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    Which, if any, providers offer this? I know Sprint offers no international data roaming, at any price. I have heard Cingular offers this in 75 countries but I'm not sure and cannot tell from their website. I don't care about voice but would like free international data roaming and would switch from Sprint to get that.
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    no such thing as a freebies
    sorry
    treo 650: on my hand nya nya nya!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolwol
    no such thing as a freebies
    sorry
    I think you're right:
    Cingular: all GPRS usage is just $.0195/kb.
    T-Mobile:
    Canada $.01 (1 cent) per KB
    All other countries $.015 (1.5 cents) per KB
    Sprint and Verizon: no data ability outside US.
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    With Sprint and Verizon you can't even data roam within the US. It's a limitation of 1xRTT.
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    The only free data roaming you will get is via open Wi-Fi (If you installed the Wi-Fi) drivers. $.01 is CRAZY!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterFuhrman
    With Sprint and Verizon you can't even data roam within the US. It's a limitation of 1xRTT.
    It's NOT a limitation of 1xRTT. It's an unfortunate thing called politics. I'm holding out hope that they might one day get this figured out.

    Actually, I believe Verizon does have some limited data roaming with a few of their roaming partners...
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    If you are interested in international data, the best option is to get a prepaid SIM card in whatever country you are traveling to. I just got back from a week in Thailand where I used a prepaid DTAC card. I spent maybe 1000 baht ($25) for the card and the additional re-charges I needed to surf (and call) while in Thailand. DTAC offers EDGE speed (I got 70-90 kbps) in Bangkok, and GPRS elsewhere in the country. Kinda cool to check my email while riding an elephant in Mae Hong Son.
    Also, calls back to the US were much cheaper. It was 17baht/minute to call back to the us (about $0.40/minute). This compares quite nicely to Cingular's $2.99/minute to the US.
    Check the thread at http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=388055 to find a provider offering GPRS/EDGE where you are going.
    Bon voyage!
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    But make sure you buy an unlocked GSM version!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Joe
    But make sure you buy an unlocked GSM version!!
    Wow! Great stuff here. I'm coming up to speed rapidly. Here's what I should do:
    1. get an unlocked GSM T650 from PalmOne or Cingular (Cingular is risky as they may not unlock it or may make me wait 3 months)
    2. get a Wi-Fi card for it:
    http://store.palmone.com/product/ind...170719.1958343
    3. download shadowmite's drivers for the card
    http://www.uneasysilence.com/index.php?p=1719
    4. check that web list of wireless providers for where I want to go
    http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=388055
    5. grab a prepaid SIM card at the airport (how do I know if it will do data? i guess it has to be one of those providers on the list from step 4?)
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    You can also check the website of the international GSM provider directly to see if they offer GRPS/EDGE on their prepaid plans.
    Go to http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/index.shtml to see a list of providers by county (as well as their coverage areas).
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    Quote Originally Posted by kattanm
    Wow! Great stuff here. I'm coming up to speed rapidly. Here's what I should do:
    1. get an unlocked GSM T650 from PalmOne or Cingular (Cingular is risky as they may not unlock it or may make me wait 3 months)
    2. get a Wi-Fi card for it:
    http://store.palmone.com/product/ind...170719.1958343
    3. download shadowmite's drivers for the card
    http://www.uneasysilence.com/index.php?p=1719
    4. check that web list of wireless providers for where I want to go
    http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=388055
    5. grab a prepaid SIM card at the airport (how do I know if it will do data? i guess it has to be one of those providers on the list from step 4?)
    I guess I need to add:
    6. buy a SIM card and plan from someone like Cingular.
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    I was in Cabo San Lucas for a week last Nov. I continued to check email on three accounts, several times/day and used the web freely. No additional charges on my Cingular bill. (Media Works $19.99)

    I'm going to Cancun next week. I'll make a note post the latest experience in a month or two.
    73 de K3SLS
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    I returned from Cancun to find that I was charged for data roaming. I checked email each day several times and did some minor web browsing. I was charged at the $.0195/KB rate.

    Oddly, Telcel was the provider in both cities, but I was never charged for any usage in Cabo. Perhaps the accounting system in Cabo is screwed up.
    73 de K3SLS
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    internation data roaming can really add up and get expensive. with cingular, the internation VOICE roaming doesn't have to be expensive. you can pay 4.99 a month and pay only .15 cents per minute roaming in ANY country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHiNNuTS
    internation data roaming can really add up and get expensive. with cingular, the internation VOICE roaming doesn't have to be expensive. you can pay 4.99 a month and pay only .15 cents per minute roaming in ANY country.
    Um... this is not true. You can see the Cingular international roaming rates at www.cingular.com/world. They do have a couple of plans to reduce international rates. There is a plan for $3.99/month that gives you reduced rates for *calling* other countries (not roaming in them) and another plan for $5.99 per month that reduces the roaming rate in western Europe to $.99 from $1.29. Nothing like what you describe however. I wonder if you're thinking of the $3.99 plan to reduce the cost of calling to other countries?

    Brett
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    I have a friend who has been using T-Zones with her T600. We both flew for the same international airline. (She's been using T-Zones with the proxy server, check out the T-Mobile Discussion area)

    Any way, just about anywhere that T-Zones was available (most of Europe), she had data. She has never been charged any type of roaming fees on data.

    While this might be a fluke, it appears that if you're on a T-Mobile network out of the US, they just include T-Zones coverage at no charge. Of course they may have never envisioned anyone using the proxy, or using a smartphone overseas. (Basically she's been paying $5 / mo for data via T-Zones) Ironically, I've heard of people who pay the $19/mo for unlimited internet on T-Mo getting raked over the coals for roaming using GPRS. (There was a story out about a chap who didn't realize what it was costing, and using his laptop overseas like he was at home. The $3000+ phone bill was an eye popper!)

    YMMV, but give it a try if you're a T-Mo customer

    Alternatively, you could use a prepaid sim card overseas, but depending on the operator, it may cost a fortune. 02-de was that way, I chewed through a 10Euro credit in no time fast while checking emails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minsc
    It's NOT a limitation of 1xRTT. It's an unfortunate thing called politics. I'm holding out hope that they might one day get this figured out.

    Actually, I believe Verizon does have some limited data roaming with a few of their roaming partners...
    It really isn't "politics" so much as the fact that data roaming support with CDMA isn't nearly as mature as it is with GSM (it's all but built into GSM but it's an afterthought with CDMA.)

    I believe VZW has data roaming with Telus in Canada now...but a) it isn't free and b) it must be activated first.

    The whole data roaming situation is the main reason why I don't recommend VZW for people who want Treos, Blackberries, etc. (It isn't as bad with Sprint as they don't have the sort of bizarre gaps in data coverage that VZW does.)

    -SC
    "Never put off until tomorrow what you can do today. There might be a law against it by that time." -/usr/games/fortune
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoeingPilot
    While this might be a fluke
    It is.

    -SC
    "Never put off until tomorrow what you can do today. There might be a law against it by that time." -/usr/games/fortune
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    I just purchased a Cingular GSM QBAND Treo 650. I will be traveling to several countries (South America, Europe, Asia locations) within a 2-3 week period. Cingular didn't indicate when I called them, that I needed to "unlock" the phone while overseas. How can I tell if my phone needs to be unlocked??? Also, I'm not so much concerned about placing/receiving calls, but want to leave my laptop home and use the Treo 650 to receive and send Email. Any suggestions, comments, or experiences regarding Cingular Treo 650 and doing Email while traveling internationally? Thanks so much!
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    The easiest way is to insert a NON-cingular sim... it'll let you know immediately upon turning on the phone...

    It's probably locked to Cingular... you'll need to call CS to let them know you will be travelling, THOUGH it may not be an easy process, don't give up... goodluck.
    Now it's the WAITING GAME: a GSM Palm Pre
    T680 (COPPER) + Cingular = FUN!!
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