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       #61  
    I bought my wife a Sprint Sanyo mm-5600 with a 1.3 meg camera. Here is the picture. Now I returned the 5600 phone cause even though the pictures were good as you can see, they are only good outdoors with plenty of light. Indoors they are not as good with the built in LED flash...dissapointing with some blue dots. Now I love my 650, (though I do feel it needs improvements), but I changed the mm-5600 Sanyo for a cheaper camera phone Sanyo 8300 for my wife. I figure I kept the money for the Treo 700. She would never use a Treo...too nerdy for her.

    The 5600 also had MP3, a mini SD card, USB connection, nice things.

    As far as carrying a camera goes, I first got a Sony T7 (4 ounces, about the thickness of a pencil and credit card sized.)

    Fantastic camera. But then I got hooked on the Fuji F10. That $ 280 camera is a revolution cause it can take pictures at ISO 1600. Up to now, most compact cameras would take ISO 200 pictures, meaning indoors you needed flash. At ISO 800 or 1600, you can take indoor pictures with no flash, so at a party you can take pictures without blinding people, and even some candid photos where people do not even know. It also takes fantastic night pictures. It is a 6.3 meg x3 camera with very good resolution (you can see about cameras at www.dpreview.com). Its sensor could be adapted to cell phones, so one could retain good light sensitivity on the cell phone camera. By the way the 650 camera is very sensitive to light...very good in that respect!
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  2. #62  
    God I hate misinformation.. CMOS vs CCD is silly when saying they have differing quality. Hint: Multi-thousand dollar dSLRs use CMOS sensors.
  3. #63  
    I didn't read this whole thread, but all I have to say is, does anyone remember the Samsung series of Palm phones [for Sprint]? The i300, i330, and i500. If I ever had more buggy phones in my life! The Treo 600 and 650, even with all the bugs and memory issues have been the best Palm phones I've ever used, without a doubt.

    -M-
    My Treo: Treo 650, Sprint CDMA. SW: 1.08, HW: A.
    My Plan: $105/mo for 2000 AT, Unlimited N&W starting at 7pm, Unlimited PCS to PCS, No Roaming Charges in the U.S., Unlimited PCS Vision, Unlimited SMS & PictureMail.
    My Stats: Using an average of 50MB of PCS Vision per month. 2,500+ photos in my PCS PictureMail account. Had a Treo 600 since 10/24/03, switched to a Treo 650 on 1/5/05.
  4. #64  
    I remember the i500. Clam shell design right?
    Palm III-->Palm IIIxe-->Palm 505-->Samsung i300-->Treo 600-->PPC 6600-->Treo 650-->Treo 700wx-->BB Pearl--> BB Curve

  5. #65  
    My beef with the 650 isn't that it compares poorly to the competition. Hardly, its still very competitive. No, what bums me out about this phone is how big a setback it is from its predecessor. For 4 generations the Treo just kept getting better and better. Then the 650 comes along and BAM, all that nice polish starts to rub off..
    Quote Originally Posted by grndslm
    HAHAHAHA!!

    How can so many people come on this message board and say that this phone sucks. I mean, I understand that it's not perfect...but just show me something that does what my phone can do AND THEN MORE, and maybe I'll start to whine like the resta yaz.

    BTW...could somebody post pics of other cameraphones that have 1.3MP and 2.0MP resolutions. I just want to see comparisons between those pictures and the pictures that the 650 produces. The pics I take are better than any other cameraphone I've seen.
  6. #66  
    When will the pathetic 650 be bested. . . . .

    Well, if the 650 is pathetic and has not been bested, then that makes the 650 Best in Class and everthing else is more pathetic. . . . .
  7. #67  
    >why is it that in the world of cameras progress is measured in months but in the world of phones it is measured in every two year increments?

    Because thats how long your contract is for
  8. #68  
    This thread is so useless, and I can't believe people are even responding to it...including me! :-)) As for the camera phone quality, why would we want a 5 or 7 megapixel camera included? Do you have any idea how long it would take to email a picture with a file size that large?

    I personally have emailed 2MB picture files with my Sprint Treo 650 (shot from my Canon SD300 pocket digital camera), and it takes more than several minutes to email a large 2MB file. This is waaaaay too long for ordinary use. In fact, I usually have to reduce the picture file size first (if using my Canon SD300 camera), either in camera, or in post processing, prior to emailing a picture. If I reduce the file size in camera, I usually use a smaller setting of 1024 X 768 (or similar) to get a smaller file size of approximately 200 Kb in camera. Or if I reduce the file size with my Treo 650, I use Acid Image Pro program.

    As a previous poster mentioned, a cell phone camera works best in situations with plenty of light. Unless a flash is included, an image usually comes out too dark and grainy in low light situations. A mediocre image is okay for emailing or blogging, but is a waste of time and money trying to make a print from it, especially an enlargement. By the way, I also own and use the Nikon D1x and D100 for years, and own thousands in lenses and lighting gear, so I really have a good idea of what I'm saying. Prior to making any large size prints, I always retouch everything in Photoshop 7 or CS.

    Okay, lastly: Yes, I agree that the Treo 650's built in camera function is pretty lame or mediocre at best. A .3 megapixel camera with no flash is only good for emailing for fun. It would be a joke trying to make a print from it. Actually, I really appreciate the built in Camcorder function more so than the still camera function. I much prefer videos for recording sound and action, which is more fun anyway.

    Just my .02 cents. Now it's my turn to put on my flame retardant suit! :-))
    Cheers, CC.
  9. #69  
    Quote Originally Posted by modma
    all I have to say is, does anyone remember the Samsung series of Palm phones [for Sprint]? The i300, i330, and i500. If I ever had more buggy phones in my life! The Treo 600 and 650, even with all the bugs and memory issues have been the best Palm phones I've ever used, without a doubt.

    -M-
    You said it all right there!
  10. #70  
    Quote Originally Posted by paulshu
    My beef with the 650 isn't that it compares poorly to the competition. Hardly, its still very competitive. No, what bums me out about this phone is how big a setback it is from its predecessor. For 4 generations the Treo just kept getting better and better. Then the 650 comes along and BAM, all that nice polish starts to rub off..
    What exactly was a setback from its predecessor?? The ONLY reason I prefer the 600 to the 650 is whenever you open the phone app, you could get to any of the four apps with one press. I think the scrolling favorites menu inside the 650's phone app is a step back. Other than that, the 650 is sooo much better in every way.
  11. #71  
    Quote Originally Posted by modma
    I didn't read this whole thread, but all I have to say is, does anyone remember the Samsung series of Palm phones [for Sprint]? The i300, i330, and i500. If I ever had more buggy phones in my life! The Treo 600 and 650, even with all the bugs and memory issues have been the best Palm phones I've ever used, without a doubt.

    -M-

    Really? I had the i300 and i330 and loved them both. I really think the i330 was a much better phone -- and far more stable -- than the Treo. But the Treo has so many more features, especially the keyboard, that it's a no brainer (I got the Treo 600 the day it came out in October 03).

    I don't know if the Treo 600/650's stability issues are due to poorer design or more advanced features/requirements. If the former, I would expect Samsung to leapfrog Handspring one of these days with a superior phone. If the latter, I would expect Treo to set the bar for a long time -- because it's got a huge lead over anything else.
  12. #72  
    Setbacks from the 600:
    - Way more buggy. I have/had just about every 650 bug discussed on this board. Can't remember a single bug with the 600. Nor did the boards buzz as much with bugs
    - NVFS memory problem. A complete blunder.
    - Usability problems caused by the redesign of the dialer.
  13. #73  
    Quote Originally Posted by paulshu
    Setbacks from the 600:
    - Way more buggy. I have/had just about every 650 bug discussed on this board. Can't remember a single bug with the 600. Nor did the boards buzz as much with bugs
    - NVFS memory problem. A complete blunder.
    - Usability problems caused by the redesign of the dialer.
    I guess I must be one of the lucky ones...
    I've had my 650 for about a month now and have had no problems with it whatsoever.

    The only dissapointment I have is that the bluetooth headset won't wake the phone up for voice dialing.

    Other than that I love the phone.
  14. #74  
    The only thing I can see "besting" the Treo is an Apple iPod phone. It may not have internet connectivity, though, making the Treo still the champ in this category; but it'll be interesting to see the creature in the final specification.
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  15. #75  
    Quote Originally Posted by mgauss
    No. I like my 650 and use it every day. But there are many things that could improve, and the speed and effectiveness of improvement is slloowwwww......
    Give me a break. I am already on my 7th PDA and my third Treo; fourth if you count the firmware upgrade. I am happy with what I have; I do not envy anyone. I am ready for a little stability. Dear Lord protect me from anymore "improvement."
  16. #76  
    Quote Originally Posted by paulshu
    - Way more buggy. I have/had just about every 650 bug discussed on this board. Can't remember a single bug with the 600. Nor did the boards buzz as much with bugs
    Only bug I've experienced is the SavedPreferences file that vanishes into thin air on occasions...but I've gotten around it since the SavedPreferences file was saved on my desktop and I've got it saved on my SD card for future "mishaps".
    Quote Originally Posted by paulshu
    - NVFS memory problem. A complete blunder.
    It's the first smartphone to have NVFS. As I mentioned in another thread, for that reason I'll give Palm a break. If they ever happen to do it again, then I'll be complaining. But as for now...all carriers now have the NVFS issue solved, so I don't consider this a setback anymore.
    Quote Originally Posted by paulshu
    - Usability problems caused by the redesign of the dialer.
    If you're referring to the shortcuts of the phone app (i.e. - pressing left equals Call log, or whatever it was)...I consider this the ONLY way that the 650 has been setback from the 600. Hopefully Palm will recognize their mistake and put it back to the way it was in the 600. Other than that reason, I'm not seeing any setbacks (that was a pretty minor setback too compared to all the other advantages of the upgrade)...the 650 is miles ahead of the 600.
    Last edited by grndslm; 07/30/2005 at 08:38 PM.
  17. #77  
    Hey my phone sucks too. So...I went out and bought a decent camera, and a Franklin Planner, and a Rolodex, oh and a BIG card file too. Then I added a full size atlas of the United States, I bought a boom box, and a stopwatch, and a laptop to do some email and web and excel, and gantt charting. You should see my muscles from carrying all that stuff. The only problem I've got know, is I need to get a phone of some sort. Anybody recommend one that doesn't have a camera? I've already got one of those. :-)
  18. #78  
    Quote Originally Posted by taointn
    Hey my phone sucks too. So...I went out and bought a decent camera, and a Franklin Planner, and a Rolodex, oh and a BIG card file too. Then I added a full size atlas of the United States, I bought a boom box, and a stopwatch, and a laptop to do some email and web and excel, and gantt charting. You should see my muscles from carrying all that stuff. The only problem I've got know, is I need to get a phone of some sort. Anybody recommend one that doesn't have a camera? I've already got one of those. :-)
    You do gantt charting on your Treo. Man, your eyes must me incredible to read gannt chart information on that small screen.
  19. #79  
    I wish they would lock this thread so it would quit coming up. How many times do we need to go through the same thing? We'll never come to a consensus. I like mine so I'm going to keep it, quirks and all.

    If you hate yours SOOO much, I just found this great site - www.ebay.com.
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  20. #80  
    Quote Originally Posted by bigboy650
    I wish they would lock this thread so it would quit coming up. How many times do we need to go through the same thing? We'll never come to a consensus. I like mine so I'm going to keep it, quirks and all.

    If you hate yours SOOO much, I just found this great site - www.ebay.com.
    I 2nd that motion!
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