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  1.    #1  
    I enjoy using the T650 and splashblog to publish photos for friends and family however every one elses photos look better than mine!

    Has you got some hints and tips to get the best from the camera please?

    My own (and some from phonecameradoc are below but I need to improve)

    - Clean the lens!
    - Do not shoot in direct sunlight
    - Gray overcast days give good results
    - Gray even background (not B or W)gives the camera a better chance to obtain a good colour balance & contrast on the subject.
    - Hold steady - I believe the camera actually takes the pic when you RELEASE the button not when you PRESS it.
    - Always use 640x480 size.

    How about some links to "best practice" site. My own is an example of why I want to improve
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    I know it's nice and convenient, but if you want to take pictures that you'll want to look at again, use a real digital camera. Otherwise I don't think you've missed anything for getting the most out of the camera in the 650.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raphael
    I enjoy using the T650....
    Has you got some hints and tips to get the best from the camera please?
    Download "qSet". It can adjust the quality of the Treo's pictures taken by the camera. With the 650, you can near (almost) 1-megapixel photo quality. It will spit out very good looking 640x480's. I set it at 99 - because I have a 1GB card and a bunch of 128MB SD cards to burn.

    But setting it to 90 is sufficent.

    But, seriously, qSet is one of those essential apps - it's up there with PocketTunes, SplashID, etc etc.
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    So is this utility useless on the 650 as the comments at the above website state?
    HP 95LX -> Newton 100 -> Palm III -> Handspring Platinum -> Treo 270 -> Treo 650 -> Treo 700p
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    I was under the impression that QSet didn't work with the Treo 650. Is this wrong? I've read many times on this forum that it didn't work....

    -TR1
    Handspring Prism ---> PalmOne Treo650
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    It does work. Try setting the values differently and see the quality differences for yourself
  7. #8  
    Quote Originally Posted by DDMTREO
    It does work. Try setting the values differently and see the quality differences for yourself
    No, it doesn't.
    "I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer."
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    WTF. Yes, QSet does work on the 650. Dude, I use my 650 camera everyday. Yes it does. Don't spread disinformation. You communist.
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    Jack, put in 1, take a pic, then put in 99 and take a pic. Report back.
    "I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer."
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    I have to start with a disclaimer - I don't have a 650 yet, so my comments are general - I don't know the ins and outs of the 650 camera. So, looking at your pictures, the problem is a lack of sharpness. This could be caused by movement or improper focus. However, the softness doesn't seem directional (movement) and it seems to affect both foreground and background (unlikely a focus problem). Normally, I would say try shooting in brighter light - that will make the camera use a faster shutter speed (less movement problems) and a smaller aperture (better depth of field (although I don't know if the 650 camera can even adjust these things.)) The fact that all the photos seem to have the same lack of sharpness (close and distant objects, light and dark subjects) makes me suspect hardware. But again, I don't have a 650 so I don't know jack about the hardware.

    I would try some tests with the 650 fixed to a stationary object, and with a very well-lit subject (but no light source shining into the lens.) If you don't see an improvement, I would suspect your lens may be out of alignment - or some other physical problem.

    Overcompression is not the problem, so I doubt that changing the quality settings would improve your images, whether Qset works or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raphael
    I enjoy using the T650 and splashblog to publish photos for friends and family however every one elses photos look better than mine!

    Has you got some hints and tips to get the best from the camera please?

    My own (and some from phonecameradoc are below but I need to improve)

    - Clean the lens!
    - Do not shoot in direct sunlight
    - Gray overcast days give good results
    - Gray even background (not B or W)gives the camera a better chance to obtain a good colour balance & contrast on the subject.
    - Hold steady - I believe the camera actually takes the pic when you RELEASE the button not when you PRESS it.
    - Always use 640x480 size.

    How about some links to "best practice" site. My own is an example of why I want to improve
    <a href="http://www.chocopoolp.com/"><img src="http://www.chocopoolp.com/logos/banner-1.gif"></a>
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    wouldn't you get better picture quality if you take pictures at 320 x 240 ? (on the 650)
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    I was excited to see this thread, because my 650's photos have been downright awful.

    I just used the Qset app to turn the compression down (I used the 99 value) yet my images still look awful:

    http://imageserver4.textamerica.com/...7105901143.jpg

    Any thoughts? See more examples on my textamerica moblog:

    http://lonseidman.textamerica.com
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    I just took two pictiures with Qset at 99 and 05.

    They came in a 69k and 66k. Not much difference at all, Oh, well. It was worth a shot.
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    Like many I find myself using the camera phone a lot more than I originally thought I would just because its there all the time. I do not expect great quality but sometimes its suprises me. A lot of pictures look like someone created them with a magic marker, but others look ok. The lens is truly a dust magnet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robangel
    Like many I find myself using the camera phone a lot more than I originally thought I would just because its there all the time. I do not expect great quality but sometimes its suprises me. A lot of pictures look like someone created them with a magic marker, but others look ok. The lens is truly a dust magnet.
    The convenience factor is huge. The other part of carrying an additional digital camera is that it is another device where you have to worry about batteries, keeping it in the case, etc.

    If I know that I need a good pic, then I bring my Minolta. (Problem is that I rarely 'know' in advance that I will need a good pic of something.)
    Palm III-->Palm IIIxe-->Palm 505-->Samsung i300-->Treo 600-->PPC 6600-->Treo 650-->Treo 700wx-->BB Pearl--> BB Curve

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    If I need a good picture I carry my 35mm SLR and my medium format camera. My treo is for other things.... *8^)
  17.    #18  
    Quote Originally Posted by slithy
    I have to start with a disclaimer - I don't have a 650 yet, so my comments are general - I don't know the ins and outs of the 650 camera. So, looking at your pictures, the problem is a lack of sharpness. This could be caused by movement or improper focus. However, the softness doesn't seem directional (movement) and it seems to affect both foreground and background (unlikely a focus problem). Normally, I would say try shooting in brighter light - that will make the camera use a faster shutter speed (less movement problems) and a smaller aperture (better depth of field (although I don't know if the 650 camera can even adjust these things.)) The fact that all the photos seem to have the same lack of sharpness (close and distant objects, light and dark subjects) makes me suspect hardware. But again, I don't have a 650 so I don't know jack about the hardware.

    I would try some tests with the 650 fixed to a stationary object, and with a very well-lit subject (but no light source shining into the lens.) If you don't see an improvement, I would suspect your lens may be out of alignment - or some other physical problem.

    Overcompression is not the problem, so I doubt that changing the quality settings would improve your images, whether Qset works or not.
    Thanks to all and to you Slithy for your reply. I am sad that your think there might be a hardware problem possibly.

    I will try shooting in a brighter light perhaps and try to make sure that I hold the phone still when I press and let go of the button. I am using Picassa to organise images on my laptop and have now started experimenting with the "sharpen" or "contrast" correction. there is a "I'm feeling lucky" button that I am using quite a lot now. That is a help.

    I'll keep monitoring for more replies.

    I have just found the weblog of my phonecameradoc and he seems to be a real careful chap with a great artists eye. What do you think to his images?

    Thanks a lot - Raphael.
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    Qset works on the 650, Qset doesnt work on the 650? Qset causes pic to look awesome! Qset doesnt do a thing for the 650!

    IMO, the only way to know whether its going to work for YOU is to try it out for yourself. Between this forum and others that I frequent, the general consensus is that Qset does not work on the 650.
    ~ ScandaLous ~
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    Quote Originally Posted by zelgo
    I just tested Qset too--tried it at various JPEG compressions. I saw absolutely no difference in the pictures whether I put in 10 or 99. They definitely look the same on the Treo. Is the quality different when you stick them on the computer, perhaps?

    Or, do people so want this program to work on the 650 that they are just seeing things?

    I just tested it as well with my 650. I took two pictures in a room in my house. Then I installed Qset and it said my (original) current setting was at 65. I set it at 99 and took a picture. I then set it at 1 and took a picture. I synced and looked on my computer and couldn't tell a difference on any of them. The kb's were within 10 of the other, with the 99 on the Qset being smaller than the original. I then deleted the program, as I don't need anything that really doesn't improve the phone. I agree with the others. It's convenient if you need to take a quick picture for someone to see something, but for keepers, get a digital camera.
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