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  1.    #1  
    Hey all,

    It was clear on my Palm III, using Grafiti, that a slash up + c would copy text, slash up + x would cut text, etc... But since there's no writing area on the 650, I can't figure out how to perform the keystrokes as shown to the right of the commands in the Menu.

    I'm assuming these commands CAN be done with keystrokes, or else they wouldn't be included in the Menus... Right? Or, is the software simply cross-platform, and the commands CAN'T be keyed on the Treo?

    Can someone help me here? I'm missing something obvious, I'm sure, but I just can't find this answer spelled out anywhere.

    Thanks!

    -Kirk
  2. #2  
    What's wrong with menu-c, and menu-p??

    But...if you need to do it with strokes because you've already got the stylus in your hand (have you ever thought about using your thumb/finger instead of the stylus?)...you might need to have Graffiti Anywhere or TealScript running to do anything Graffiti related. Dunno though, because I use the keyboard for everything.
  3.    #3  
    Ah... The menu button + c for copy, and the menu button + p for paste? That's it! That's all I needed to know. I didn't know that the "/" refered to the actual menu button. Thank you very much for your help!

    -Kirk
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    Yep, it took me a minute or a post to figure that out too. If you don't have it yet, you want to get a couple of free apps that restores some old school functionality. Get FieldPlus, CutPaste5, and ShortCut5. The 1st allows you to use keys to select text with key combinations. It also restores the slash command that brings up the command bar. With FieldPlus and CutPaste you can press and hold the menu key to bring up the command bar with a copy and/or paste clipboards. This is useful when menu-c and menu-p are not allowed or when you want two separate boards for either function.

    Finally, ShortCut5 restores the ability to create shortcuts for long text entries. The old way used the cursive stroke and then the abbreviation text code. This way you will type a period and then the abbreviation text code. This works for your own one but not the old ds (date stamp) or dts (date time stamp).

    The is a way to do the old slash command with key presses to allow the date stamp and date time stamp functions but it escapes me.
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    How on earth do you do a Menu + Number command? Pressing Menu, then Option then the Number key doesn't work.

    I often need to 'Make Exception' in DateBK5 or 'Go To Bottom' in MobileDB but these are both :menu:9 commands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by checkmate
    How on earth do you do a Menu + Number command? Pressing Menu, then Option then the Number key doesn't work.

    I often need to 'Make Exception' in DateBK5 or 'Go To Bottom' in MobileDB but these are both :menu:9 commands.
    Hmm...I don't use either of those apps. But, what about option, then menu, then 9?!?
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    No, doesn't work that way either. Nice try though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by checkmate
    How on earth do you do a Menu + Number command? Pressing Menu, then Option then the Number key doesn't work.
    Hmm... Now you've got me wondering what YOU are trying to do. I'm not sure I follow you here.

    Godschoice, thanks for the info! I'll check 'em out.

    -Kirk
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    Quote Originally Posted by KMeloney
    Hey all,

    It was clear on my Palm III, using Grafiti, that a slash up + c would copy text, slash up + x would cut text, etc... But since there's no writing area on the 650, I can't figure out how to perform the keystrokes as shown to the right of the commands in the Menu.

    I'm assuming these commands CAN be done with keystrokes, or else they wouldn't be included in the Menus... Right? Or, is the software simply cross-platform, and the commands CAN'T be keyed on the Treo?

    Can someone help me here? I'm missing something obvious, I'm sure, but I just can't find this answer spelled out anywhere.

    Thanks!

    -Kirk

    There is obviously no silk screen on the Treo, so it probably isn't possible. However there may be a workaround via GA perhaps? I dunno..

    Also, there is a thumbboard solution called treo select text:

    http://www.ranosoft.net/tst/main.html
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    TreoSelecText is indeed awesome. Use it ALL the time, and really depend on it. ANother nice little utility along these same lines is 'textras' - kind of like a replacehack.
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    Hmm... Now you've got me wondering what YOU are trying to do. I'm not sure I follow you here.
    Well, you know you can press the menu key, followed by a letter to perform a shortcut? For instance, Menu + C performs a copy function (the same with all shortcuts listed in the top menus).

    On some programs such as DateBK5 there are shortcuts that require a number instead of a letter - in the top menu it will show something like:

    Beam Event... :menu:3

    My problem is that there's no way of entering a number after pressing the Menu key.
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    My only other option for you to try is KeyCaps650...I seriously doubt it'll work though.

    BTW....I don't have DateBK5, but in most other apps, Beam is 'B', not '3'....but I guess Beam Event is prolly different from just plain ol' beam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by checkmate
    Well, you know you can press the menu key, followed by a letter to perform a shortcut? For instance, Menu + C performs a copy function (the same with all shortcuts listed in the top menus).
    See, I DIDN'T know this until I posted this and got responses. So, to you also, thank you! That was the whole point of this post.

    Quote Originally Posted by checkmate
    On some programs such as DateBK5 there are shortcuts that require a number instead of a letter - in the top menu it will show something like:

    Beam Event... :menu:3

    My problem is that there's no way of entering a number after pressing the Menu key.
    Ah, I hear you... Ok. Interesting. How do you like Datebook5, BTW? I have Datebook4 on my Palm III, and really like(d) it. I'm a little scared to put it (5) on my Treo, though...

    -Kirk
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    I use Resco Explorer and to select all it requires Menu + (plus sign) and deselect all is Menu - (minus sign)

    I can press Menu Option Option - to deselect and even Meno Option Option * to Select by Filter but I can not get Menu Option Option + to work.

    Try doing Menu, Option, Option, Number command
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    How do you like Datebook5, BTW?
    DateBK5 was one of those annoying applications that I downloaded as a trial then got so used to the extra features that I couldn't go back to the ordinary datebook!

    Try doing Menu, Option, Option, Number command
    Nope, doesn't work either I'm afraid. I think I'll post on the official forum for DateBK5 and see what they say.
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    Bear with me.

    I understand the /number problem, but I don't have any third-party apps that use it, so I can't test this out.

    Can you press Option Option (locking it on), then Menu - Number? I don't know why the Option Lock would get knocked out before you could enter your number in this case. I'm not saying it's easy, just that it's possible.

    Also, to answer the question about the simple time stamp, which I use frequently: Type s (or S, though I don't know why you'd make it upper case) and then the Alt key. In the little pop-up menu is your Shortcut cursive symbol and you can get to it with the directional 5-way button (down). THEN type t and s and your time stamp appears. Again, not easy but possible.

    Hope this helps.
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  17. #17  
    Another thread here (Cool things...) has some great keystroke helpers on page 2 or thereabouts.

    I mentioned using the Down key to reach the desired Alt symbol. Repeated pressings of Alt will do the same, cycling through your Alt pop-up. When you find the one you want, either Center OR the Space bar will select that character, such as :shortcut: in the above example.

    And Hotoru reported that the TAB character can be entered by typing Shift then Space. Can be handy.
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  18. #18  
    Quote Originally Posted by checkmate
    Well, you know you can press the menu key, followed by a letter to perform a shortcut? For instance, Menu + C performs a copy function (the same with all shortcuts listed in the top menus).

    On some programs such as DateBK5 there are shortcuts that require a number instead of a letter - in the top menu it will show something like:

    Beam Event... :menu:3

    My problem is that there's no way of entering a number after pressing the Menu key.
    Those commands were designed to be accessed with the command bar, via the command stroke. It doesn't matter that you can't perform the command stroke, as long as you can summon the command bar with the help of an app like FieldPlus or Butler. So, assuming that you've installed FieldPlus and enabled it's command bar facility, to launch DB5's Beam Event (command stroke 3):
    1. Hold the menu key until the command bar appears
    2. Press Option + T (3)
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  19. #19  
    hardly seems worth it in the end, does it? May as well navigate the menus with the 5-way pad and select that way.
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  20. #20  
    Quote Originally Posted by checkmate
    hardly seems worth it in the end, does it? May as well navigate the menus with the 5-way pad and select that way.
    Really? Using the 5-way and menus on the day view takes anywhere from 2 to 13 presses; this method never takes more than 3.
    V > Vx > m505 > m515 > T/T > T3 > TC > 650 > 680
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