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    Hi there,
    I am new to this site, but not new to plam. Had the old treo 600, been waiting for this one since Feb. I got it in my hand it is charging by me at the moment. I got mine for free on premier 600, first 6 months for £40, then I plan to downscale my tariff to cheapest. The handset was free, asked orange and they still wanted £99 for the handeset on orange 600. I got mine from simplyorange.biz.

    just playing with at the momentr I have a mac, so cant find zap anywhere, if anyone knows could they help me. Also I cant regsiter as I am still doinga n intial charge . cant wait. Screen is gorgeous.
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    Sorry, if anyone has any questions ref the orange treo 650, or to try anything just ask. I hope to try and contribute to the forum.
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    Was that on a new connection or an upgrade? I just called them to upgrade my 600 and they reckon it hasn't reached the upgrade centre yet.. BAH!
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    Quote Originally Posted by apple_power
    Sorry, if anyone has any questions ref the orange treo 650, or to try anything just ask. I hope to try and contribute to the forum.
    What exactley did you get in the box ?

    Just ordered mine, should be here Tuesday, been waiting a long time for this.

    I'm also a MAC user and use an T-Mobile MDA Compact at the moment but these pocketpc devices are useless with MAC's so I'm hoping to have more luck with this new Palm device.

    Whats yours thoughts so far about Sync ing with your apple ?

    Simon
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyMc
    Was that on a new connection or an upgrade? I just called them to upgrade my 600 and they reckon it hasn't reached the upgrade centre yet.. BAH!
    It has because I just upgraded.

    You can actually do it online on the orange website :-)

    Simon
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    I just had to pay a fortune for my upgrade!! Previously had a 600 but switched to an SPV 2000 in Feb, and it just isn't the phone the Treo is. So bad in comparison, I'm itching to get the Treo! Cost me a packet but i'm hoping to make most of it back by selling the SPV..... Also a Mac user, and while PocketMac is not too bad, it just isn't as good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigladUK
    What exactley did you get in the box ?

    Just ordered mine, should be here Tuesday, been waiting a long time for this.

    I'm also a MAC user and use an T-Mobile MDA Compact at the moment but these pocketpc devices are useless with MAC's so I'm hoping to have more luck with this new Palm device.

    Whats yours thoughts so far about Sync ing with your apple ?

    Simon
    In the box you get the folowing:

    Additional stylus.
    Installation CD with bonus software (docs to go, zap, solitaire etc).
    Stereo headset.
    Sync cable.
    Charger.
    Screen protector.

    And I think thats about it (from memory). Didnt supply a case with the 650 which is a poor show. Luckily the 600 case fits well.
    It's not that I'm so smart, it's just that I stay with problems longer- Albert Einstein.

    Palm M505> Palm Tungsten E> Treo 600> Treo 650> Treo 680> Sony Ericsson P1i (running Styletap BETA)> iPhone 3G 16GB

    Macbook Pro 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
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    Yep, ive been waiting for the 650 on orange for ages. I looked on the orange website on thursday night, phoned orange on friday and it should be arriving tomorrow - cant wait. I ended up paying £99 for an upgrade, but im only on a £25 contract, so im not to bothered about that. My tip for upgrading: phone up, say you want to cancel your service because: its too expensive, you can get a better deal anywhere else, you want a feature your current phone doesnt have. The upgrade would have been £349, but after a bit of haggling it was £99 - worth a try.
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    Hicks,

    Do the Bluetooth SMS/Dialing functions of Address book work with the Treo 650 ?

    I would not have though so but you never know :-)

    BTW Mine arrives tomorrow and was a £99 upgrade. Just ordered the Treo Case ( Black Leather ) from expansys to protect the phone.

    Simon
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    I'm using iSync 2 and Missing sync on mac... trying to hotsync via bluetooth works to a degree - I'm still having problems getting it to transfer apps onto the phone, it just loses connection. Its also bloody slow.
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    What's a free whoppee?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigladUK
    Hicks,

    Do the Bluetooth SMS/Dialing functions of Address book work with the Treo 650 ?

    I would not have though so but you never know :-)

    BTW Mine arrives tomorrow and was a £99 upgrade. Just ordered the Treo Case ( Black Leather ) from expansys to protect the phone.

    Simon
    Hi,

    Not too sure wat you mean Biglad. You can send a contact to somebody via Bluetooth, if thats what you mean?
    It's not that I'm so smart, it's just that I stay with problems longer- Albert Einstein.

    Palm M505> Palm Tungsten E> Treo 600> Treo 650> Treo 680> Sony Ericsson P1i (running Styletap BETA)> iPhone 3G 16GB

    Macbook Pro 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
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    No I ment opening Address Book and clicking on the Bluetooth button to connect your 650 then using Address Book to send a receive SMS messages and also dialing and accepting calls.

    Maybe you haven't used these features before ?

    Si
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    Whoppee is me being dead dead excited. i ahve been after this since Feb. Being avoiding buying sim free as better half will kill me. Plus wasted so much money trying to get it by calling around.
    Sayem

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    Powerbooks 15, 12"
    ibook 12"
    imac G5
    emac
    Phones:Treo 650/600, m2000/m1000, nokia 9500,6630,3510i, 6310i and Samsung D500, V3, V600, SEp910i, p900, P800 far to many more nadeset all the way back to 1993
    Palm: T3, T5, E1, T1, T2, sonly clie ux50, Th55 and far to many others to list
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigladUK
    No I ment opening Address Book and clicking on the Bluetooth button to connect your 650 then using Address Book to send a receive SMS messages and also dialing and accepting calls.

    Maybe you haven't used these features before ?

    Si
    No I haven't, still not too sure what you mean! Sorry! The only option is to send a contact via Bluetoth as far as I can tell.
    It's not that I'm so smart, it's just that I stay with problems longer- Albert Einstein.

    Palm M505> Palm Tungsten E> Treo 600> Treo 650> Treo 680> Sony Ericsson P1i (running Styletap BETA)> iPhone 3G 16GB

    Macbook Pro 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
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    OK.

    1.Open Address Book
    2. In address book you have 4 buttons just above the word group at the top left hand corner of the application. The 4th one ( counting from the right ) is a bluetooth button. Click this and address book should try to connect to your 650.
    3.Now if that was successful ( which I doubt it was ) the button should have changed to blue ( or maybe just bold ) and if you click on one of your contacts mobile numbers the context sensitive menu should have an non greyed out option to send message or Dial with Cell Phone. If these are greyed out then address book has not connected with your phone and these funtions won't work.
    If, however these options aren't greyed out then you should be able to send text messages and dail mobile numbers direct from address book.

    Give it a go.

    I'll try myself tomorrow when my 650 arrived ( fingers crossed) :-)
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    I know what you mean BigladUK, I tried it says pairing with phone and then goes back to no blue in the bluetooth icon. Also my options are greyed out for sending sms or calling.
    I tried repairing the phone, it says no services found.
    Boo, did not realsie you could do that all this time, might try with other phones.
    I have tiger 10.4.1.
    Sayem

    apple_power
    Powerbooks 15, 12"
    ibook 12"
    imac G5
    emac
    Phones:Treo 650/600, m2000/m1000, nokia 9500,6630,3510i, 6310i and Samsung D500, V3, V600, SEp910i, p900, P800 far to many more nadeset all the way back to 1993
    Palm: T3, T5, E1, T1, T2, sonly clie ux50, Th55 and far to many others to list
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    Quote Originally Posted by apple_power
    I know what you mean BigladUK, I tried it says pairing with phone and then goes back to no blue in the bluetooth icon. Also my options are greyed out for sending sms or calling.
    I tried repairing the phone, it says no services found.
    Boo, did not realsie you could do that all this time, might try with other phones.
    I have tiger 10.4.1.
    It's a great under used feature cause when the address book is connected to your phone ( not the 650 obviously ) and a message arrives it pops up on the screen allowing you to reply to it. Same with a call, you can accept it, or send it voice mail all from your mac :-)

    You got to love these MACS.

    It works with almost all SonyEricsson phones and a limited number of Nokia phones.

    Enjoy
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    Orange (UK) Treo 600 to 650 Upgrade: The Real Story… after a day and a half

    Finally I have had my long awaited Treo 650 delivered on the 23-May-2005 this is my second day with it and I am having very mixed feeling about the whole upgrade experience. Because it is an phone upgrade and not a new purchase I only get seven days to checkout the new piece of hardware whereas in reality I only get four days, until Thursday 26-May-2005 as they count the last Friday the day I ordered it and the weekend I did not have it in their calculation of days before I can cancel the upgrade contract.

    My experience so far with the upgrade of my well loved and well used Treo 600, as I said above, has been mixed. The new Treo looks great, the keypad and buttons have been improved even thought the original 600 were perfectly fine for me. The screen is clear and very sharp and is streets ahead of its predecessor. My major disappointment with the whole experience has been on the support side with nobody at Orange handset support having seen the phone never-mind able to answers questions about it. This phone was due for release in Feb 2005 and was only released Friday 20 May 2005 on the Orange UK network, you would have thought that there was plenty of time to train up the relevant people to support this product. Never-the-less I did persevere with Orange, especially as I had nowhere else to go, and found a very helpful supervisor who gave me the name, contact number and email address of PalmOne support company for UK and Europe unfortunately they do not cover support for the Orange Treo 600 or 650 flavours. I also spoke to another call centre support person at Orange regarding the SMS application (for specific’s see below) who has passed my SMS issues up the chain within Orange by email. He has promised to get back to me by Friday! I’ll let you know how I get along. The bottom line is that between Orange and PalmOne no-one is taking responsibility to support this Smartphone. I have to admit I had the same problems when I first purchased my Treo 600 but I really did think things would have improved over the year especially with all the competition currently surrounding smartphones!


    My observations / comments on the Orange (UK) Treo 600 to 650 Upgrade so far…

    - Before doing any upgrade to your desktop or phone take a back up of palm directory which contains your desktop software and backup your user data too! Store this somewhere very safe as it as the only comfort I had for many hours during the upgrade process. I would recommend you find your Treo 600 desktop software CD too as I need this too.

    - The first up grade process caused the Treo 650 to loop within the reboot cycle I do not know why as a number of applications where removed to a separate directory and deemed incompatible with the 650. The solutions to the reboot loop was to perform a hard reset on the 650 and re-install Treo 600 s/w & data from above back-up and repeat the upgrade removing all but essential third party s/w.

    - Once you have upgraded the desktop software if you now try to re-sync to the old faithful Treo 600 (which I did!) you will find that none of your address data will be there. I assume due to a file format change between versions.

    - After reloading the Treo 600 desktop, doing a hard reset to the 600 and re-sync to get back where we started I was ready to start all over again.

    - This time Success!! Data loaded successfully. Hey wait a minute there’s data missing:
    None of my five mail accounts have been transferred to my Treo 650
    Therefore, none of my numerous emails were transferred either.
    None of my SMS Chat logs have exported.
    None of the internal phone images were exported.
    All the Favourite buttons have successfully exported but without any of the Quick Key values.
    All Web bookmarks were transfers to the 650’s web application but stored pages just had the original links.

    What I found when the 650 was up and running.

    - The Orange Treo 650 has now disabled the five-way navigator ability to launch application when the phone application is running. Instead we now have a “fixed” icon strip down the left-hand side of the screen to allow quick access to:
    o Contacts: Contacts, Add a Contact
    o Phone: Call Log, Dial Pad
    o Message: New SMS, Unread SMS (Count), Unread MMS(Count), Unread eMail(Count)
    o Calendar: Calendar, Today’s appointment
    o Camera: Take a Picture, Media Album, Background (Temporary at any rate!)
    o Internet: Orange World, Info, Fun, Tools, Your Page
    - Theses icon cannot be changed to your favourites applications, or have programs added or removed and they cannot be sorted in a different order. I could not find a way to do it and when I quizzed Orange they confirmed the phone start-up screen was fixed!

    - The Phone application menu on the 650 has been reduced from four items to just two “Edit” and “Options”. Options can only be accessed directly from the Dial Pad screen. The “missing” Treo 600 menu items that were previously available are:
    Record: New Contact, Beam Business Card
    Options: Display Preferences…
    Views: Contacts, Favourites, Dial Pad, Call Log

    - Although the New Contact item can be found on the Quick Access strip, Beam Business Card is now missing from the phone application.


    - The new phone application supplied allows you to set your own background image once you’ve beamed you images from your old Treo to the new one. However, at every sync operation or soft reset the image reverts back to the default image supplied with the phone! I don’t think this should be happening!

    - The reset button is now under the battery cover case, the battery has fallen out a number of times while performing a reset.

    - New to the Treo 650 is a feature where Contact telephone numbers do not appear in the summary list when searching for a contact if non-numeric characters appear in the telephone field. This was not the case with the 600.

    - The SMS application in the Treo 600 & 650 still only shows those numbers tagged as Mobile/Other even though technology has moved on and thanks to BT (British Telecom) you can send SMS messages to landline numbers now!

    - New Treo 650 Email application now does not allow third party outgoing (SMTP) mail server because it will not let you enter a username and password. Although it has been improved by allowing incoming / outgoing Port Numbers and both SLL connections and APOP/ ESMTP authentication. This is all well and good as long as Orange’s own SMTP servers are working but it is always good to have an alternative just in case they are not.

    - Screen power down seems to be set to about 10 seconds with is really annoying even if the phone is fully charged with the power cable still plugged in!!

    - Talk Now new piece of s/w to allow instant and direct communication between Treos (650s only) without the need for dialling much like a walkie talkie caused numerous crashes after installation and so was removed.

    - Favourites pages cannot be accessed by an application with the 650, the 600 had an application called “Orange” which I mapped to the centre navigation button to allow me quick access to a variety of programs and functions. I did get a tip during the day from the PalmOne support centre that the Favourites application could be launched from the phone application by pressing S then Alt. It worked, I don’t know how or why, I was just very grateful!

    Surely the upgrade experience should be better than this, with what is, a great and long anticipated product from well established companies such as PalmOne and Orange?

    Yours
    Mr. JR Walker
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    Palms own guide to the Treo 650 upgrade expreience, what you get and more importantly what you don't get when upgrading from Treo 600 to 650!

    http://kb.palmone.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCGI.EXE?New,Kb=PalmSupportKB,ts=Palm_External2001,Case=obj(14403)
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