and drop. I notice that the green bars come on about every 25 seconds, thus defeating the inactivity timeout.

    If I manually use prefs/network/disconnect then I get superb battery life. I can normally get 11 to 15 hours of mp3 play, book reading, and casual phone use per charge.

    If I fail to catch it on a busy day, I run into the red in 6 to 8 hours of use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeromeGarcia
    I have it on good authority that the cause of the battery drain issue for the Sprint 1.12 update is none other than the bluetooth enhancements. Responding to numerous complaints about the weak bluetooth connection, Sprint and Palm boosted the power to the bluetooth commander. The result - turbo battery drain. I turned off the bluetooth on my phone and, viola, the turbo drain stopped.

    I am interested if others can solve the problem in a similar fashion.
    I'm not sure this is what is causing the battery drain, unless bluetooth is still using battery power even when it's off. I have never used bluetooth on my phone nor do I have it enabled and I experience the battery drain. I've done several things and it somewhat fixed my battery drain problem. After full charge, I need to reset the phone several times after it goes down to 96%. It then goes back up to 99%. I can do this about 3x and after the 3rd time the battery stabilizes. This tells me there is still a battery issue. However if I do this my battery at the end of the day is close to when I use to have 1.08. If I don't reset then there's a significant battery drain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffgrado
    I have still gotten turbo battery drain even with bluetooth AND the phone off. I only use bluetooth with Tomtom, so I wonder that when I turn it off, it still uses power, and just states that bt is off.

    I've also gotten a couple of turbo drains when phone was turned OFF.
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    I had a battery drain issues about 2 weeks ago and I had not used BT in over a week. It had been truned off for an entire week. Also at the time I had 95% battery, turned my phone radio off and went to bed. Woke up to battery warning. 2nd time this has happened.

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    I think there are two different types of turbo drains. One is where the reading of the battery shows lower than it really is (in this type you can reset your phone and it brings it back up to normal reading). The other type is the net connection draining the battery from being on or in use constantly. I have experienced both types on my Treo 650 since the Sprint 1.12 update. Nither has really affected the operation of my treo though, since I don't bring the battery that low very often.
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    I am still having horrible problems also, I talked to *2 spint tech support, and they told me to bring my phone to the local sprint store, and that i will probably need to get a new phone. It is my connection that is staying open i think...I don't know if a new phone would do the same thing or not, but my phone isn't really usable now, b/c even only making a few short calls and checking email a few times, i am in the red in less than 8 hours...if i actually use the phone for other things it is even quicker. And if i disconnect from the internet, it just connects me again. This even happens when my radio is turned off...
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    I bought a 650 for one of our department supervisors and updated it to 1.12 before giving it to him. It came with 1.03. The only additional software installed is Biz Connect and Docs to Go Premium 7.006. He called me today and said that last night he turned the phone off with around 80% charge. He did not plug it in, but everything was off, phone, screen, and he has never turned Bluetooth on. This morning it was in low battery level (red indicator on battery level). He called asking what gives, everything was off and it used more battery than the last two weeks when he left it on.

    So there is definitely something draining batteries periodically. There are too many reporting this same scenario.
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    Meh.. My phone has started doing this out of the blue, 3 weeks after updating. I'm on GSM 1.28 firmware though. Bluetooth on, not discoverable, beam off, and I've also disabled chatter. The thing should be doing pretty much nothing, no data, etc, and no roaming either. But in two hours it dropped 10%, normally right now it'd still be at 99% or 98%.

    Happened two days ago, not sure what I would have done to start this happening, but it sucks. I was at 30% last night at the end of the night after moderate use when I got home.
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    Instead of the drastic measures of reinstalling everything, I decided the problem *must* be one of the programs which run all the time, I still call them 'hacks'.. But things like Butler, VolumeCare, Chatter, etc... So I disabled each of them, and moved them to SD card in ZLauncher, and soft reset. Then I moved them one by one back into ram and re-enabled their settings, minus a few that I really didn't use a lot, and once that was done, soft reset again.

    My fingers are getting sore from crossing them so long, but yesterday I think the drain wasn't there.. It was about 80% when I plugged it in last night with Chatter qsyncing every 45m and regular PDA use, which I think is about normal. Today I've disconnected Chatter and I'll see what it looks like, I'm expecting it to be about 97% when I leave work, if so the drain is definately gone.

    Then I'll re-enable the things I didn't the other day, see if it comes back.. HiLauncher, Crash, QLaunch. Not sure why I still use QLaunch with ZLaunchers QuickLaunch Anywhere feature honestly.

    I'll post back if things come back, or if they stay gone, etc.. Maybe this will be easier for folks to do this when this stuff happens.

    Still be nice to know which applications were 'fighting' which must have been the case.
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    I beleive I'm suffering battery loss since doing the Cingular update. I am using the 2200 battery

    Yesterday I hardly used my Treo and it was at 70% at the end of the day. I had Chatter off line, beam off and bluetooth off. It dropped from 99% to 94% within a few minutes of being off the charger.

    I've been trying to monitor it to see if it's really an issue but my battery life is definetly not as good post update.
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    i don't think the problem is a 3rd party app. As I stated earlier in post #10, this problem has occurred with one of our staff and the only other apps that have been installed is Biz Conn and Docs to Go 7.006 Premium. Twice he has turned the phone off at night and twice the battery has shown to be critically low the next morning. He had the drain happen again last night. I had forgotten to tell him to reset if he has the problem again to be sure it is not a wrong report with the battery icon as stated in another post/thread.
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    I also had this rapid battery drain problem and I removed verichat for one night to test and see if that was causing the problem and I still had terrible battery drain. This has only happened after installing the new bluetoth updates so I am thinking that might be the problem. If anyone finds an exact reason for this, please post it so we can fix it. I missed my alarm the other morning because of this turbo drain problem killing my treo sometime during the night...
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    So far after being off the charger for almost 6 hours I'm still at 99%.. That includes checking the weather online once, putting in a few appointments, getting/sending a few SMS, and reading a book for 30 minutes.

    So seems that what I did either fixed my problem, or I've perhaps isolated the problematic program.. I'll try enabling some of the disabled programs now and see what happens.
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    This just happened to me again last night. 100% battery as I had just fully charged my Treo. I turned off the radio and made sure the screen was off. Went to bed, woke up and battery was at like 5%. So this has now happened three time to me in the past month and a half. Each time my Treo has been completely shut down. Ironically it's the only three times I have shut my phone radio off, I usually leave it on. Could the Treo use more juice when it's off than when it's on? It appears so.

    Recommendation: Leave your Treo on at all times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tcatnat
    This just happened to me again last night. 100% battery as I had just fully charged my Treo. I turned off the radio and made sure the screen was off. Went to bed, woke up and battery was at like 5%. So this has now happened three time to me in the past month and a half. Each time my Treo has been completely shut down. Ironically it's the only three times I have shut my phone radio off, I usually leave it on. Could the Treo use more juice when it's off than when it's on? It appears so.

    Recommendation: Leave your Treo on at all times.
    Have you tried a soft reset to see if it still reports at only a 5% charge? Also you might try a soft reset after completing the charging cycle. Make sure it still reports close to 100% charge. Some of these problems may relate more to the battery charge monitor than to the actual state of charge.
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    i just got my treo and the battery life is pretty bad. bluetooth is off, and i even turned the phone off. i start the day with about 98%, work all day, come to use my treo and the life is at like 30%...amazing
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    Quote Originally Posted by tcatnat
    This just happened to me again last night. 100% battery as I had just fully charged my Treo. I turned off the radio and made sure the screen was off. Went to bed, woke up and battery was at like 5%. So this has now happened three time to me in the past month and a half. Each time my Treo has been completely shut down. Ironically it's the only three times I have shut my phone radio off, I usually leave it on. Could the Treo use more juice when it's off than when it's on? It appears so.

    Recommendation: Leave your Treo on at all times.
    This happen to me too and it is caused by Chatter whenever the radio is turned off. To workaround this problem, before I turn the radio off, I have to "shutdown and disconnect" Chatter first.
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