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    I can't wait. Do you think the software will be free, since you'll most likely need a blackberry account on your wireless plan to utilize it? I'm one of those still using a blackberry and a treo. Hoping to go to just one device.

    Now I just wished the Treo had a jog dial.
  3. #23  
    You guys waiting for BBC need to take a look at what it will be for the Treo: email.

    Period.

    Nothing else.

    No calendar, contacts, nothing. It will support the Palm contact database, which is a 'hit' in some folks eyes against GoodLink, but no synchronization of Exchange/Outlook contacts or calendar. Plus, looks like installation is not too simple.

    As for price, I HIGHLY doubt it will be free.

    http://www.palmsource.com/palmos/mailblackberry.html
  4. #24  
    Ok so i saw the same link you all are looking at and called palm and talked to a bunch of people about the bb connect before i got goodlink i do love goodlink but it is a shot in the foot when it comes to price and all i needed was email the other stuff is nice but not needed. so after spending like 5 hours talking to palm i was told that bb conect talked about on there web site is for the palm os that runs on the black berry not the treo. so i did somedigging and found out that yes palm wrote the OS for blackberry. and though in time im sure they will come out with a BB connect for treo they are not even in a bata form yet and are under contract with RIMM and can not compeate using BB conect
  5. #25  
    GoodGuy-

    1. My firm uses Notes .
    2. They support blackberry but not PDAs.

    From an email explaining the policy.

    "Why did the firm choose Blackberry over other PDA support?

    Blackberry is Always On - You are instantly notified of new e-mail messages and calendar updates. All e-mail is real-time.
    Push vs. Pull - You do not need to manually initiate a connection. Blackberry uses Push technology, where new data (e-mail,calendar) is pushed out to the device. E-mail replies or calendar data on the Blackberry is pushed back to the server. On the Palm/Pocket PC device, you have to initiate a connection and "replicate" your mail locally to your device. You then make changes, re-connect and "replicate" again.
    Ease of Use - Blackberry does not use a stylus/touchpad, etc. It uses a thumb-wheel for navigation. Blackberry includes an easy-to-use keyboard for composing and replying to e-mail.
    Lower Cost of Ownership - Combined Phone/Blackberry devices are now priced beginning at $250.00, which individuals are responsible for.
    Lower Software Expense - PDA requires an xTND Connect license of $135. Blackberry requires a $60 user license.
    Adoption Rate - Based on existing users, 50% of users cancel their Palm/Pocket PC service. Only about 2-3% cancel their Blackberry service.
    Support Costs - By supporting only one platform, we can reduce support costs and negotiate better rates."
    Last edited by LouisW; 03/24/2005 at 10:34 AM. Reason: Typo
  6. #26  
    Quote Originally Posted by LouisW
    GoodGuy-

    1. My firm uses Notes .
    Welp, that knocks us out right off the bat, however, I would like to address the other things anyway:

    "Why did the firm choose Blackberry over other PDA support?

    Blackberry is Always On - You are instantly notified of new e-mail messages and calendar updates. All e-mail is real-time.
    Push vs. Pull - You do not need to manually initiate a connection. Blackberry uses Push technology, where new data (e-mail,calendar) is pushed out to the device. E-mail replies or calendar data on the Blackberry is pushed back to the server. On the Palm/Pocket PC device, you have to initiate a connection and "replicate" your mail locally to your device. You then make changes, re-connect and "replicate" again.
    GoodLink meets all of these. We are push, not pull.

    Ease of Use - Blackberry does not use a stylus/touchpad, etc. It uses a thumb-wheel for navigation. Blackberry includes an easy-to-use keyboard for composing and replying to e-mail.
    Treo has the 5-way nav button and full qwerty keyboard

    Lower Cost of Ownership - Combined Phone/Blackberry devices are now priced beginning at $250.00, which individuals are responsible for.
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    Yes, Treo's cost more, but they are more than an email device. Get what you pay for.
    Lower Software Expense - PDA requires an xTND Connect license of $135. Blackberry requires a $60 user license.
    Have to look at the total cost of ownership. Desktop install (on any other BES besides 4.0), cradling required to provision, etc.
    Adoption Rate - Based on existing users, 50% of users cancel their Palm/Pocket PC service. Only about 2-3% cancel their Blackberry service.
    Support Costs - By supporting only one platform, we can reduce support costs and negotiate better rates."
    I can show vastly different numbers based on personal winbacks from BB accounts. Secondly, XTND vs GoodLink is an entirely different story from an end-user perspective.

    Again, the fact that you are a Notes shop makes the point moot, however, in an Exchange environment, I will take on BB on all your points all day long.
  7. #27  
    i think with all the legal problems facing bb, i think it may be a while till we may see the light of day. i guess i will have to use my old sytem of having my friends yell at me at work when we need to check our email
    Naveen

    Current:Cingular 8525 w/Faria R32

    Next Phone:
    Something from HTC because Palm sucks, so I want a Touch Pro, Touch HD, or a Treo Pro.
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    new page at Palm - at least I've never seen it before

    http://www.palm.com/us/enterprise/pr...y_connect.html
  9. #29  
    It'll be insteresting to see BBC in action. I've used Goodlink and have mixed feelings about it. It's quick and robust push mail, but:

    It uses a proprietary file format so you can't use a 3rd party PIM with it. You're stuck with their very limited calender / contact interface.
    It's a memory hog and can't be installed on a memory card.
    It doesn't allow you to send attachments (or I could never figure out how to do that)
    It sucks the life out of the battery (although I'm guessing any push email system wil do that)

    I liked it's push mail capability, but if email is all you need there are other solutions that work nearly as well using scheduled access that are far cheaper.
  10. #30  
    FYI -- RIM and NTP settled today for $612 million. Hopefully that bodes well for the possibility of finally rolling out Blackberry Connect.

    http://finance.myway.com/ht/nw/bus/2...s-wen2153.html
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    So now that there has been a settlement and its been a few days, how many of us out here would use Blackberry Connect on their Treo? From what I read its going to be a sort of plug in for Versamail, which might be kind of neat. Do you think that just a regular user would be able to get a hold of this software and be able to use it? Like I asked before, who would use it? I am just curious.
  12. #32  
    I would use it because I cannot get Chatter, et al, to work on the Treo600 and BB connect would allow me to keep the Treo (and maybe upgrade to 650). Otherwise I've got about 2 more weeks and it's goodbye Treo.
    For fun & profit & Christ,
    TWF in Chicago
  13. #33  
    ^^^

    Any developments here?
    elbastardocalvo
  14. #34  
    I'm running on a deadline. Blackberry connect would save my Treo! Hopefully they release it soon.
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    Airunz,
    Don't miss the deadline. Go with something else. This has been vaporware for years.
  16. #36  
    Would be nice. Anyone out there have the beta and can at least confirm it is in beta?
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