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    I know this may sound funny but I just bought the Treo 650 and am charging it.

    I just pluged the AC power cable to the unit to charge. I want to know how do I unplug it? Do I need to just pull it out, pull it down or up???

    Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question. I just want to play it safe with my new toy.
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    Yank it out and hope it doesn't break... It's a pretty poor design which will hopefully be irrelevant once the cradle comes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joebar
    Yank it out and hope it doesn't break... It's a pretty poor design which will hopefully be irrelevant once the cradle comes out.
    You mean I should just pull it out? It sounds risky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manoj
    You mean I should just pull it out? It sounds risky.
    Yeah, just pull it. You should hear a snapping sound. Don't worry about that, it is just a metal clip that is as stated above, a poor design. Wait for the cradle and purchase one.
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    When are the cradles releasing?
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    no up, no down, just straight out.
    plug it in the same way.

    charge it full daily, it will help the battery last longer.
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    To release the cable from a Treo 600 cable, you should squeeze the sides to cause the side "teeth" to release.

    I'm not sure if the 650 design is the same, but I would check it before yanking the cable out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DHAnderson
    I'm not sure if the 650 design is the same, but I would check it before yanking the cable out.
    The 650's charging cable does not have to be released, just pulled out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manoj
    When are the cradles releasing?
    That's a question we'd all like an answer to! The first Treo 650 was released November 17th (I think) and I got one. Now we are three months later and PalmOne is still showing the cradle as "COMMING SOON" on the web site. What do they thing soon is? When the Treo 700 is release? What a joke PalmOne is becoming. I finally made my own cradle (two actually one for work and one for home) using the Treo 600 cradle and a couple of cables I picked up on eBay.

    If a non-mechanical person like myself can make a charging & sync cradle, should PalmOne with their resources be able to produce one my now! Here are a couple of pictures:

    https://home.comcast.net/~alexander....650_cradle.jpg

    and

    https://home.comcast.net/~alexander....le_closeup.jpg
    Last edited by jimnbene; 02/14/2005 at 12:18 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnbene
    I finally made my own cradle (two actually one for work and one for home) using the Treo 600 cradle and a couple of cables I picked up on eBay.
    If a non-mechanical person like myself can make a charging & sync cradle, should PalmOne with their resources be able to produce one by now!
    PalmOne is certainly losing credibility over this lack of cradle issue amongst many others. They should most certainly be able to produce a simple thing such as a cradle.

    By the way do you mind sharing the steps involved in moddifying the Treo 600 cradle to work for the Treo 650. I should like to do the same with the Treo 600 cradle I have, specially since the cradle will be of no use once I sell my Treo 600.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanjay
    By the way do you mind sharing the steps involved in moddifying the Treo 600 cradle to work for the Treo 650. I should like to do the same with the Treo 600 cradle I have, specially since the cradle will be of no use once I sell my Treo 600.
    Not at all. First thing you need to do is get a cable like this which is a combined Sync / Charger cable which utilizes the USB port for charging. With the way the cable is setup which comes with the Treo, you can't use it to charge the 650 in the 600 cradle. Here are some pictures of the cable:
    https://home.comcast.net/~alexander....sync_cable.JPG
    and this is a listing on eBay for one:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...751637104&rd=1
    Then you have to take it apart, like this:
    https://home.comcast.net/~alexander....ctor_shell.jpg
    and take the actually connector out of the shell:
    https://home.comcast.net/~alexander....ector_only.jpg
    Then make room for it in the 600 cradle removing the old connector. To get the cradle apart, there are two screws under the rubber oval pads toward the front of the cradle on the bottom. Then you need to enlarge the opening for the new connector by using a dremel tool, a file or an Exacto knife.

    I just gently connected the connector (without the shell) to the 650 and slipped the 650 into the cradle and kept taking plastic until it fit.

    I actually cut my first one with an Exacto knife but only take off a little bit of plastic at a time. I did the second one with a Dremel tool.

    Also, in the cradle edges, there are grooves that fit in the sides of the 600 which are NOT in the 650. These must be removed, again I just used the Exacto knife. Here is a picture with one of the grooves circled:
    https://home.comcast.net/~alexander...._side_view.jpg
    Once you have fit the 650 and connector down into the opening you made in, you need to use a hot glue gun to secure it. Here are some pictures of what it looks like from the front, above and below:
    https://home.comcast.net/~alexander....front_view.jpg https://home.comcast.net/~alexander....r_top_view.jpg
    https://home.comcast.net/~alexander....ottom_view.jpg

    As you can see, I was not as accurate as I would like, but it works. The one at my office is better, but I did it second.

    Oh yeah, one more thing ... there is a stress relief that needs to be removed from the cable in order to route it out the back of the cradle bottom.

    There is no longer a functional sync button on the front of the cradle as that is incorporated in the cable, but that inline button works just fine.

    I hope that helps. You can always send me question directly if you like.

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    Wow, jimnbene, that's pretty darned impressive!

    And you call yourself "non-mechanical"? -- I beg to differ.

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    Very cool jimnbene, thanks for the tips!
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    Thanks for the awesome diy for those of us who can't wait for the OEM cradle. This is probably a cheaper solution too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tanster
    Wow, jimnbene, that's pretty darned impressive!

    And you call yourself "non-mechanical"? -- I beg to differ.

    Thanks. I'm just an amateur. If I was better, the fit and finish would be better and the pictures would be perfect. But I figure if I can do that in an afternoon the first time, PalmOne could have done it and made quantities of them in three months. At least it works for me and if someone else wants to build one, I know that they can accomplish it too.
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    Thanks jimnbene, the instructions are simple and very well explained and they should make it really simple for anyone who might want to emulate what you have done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanjay
    Thanks jimnbene, the instructions are simple and very well explained and they should make it really simple for anyone who might want to emulate what you have done.
    As far as cost goes, you are so correct. While it is a drawback that this does not allow for charging an extra battery at the same time, like the real 650 cradle will, at least you can have it in a cradle and nicely viewable on your desk.

    Since I already had two of the 600 cradles, I knew I was going to sacrafice one to see if this would work. I purchased the USB sync/chrage cables on ebay and decided what to do. Still it took me a couple of days to get into it. I figure that even including the cost of the original two cradles and the cost of a cheap hot glue gun, I have about $50 into both of my "650" cradles.
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    Nice work.

    I bet the delay on the PalmOne Cradle has something to do with the fact they haven't figured out how to make it crash the 650 enough.
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    The 'new, improved' T650 charging cable can be inserted upside down (reversed polarity). I do not understand why Pa1mOne cannot use a barrel style connector like Nokia, which cannot be inserted incorrectly.

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