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  1. #21  
    Quote Originally Posted by DrDoom
    So I set it up. That was yesterday. So far? So good.

    I would not start the celebration too early!


    -rob
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  2. #22  
    Quote Originally Posted by robber
    I would not start the celebration too early!


    -rob
    Fair enough, but I'm twenty-four hours into this and no resets (knock on wood). Versamail does not auto-fetch, I'm sad to report, but other than that I'm good.
    Go here if you're tired of being .
    It'll be fun.
  3. #23  
    Quote Originally Posted by DrDoom
    Fair enough, but I'm twenty-four hours into this and no resets (knock on wood). Versamail does not auto-fetch, I'm sad to report, but other than that I'm good.
    Actually, versamail DOES auto-fetch, DrDoom I have been using versamail since day one and am a very happy customer. Go to menu - options - perferences - auto sync to set up this function.

    It is pull, not push email solution.
  4. #24  
    The below specs suggest there is an "extended battery" included in the package but if users have to be worried about a phone and pda device that can only be used for phone calls and EVDO/Broadband for a combined 2.5 hours each day then this device is simply a pig in a dress.

    General Features

    All Digital

    ActiveSync

    Bluetooth Enabled

    BroadbandAccess

    CDMA Data Capable

    Call Waiting

    Color Display

    E-mail and Internet Access

    GPS enabled

    High Resolution Display

    Infrared Port

    Microsoft Media Player

    Microsoft Pocket Excel

    Microsoft Pocket Internet Explorer

    Microsoft Pocket Outlook

    Microsoft Pocket Word

    Microsoft Windows for Pocket PC

    NationalAccess Capable

    OTA Capable

    PC Synchronization

    QWERTY keyboard

    Retractable antenna

    Slide Style Design

    Speakerphone

    TTY compatible

    TXT Messaging

    Voice Dialing

    Web Browser

    Wireless SYNC


    Specifications
    Up to 150 Minutes Usage Time

    Up to 130 Hours Stand by Time

    6.44 oz.

    4.49H x 2.28W x 0.97D inches


    Packaged With Handset
    1 Companion Software CD

    Extended Battery

    Holster

    One Desktop Sync/Charging Cradle

    One Standard Lithium Ion Battery

    One Travel Charger

    Stylus (2)

    USB Sync cable

    Welcome CD
    Sprint Treo 600 (since October '03) --> PPC 6700 (exactly 29 days) --> Sprint Treo 600 --> Sprint Treo 700p --> BB Curve 8330.
  5. #25  
    Just so everybody knows. The Samsung i730 will be available through the Business 2 Business channel starting tomorrow (6/23/05). Then to everybody on 7/7/05.

    As far as compairson... Well, I just hope the i730 is better than the i700. I really hated that thing. I ended up selling it and getting a regular phone for awhile. Me? Regular phone? Yeah...

    But I have played with the Samsung i730 and was impressed from the first second. It has the feeling of a very well built unit. Not cheap feeling.

    Just for the record. The WiFi will work. The Bluetooth will work. The only feature the literature I have seen does not mention is the Blackberry capability. I know Phone Scoop has that listed as a feature.

    I currently have a Treo 600. I really like it. I had an order in for a Treo 650 but ended up canceling it.

    The full price for the Samsung will be $719. 1 Year agreement will bring it down to $649 and 2 year will bring it down to $599.
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  6. #26  
    damn, that's expensive! ...and I thought I was outta my mind paying 6 bills for this thing...( and no contract crap )
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  7. #27  
    Wall Street Journal
    Walter Mossberg column

    Samsung Phone Offers Wireless
    Broadband, But It Has Drawbacks
    June 23, 2005; Page B1

    For Americans who want a smart cellphone with a built-in keyboard for typing email, the best choice by far has been PalmOne's Treo 650, sold by most major U.S. wireless carriers.
    The standard BlackBerry hand-helds from Research In Motion make clunky phones, and the slimmer BlackBerry 7100, while an acceptable phone, lacks a full keyboard. The models using Microsoft's hand-held software have either lacked keyboards altogether or been too large to make comfortable phones. In contrast, the Treo is both roomy enough to be a good hand-held email device and compact enough to be a good phone.

    Starting today, Verizon Wireless will introduce in the U.S. the first Microsoft-based smart phone with a built-in keyboard that is about the same shape, size and weight as the Treo. This new phone, the $599 Samsung i730, has one major capability the $399 Treo lacks -- the ability to surf the Web and to send and receive email at broadband speeds.

    WALL STREET JOURNAL VIDEO

    Samsung's new phone offers wireless broadband, but has drawbacks, says Walt Mossberg.1

    The new Samsung can operate at speeds roughly comparable to home digital subscriber line, or DSL, connections through Verizon's wireless Broadband Access network, which works on a wireless technology called EVDO. Or it can use speedy Wi-Fi wireless networking at places like coffee shops and airports.
    I don't expect to see an EVDO-capable Treo until very late this year or early in 2006. And the Treo lacks Wi-Fi capability. So the Samsung is the fastest email and Web device with a built-in keyboard that is small enough to be used comfortably as a phone. It will be available starting today for corporate customers and will be in Verizon stores in a couple of weeks.


    Samsung i730

    I have been testing the new i730 and comparing it to the Treo 650 from Sprint that I carry as my own phone. The Samsung worked as promised for making voice calls, accessing Web sites, and sending and receiving emails. It also played music and videos and displayed photos, though unlike my Sprint Treo, the configuration Verizon sells lacks a camera.
    In my tests, I was able to get on the Web with the i730 at speeds ranging from 220 kilobits a second to 534 kilobits a second, which is between three and eight times as fast as the Treo's average speed of 70 kilobits a second. And that was on the Verizon EVDO network, which is available in most major U.S. cities. Using the phone's Wi-Fi capability, in my home and at a hotel, I was able to push the speed to nearly 700 kbps.
    There were some things about the i730 that drove me nuts compared with the Treo. It has much worse battery life. The Microsoft Pocket PC software it uses is much harder to navigate one-handed, as phones should be used, than the Palm software on the Treo. Even when doing simple tasks, i730 users will have to employ the stylus, and two hands, far more often than Treo users do.
    Unlike the Treo, whose keyboard is always visible beneath a square screen, the i730's keyboard is hidden beneath its rectangular screen and slides out for use. The keys are a little more widely spaced than the Treo's, though they are flatter and less pronounced. I found typing on the i730 to be about as fast as on the Treo.
    The new Samsung isn't quite as small as the Treo, but it is close. With its keyboard tucked out of sight for making phone calls, it is slightly narrower than the Treo but slightly thicker and longer. It also weighs a bit more. However, when the Samsung's keyboard is slid out for writing email, it becomes far longer. To dial a call without the keyboard extended, you have to use a virtual number pad on the screen.
    The i730's screen is larger, but it offers less resolution than the Treo's. Both phones use a five-way navigation pad, four buttons for calling up various functions, and traditional red and green buttons for starting and ending phone calls.
    The Samsung has 64 megabytes of memory, double the Treo's internal capacity, though this is offset by the fact that its Microsoft software needs more memory than does the Treo's Palm software. Both phones accept standard SD memory cards. I was able to pop the memory card from my Treo into the Samsung, and it played or displayed the music and photos I had stored there. Unlike the Treo, the Samsung has stereo speakers.
    Like the Treo, the Samsung offers Bluetooth wireless networking, a short-range technology for use with some cars and wireless headphones and for synchronizing data with PCs.
    In addition to its increased need for the stylus and two hands, the i730 has some other drawbacks. In my tests, its standard battery died in far less than a full day and far faster than my Treo's battery, which typically lasts me for a whole day of moderate phone-call use and heavy email use.
    You can't use the Samsung's Wi-Fi and cellphone capabilities at the same time, and it can't hand off your Internet connection from one wireless technology to the other. And, unlike my Sprint Treo, the Verizon i730 can't be used as a modem for a laptop. These limitations probably stem more from business decisions by Verizon than from technological limitations.
    Finally, the i730 is $200 more than the Treo 650. But if you prefer Microsoft's software to Palm's or crave having wireless broadband in a phone, the Samsung i730 is a good choice.

    Write to Walter S. Mossberg at walt.mossberg@wsj.com2
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    #28  
    How is this thing wihtout the Stylus? I have really started to get used to not using mine with the 650 with the dial pad and assigning hot buttons. Getting through the menus is very quick.
  9. #29  
    BTW, fairly thorough review of the i730 at http://www.handelsblatt.com/pshb/fn/relhbi/sfn/buildhbi/cn/GoArt!200104,300458,918086/SH/0/depot/0/
  10. #30  
    Quote Originally Posted by ibeplato
    BTW, fairly thorough review of the i730 at http://www.handelsblatt.com/pshb/fn/relhbi/sfn/buildhbi/cn/GoArt!200104,300458,918086/SH/0/depot/0/

    Did you happen to notice that the entire text of this review appears in a post in this thread, two messages before yours?

    Pete
  11. #31  
    Quote Originally Posted by ibeplato
    Does anyone know if the i730 will sync with Mac & entourage?
    Pocketmac Pro should work with the I730.

    www.pocketmac.net
  12. #32  
    I would only begin to consider this if someone came out with a hack to enable to connect your notebook with the phone. I realize some would try to use this in place of a home DSL connection, but business users cannot do everything on the PPC or Palm OS.
  13. #33  
    Quote Originally Posted by ouzome
    I would only begin to consider this if someone came out with a hack to enable to connect your notebook with the phone. I realize some would try to use this in place of a home DSL connection, but business users cannot do everything on the PPC or Palm OS.
    Start considering it then
  14. #34  
    So in terms of form and function.....how does the Samsung i730 match up to the T650?
    Fred
    Cingular 680
  15. #35  
    Quote Originally Posted by fkjr2
    So in terms of form and function.....how does the Samsung i730 match up to the T650?
    It feels great actually. Played with one at a Verizon store (see attached crappy picture taken via my Treo600). Keyboard slides in and out with a flick of one finger or thumb. Seems assisted by some spring-loaded system that simplifies the movement inward and outward. Smooth. The one I was holding had the chunkier of the two batteries on it (which is the way I'd keep it due to the poor battery life the standard battery is supposed to have). It was a little hefty with the extended battery on it and it was a big bulbous in my pocket but I guess I was too giddy to care at the time. The screen was big and beautiful (remember, I have the Treo 600), the keyboard is well thought out and I found typing quite easy (easier then my 600). I was very impressed with the form factor and while it is slightly larger then the Treo, its larger screen and high speed internet capabilities tip the scales for me. Although no camera so I will wait.

    I am not familiar with MS PPC OS at all so I found myself stumbling all over the place to test functionality. Couldn't find where to launch certain apps like email. Some functions were dummy-proof like the phone and calendar. The rep kept telling me, "take the stylus and click there...." but I refused to give in and tested for one-handed 5-way navigation. I must of looked foolish but I kept trying the 5-way to get me around. There HAS TO BE short cut keys for PPC OS because the 5-way just won't get you what you want on this thing. Many of the on-screen selections and buttons are very small and not accessible by 5-way so you're forced to pull out the stylus. I'm sure that my lack of experience with this PPC OS is to blame for my stumbling but it didn't seem intuitive to me. Looking forward to learning more about navigation, shortcuts, and of course the camera.
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    Wow... the specs are amazing. I'm glad I didn't pay for my 650 but if I was getting a new phone, I'd really consider this one. For those who say the phone is too expensive, @#$%ing Verizon's Internet plans are $45 per month or else you will be raped blind for data. In 2 months the extra cost of the phone would easily pay for itself and over a year I'd save roughly $550. No joke. I'd cancel my data plan in a flash and use WiFi if I could. In NYC there are loads of WiFi points and they are MUCH faster than over the aire. I'm so mad regarding the locking of WiFi on the Palm and will boot Verizon at the earliest possible moment I can get family off of them...
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