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  1.    #1  
    Hello,

    I'm new to this forum, and I just recently purchased the treo650. After searching the forums, I was unable to find what I was looking for, or I just over looked it. I recently tried to order the gps/cradle - arkon cm800, thinking it would work for my treo. I guess that it doesn't. Well I'm assuming since they cancelled my order and he tried to explain something to me about a cable. Anyways, I couldn't understand him so the order stayed cancelled. Below is what I'm looking for:

    I preordered the tomtom nav. 5 software.

    I need a good GPS receiver. I would like to have one built in to a car cradle.

    any help will be appreciated.
    Thank you
  2. #2  
    Seidio makes various car cradles for the Treo 650. For examples, this one has a connector for a serial GPS, but you still need to purchase the GPS.

    https://www.seidioonline.com/Product...e=CK4AG21TR650
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    thank you for getting back to me.. I did see a cradle that I liked from Seidio. I was also looking at this. http://www.semsons.com/stsdgpsforpa.html 650 isn't listed, but it supports sdio cards. do you think this will work with the 650, and also the tomtom 5 that I already bought?

    thanks
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    If the Treo isn't listed it probably won't work, but you should email semsons to check. It will probably require drivers of some sort to get it working and if not listed, it is doubtful that such drivers exist. Have you considered a Bluetooth GPS? That would work almost assuredly. Alternitively, you can get any serial GPS reciever (which can be found for $50 or so) and buy an adapter cable that converts the serial PS2 stylke end to the Treo 650 connector.
  5. #5  
    Quote Originally Posted by theminor
    Alternitively, you can get any serial GPS reciever (which can be found for $50 or so) and buy an adapter cable that converts the serial PS2 stylke end to the Treo 650 connector.
    Is that true? See http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...ad.php?t=79152. Something about needing power for the GPS and the Treo, at least with TT, is not configured to put power out of its pins. I have the BT receiver that comes with TT5, it's great, but doesn't work well alongside my car's built in hands-free setup, so I'm also looking for a wired solution. I'm reluctant to drop money on the Seidio, however, because of all the quality complaints like this: http://discuss.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=90802. Yet I don't see any other solution for powering the wired GPS receiver. Please enlighten me, anyone. Thanks.
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    Right - I don't think the Treo can power a GPS, but I believe I've seen adapters that plug a serial GPS into the treo port and get power from, for instance, a cig. lighter plug in the car. While the Seidio complaints seem valid (I myself had to return my car kit and I'm currently waiting on a replacement), they seem like the best solution right now...
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    Well I just ordered an iTrek S3 with the cable as you've described from Semsons and it shipped same day, I will post results. If it works well, I'll probably add a proclip cradle and just deal with plugging in the treo each time. Not as clean and elegant as the Seidio, but I've read enough to make me uncomfortable trying that solution.
  8. #8  
    Tom Tom 5 is great software, I am using mine on my LifeDrive, and troe650, and its awesome! Using the bluetooth GPS.
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    Well I ended up buying this BT Receiver http://www.expansys-usa.com/product....O_650_GSM_GPRS

    The Tom Tom5 software I order isn't available until the 27th from the website I ordered it from. I guess I should have look around to get it earlier. Anyways, I hope all goes well once I get everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by designer3d712
    Well I ended up buying this BT Receiver http://www.expansys-usa.com/product....O_650_GSM_GPRS
    Yikes, that's a spendy little bugger. Not to suggest that you haven't done your homework, but what made you choose that? Only one BT GPS on this page: http://www.semsons.com/bluetgpsrec.html costs that much (and it comes with some extra software), and if this Pretec only tracks 12 satellites, my guess is it doesn't have the SirfIII chipset, which, in my limited understanding, is the latest and greatest that allows a faster fix and better performance (the TomTom SirfIII BT receiver that comes with the Navigator 5 bundle has 20 channels and can hold a fix while in the closed compartment below the center armrest in my car; others here have reported using it in their glove box). Don't take what I say as gospel, I'm just learning this stuff, so I'd love to hear other perspectives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ntaylor
    Not to suggest that you haven't done your homework, but what made you choose that? Only one BT GPS on this page: http://www.semsons.com/bluetgpsrec.html costs that much
    Well I guess I didn't do my homework. I'm new to any of this, so I can read all I want, and probably still not understand it.

    Quote Originally Posted by ntaylor
    my guess is it doesn't have the SirfIII chipset, which, in my limited understanding, is the latest and greatest that allows a faster fix and better performance
    So I should be looking for a receiver with the SirfIII chipset? Are most of the receivers with SirfIII on the semsons page descent? I can always return the one that I bought.
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    Well, don't make a decision just based on what I write. Take a look at http://www.gpspassion.com and http://www.pocketgpsworld.com for more information, or, a lot of people have raved about the knowledge and service of Semsons, you could email them.
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    I bought my GPS receiver through Semsons: (http://www.semsons.com/glbtgpsrebts.html), using it with a very cheap but good mapping program I found on eBay (just wanted to try the concept out first, and it has been working pretty good!).

    I spent some time looking around here, searching threads on GPS, that's how I found out about Semsons and this particular GPS unit. I've been very happy with it, even works indoors about 90% of the time!
    Palm IIIxe --> Palm 505 --> Kyocera 6035 --> Treo 650 --> Treo 700wx
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    Thanks for the insight WildeMan. I was looking at two of them. The one that you mentioned, and this one http://www.semsons.com/im3blgpsresi.html .
    I'm was leaning towards the one that you have. Looks like I'll be placing an order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ntaylor
    Well I just ordered an iTrek S3 with the cable as you've described from Semsons and it shipped same day, I will post results.
    Please do!!!

    I think this is the solution that makes the most sense for a Treo 650. Although I am still a but confused about the cables and the compatibility of Mapolis NavCard with this setup. On this link http://www.mapopolis.com/carddetails...8718986&p=&q=3 the Treo 650 isn’t listed as a compatible device.
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    The Globalsat seems like one of the best receiver i've seen online. You can bundle it with Tomtom at Semsons site for only $245. Not a bad deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eafenyes
    Please do!!!

    I think this is the solution that makes the most sense for a Treo 650. Although I am still a but confused about the cables and the compatibility of Mapolis NavCard with this setup. On this link http://www.mapopolis.com/carddetails...8718986&p=&q=3 the Treo 650 isnít listed as a compatible device.
    Just finished a four-day trip with the i.Trek S3 and TT Nav 5. The cable that shipped from Semsons that powers the Treo and the GPS and connects the two feels very well built, but the dimensions are kind of goofy, basically it is a Y, similar to a headphone cord, where the bottom is the charging adapter and then it splits to the Treo and a PS-2 style jack for hooking to the GPS cord. Unfortunately, the bulk of the cord length is before the split and at the split is small but still not insignificant plastic box, then a relatively short (24"?) run to the phone connector. Therefore it is hard to have a discrete cable running to your Treo, 'cause not too far away you have this bulky connector.

    As for the GPS unit itself, seems to work fine, doesn't seem to pick up a fix as quickly as the BT unit that came with TT5, but once it has it, I can bury the receiver in the center compartment and it holds a strong signal well, just like the BT unit. It is nice not having to power on the GPS separately, being able to charge the phone, and not ever having a BT pairing issue. However, the wires are annoying. I will keep this solely because the BT HFL in our Acura TL takes precedence over the BT GPS receiver unless I repeat an annoying workaround.

    I will try to post pics and a more detailed report on behavior with incoming, outgoing calls in the future.

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