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    Hi guys, this is my first post.

    I was cheated into Verizon from Sprint when the V710 came out promising Bluetooth functionality like so many others, and now I'm ready to pay my $350 to get out. I need a PDA and the 650 seems like the one so now all I have to do is decide between Cingular and Sprint.

    So...which do you reccomend? I've had both in the past and reception is fine on both, Sprint has the edge when travelling. Cingular's Edge internet network is also faster than Sprints right?

    Thing is I'm a Realtor and can get special pricing through Sprint, but I hate to go back to them as their customer service is no better than Verizon.

    Any guidance is appreciated.
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    Well they say the grass looks greener on the other side.....

    I'm a sprint 650 owner. I've nevered been on cingular (os take this as you will). Based on this boards dicussions, and opions of friends and associates, If OI could start from scratch, I would purchase an unlocked GSM phone, then go to cingular.

    Sprint customer service is very poor, and the "Vision"service (internet service) is inconsistent.

    I'm curious to see what other TC memebrs have to say... Has any one used both services w/ a Treo 600 / 650?
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    It also seems to me like the Sprint phones have more bugs than the Cingular phones (i've been reading all night lol) but that may be because they've been out longer...

    Also part of what I'm trying to get away from is Verizon's unethical business practices, well Sprint deactivated all the same features on their little LG Bluetooth phone Verizon deactivated on the V710, people just make less noise about it.
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    I look at more from a CDMA (Sprint) or GSM (Cingular or other GSM carriers) perspective. If you travel a lot an avail of an unlocked Treo 650, you would have the flexibility in using SIMs in countries you are visiting. At least in my case in works better to have the GSM phone with CIngular as my US carrier...
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    I travel some but its usually up and down the east coast and hardly ever overseas.
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    I wouldn't say Sprint hamore bugs, thought the "Enable Local Network Time" thing is a Sprint only issue - I agree with what u have said- it's been out longer.

    Mike makes a good point -- GSM has great flexability.

    Funny you mention the 710 -- i was just reading a thread hereon that --
    http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...ad.php?t=75514
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treo4SW
    I was cheated into Verizon from Sprint when the V710 came out promising Bluetooth functionality like so many others, and now I'm ready to pay my $350 to get out.
    How's that action law suit going? Verizon first with the V710, Sprint next with the LG PM325

    Thing is I'm a Realtor and can get special pricing through Sprint, but I hate to go back to them as their customer service is no better than Verizon.
    So far Sprint is the only carrier that offers this incentive for realtors. They also have a cheaper data plan. No one else comes close to the $15 unlimited vision.
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    But the question is how much slower is it than the GSM EDGE network?
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    EDGE is not that fast. At its best, as reported by various users through dslreports, it is the same or slightly slower than CDMA 1XRTT
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    Really? Interesting...

    Second point for Cingular is that my fiance has a Prius with the Bluetooth system, Sprint disabled their LG BT phone just like Verizon so us switching won't do anything for her...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treo4SW
    But the question is how much slower is it than the GSM EDGE network?
    From what I've heard/read, GSM data is slower than CDMA. GSM phones do drain the battery at a slower rate - I've heard of 6+ hr talk times on GSM Treos.

    I recently switched from Verizon to Sprint in order to get the 650 and my coverage actually got better. I was on ATTW for a year a while ago and that was a disaster in NYC, though the Cingular merge seems to have improved that... a little

    Sometimes it all comes down to $$$. The PSC $15.00 unlimited data plan is the best so far. Something better is always around the corner, but how long can one wait emptyhanded? I say take the plunge with Sprint.
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    I am an AT&T customer and recently wanted to get a plan with more minutes and well you can not do that you have to get new phones (I have both of my parents on my account). I called to check on this and was told that they will price match the best deal I can find and so I am looking for the best deal for a T650 so I can do a price match with them. I mentioned the $319 here at Treo Central but that was for a SprintPCS so I was wondering if anyone has found a good price for a Cingular T650.

    jOHN
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    I recently switched from cingular to sprint and am very happy with their service. I got the first 2 months of pcs vison for free, it's great that it's only 15.00 for unlimited data. I have very fast network speeds usually around 130 kbps. The only thing I miss with using gsm is being able to swap out the sim card with a new phone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soccrnj80
    I recently switched from cingular to sprint and am very happy with their service. I got the first 2 months of pcs vison for free, it's great that it's only 15.00 for unlimited data. I have very fast network speeds usually around 130 kbps. The only thing I miss with using gsm is being able to swap out the sim card with a new phone.
    I have had my Sprint branded Treo 650 for about one week now. I've tested it across the San Francisco Bay Area and have found it quite reliable. So far, there has been only one dropped call in the City of Walnut Creek. The data service is quick in my thinking. But I use it primarily for downloading email. Call quality is clear and fortunately I don't have the mutliplicty of bugs people complain about. (Knock on wood!)

    I've been using GSM phones for the past few years. T-Moible was my last GSM provider. I've also used AT&T in the past. I miss the ability to remove my SIM card and pop it into another GSM phone. However, the Treo seems like such a great device, I figure I can stick with it for one year and put it on eBay after that, if I'm dissatisfied.

    In my case I get an additional 15% discount from Sprint for being a government employee. All in all, it has not been a bad dea. I have no regrets so far.
    David
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    I've been on Sprint for 7 years so can't speak to Cingular, but I can tell you that I have a friend who works for BellSouth (associated w/ Cingular) who recently bought the Sprint 650 over the Cingular because there was no comparison with the data plan pricing even with his employee discount. I travel w/in the US about 50% of the time and have never run into an access issue. Unless you spend significant time oversees where a gsm phone can be used I think Sprint's a good bet.
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    GSM is inherently slower than CDMA. Most of the world uses GSM because it is cheaper to roll out and requires less signal repeaters than CDMA. But CDMA can carry far more bandwidth.

    Many of the world's GSM networks were originally setup by government bodies looking for the cheapest option. While CDMA has come out more in areas where the market is more open for various wireless providers.

    Also when considering Cingular versus Sprint you might want to consider the coverage/insurance plans available for the Treo 650. With Sprint you have Lockline as the only option and for $5 a month and $50 deductable it covers most anything (loss, theft, damage, defects). I don't know what Cingular has. If paying for the insurance is something you consider to be a rip-off then of course its not a factor.
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    i don't believe cingular even offers insurance with the treo 650.
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    Quote Originally Posted by outz
    i don't believe cingular even offers insurance with the treo 650.
    Nope. They don't.
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    There are 2 things I haven't seen mentioned here but was a big reason I chose Cingular (GSM) over Sprint (CDMA):

    1 - When Blackberry Connect for Palm is finally released, the 1st version will only support GPRS networks.
    2 - When using Xpressmail or something similar to synchronize your email/calendar, on Cingular you can still receive phone calls while that synch is taking place. With Sprint, your callers will roll straight to voicemail. This was a huge problem for me since I was getting hundreds of emails/day.
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    Well thats certainly given me a lot more to think about...

    Thanks guys!
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