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    before the rom update for CDMA phone, pressing and holding the menu key activated the cmd bar, i tried it post the update and it is not working, is this the case for everyone or is a hard reset a must for me?
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    This wasn't a feature included in the sprint cdma Treo 650. My guess is that you had an application like "butler" etc, that would make this happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulsjmail
    This wasn't a feature included in the sprint cdma Treo 650. My guess is that you had an application like "butler" etc, that would make this happen.
    Butler or FieldPlus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gt5l
    before the rom update for CDMA phone, pressing and holding the menu key activated the cmd bar, i tried it post the update and it is not working, is this the case for everyone or is a hard reset a must for me?
    Umm...is it just me, or is there no advantage to that feature over merely pressing the menu button. My question is why hold when you can just press the menu button and enter the command???
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    Quote Originally Posted by grndslm
    Umm...is it just me, or is there no advantage to that feature over merely pressing the menu button. My question is why hold when you can just press the menu button and enter the command???
    Because pressing the menu button just lets you access the menu. We're talking about accessing the command bar, the bar at the bottom of the screen shown in this pic:

    http://www.palmloyal.com/adimages/la...Commandbar.bmp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Gamble
    Because pressing the menu button just lets you access the menu. We're talking about accessing the command bar, the bar at the bottom of the screen shown in this pic:
    OK...so, my new question is where'd those icons come from, left of the info button. Can you add your own buttons?? Even still, it seems easier to just remember the letter of that button and hit Menu + D to delete, etc...

    I realize it's easier for some to memorize more than others. I might be interested in how to add icons, though, but still doubting I'd find a real need/use for it. No applications I have really use that command bar...the launcher was the only thing I could find icons in, and certainly not useful to me.
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    Some of the symbols in the command bar are provided by the OS; in this pic those would be the Trash Can (Delete) and the beam symbol. Others are placed there by 3rd party apps: the DA symbol there is from DALauncher (if you haven't been introduced to DA's - desk accessories - check 'em out...they can be real time savers) and I'm not sure what the other symbols there are (that's not my machine). On my machine, my command bar would show a calculator symbol, which when tapped would bring up SnapCalc5, a clipboard symbol for summoning ClipPRO, a red book for the Slovoed dictionary and a Bluetooth symbol for toggling BT on/off, compliments of Blue Fang.

    The best use for the Command Bar is not as a substitute for the menus, but as a sort of resident launcher for those apps that use it.
    Last edited by Bill Gamble; 07/05/2005 at 05:37 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Gamble
    The best use for the Command Bar is not as a substitute for the menus, but as a sort of resident launcher for those apps that use it.
    Why not just assign 26 programs to each letter of the alphabet....then press the green phone button and hold a single letter 'til it comes up!!???!!

    Seems more logical to map each of those hard buttons on your phone to a single program than to link 5 icons to programs...i hate to utilize the touchscreen unless it's abosultely necessary -- such as playing solitaire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grndslm
    Why not just assign 26 programs to each letter of the alphabet....then press the green phone button and hold a single letter 'til it comes up!!???!!
    Not really the same thing... - but if you're really interested in that concept, check out Butler's K Launch function.

    Well, to each his own. I understand that if you don't come from the Palm world, the concept of the command bar might seem "heap scary juju" ; but to those of us who have used it for years, it's nice to have (especially for DA use).
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    Quote Originally Posted by grndslm
    Why not just assign 26 programs to each letter of the alphabet....then press the green phone button and hold a single letter 'til it comes up!!???!!

    Seems more logical to map each of those hard buttons on your phone to a single program than to link 5 icons to programs...i hate to utilize the touchscreen unless it's abosultely necessary -- such as playing solitaire.
    Becasue that its 26 things I have to remember and I aint as bright I guess. I rather see an icon and Mongo tap Icon....

    Also, try out Butlers K-Launch feature and you would not have to hit the green phone button, and that would cut your meathods time in half.

    I like the command line, even more when there is no cut and paste to be had in the menu, but you can use the command bar to use it.

    Reagrds, matt
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    Oh boy....I didn't realize the 650 has a command bar...I have fiddled with my phone for the last 1/2 hour, searched the 650 manual and searched previous threads and I can't figure out - how do I bring up that bar shown in the pic in post #5 of this thread? Is that a third-party app? It sounds to me like it's a resident feature, based on what Bill Gamble said in post #7...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pentatonic145
    Oh boy....I didn't realize the 650 has a command bar...I have fiddled with my phone for the last 1/2 hour, searched the 650 manual and searched previous threads and I can't figure out - how do I bring up that bar shown in the pic in post #5 of this thread? Is that a third-party app? It sounds to me like it's a resident feature, based on what Bill Gamble said in post #7...?
    The command bar is there, just as it is in every other Palm device, but the Treo doesn't provide an easy way to get to it. Use Butler or FieldPlus to access it via a long press of the menu button.
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    I guess I'm still not seeing the advantage of using the command bar as a launcher when there seem to be better methods of launching a program....I could MAYBE understand a few commands in the command bar that weren't as intuitive as MENU + C for copy, MENU + D for delete, etc....but not programs.

    BTW, Thanks for the Butler tip, Burkhardi. I tried it a while back, but didn't really think it was worth the money. Does anybody else have a FREE alternative to Butler's K-Launch?? I would so enjoy being able to launch a program outside the phone app!!!

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