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  1. #261  
    Does anyone know if the Verizon Treo 650 version has the same network time problem?
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    #262  
    I was able to solve my Treo 650 (cingular) problems very easily. I sent the thing back and ordered an undefiled (and unlocked) Treo 650.

    No problems since. I am coming to the conclusion that the cell phone service providers are doing a sloppy job of 'customizing' the phones so even if you unlock yours, you will have problems with a different vendor.

    All of the modifications done to the Treo 650 bring it one step closer to crashing. My Cingular branded 650 would regularly go into endless reset loops, shut off the radio at random times and became generally unuseable. Using the same exact setup (after unloading the Cingular version of the software) my Palm Branded Treo 650 works like a champ, I love it again!

    Spend the extra money to get a phone that works on any cell system. You are going to pay for it anyway, either in cash by being locked into a crummy long term plan, or in aggrivation from a poorly modified ROM loaded into those customized phones.

    My advice is, don't get a Treo unless it is a genuine Palm branded device or you will be tethered to the provider. In my case, Cingular is the service that I am going to quit because as a company they are very expensive, will not bend a bit for customers and overall just do not care about customers, unlike the old ATT Wireless that did.

    I am a software consultant and cannot afford to have a flaky Treo. When people who don't know what they are doing, are messing with the phone to add restrictions or force you to have favorites that make you spend more money, it can't be a good thing. Cingulars ROM is very very bad, in my opinion. Don't get one unless you don't mind sending a couple of them back to get replacements.

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  3. #263  
    jeff:

    Do you know if the VZW T650 has the same issue of the bogus time setting before the real time?
  4.    #264  
    Quote Originally Posted by dheymann
    jeff:

    Do you know if the VZW T650 has the same issue of the bogus time setting before the real time?
    Do not know. If you have a VZW T650, then install and run this application from RAM.

    Jeff

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  5. #265  
    Has anybody looked for this problem in the latest firmware update?
  6. #266  
    I think it has been established that this is no longer a message. Check one of the Sprint threads concerning the new firmware upgrade. Before the latest upgrade, I could consistently produce a reset if I had network time enabled and went to a certain spot in my driveway (no cell phones work in this particular 20 foot area!). I'd also get a reset if my phone was in a weak coverage area and bouncing between Sprint coverage and Roaming. Anyway, I've had no reset problems with that setting since the upgrade.
  7. #267  
    Quote Originally Posted by MarkY
    I think it has been established that this is no longer a message. Check one of the Sprint threads concerning the new firmware upgrade. Before the latest upgrade, I could consistently produce a reset if I had network time enabled and went to a certain spot in my driveway (no cell phones work in this particular 20 foot area!). I'd also get a reset if my phone was in a weak coverage area and bouncing between Sprint coverage and Roaming. Anyway, I've had no reset problems with that setting since the upgrade.
    Jeff,

    Has the network time enabled problem been addressed in Sprint's new firmwear update?
  8. #268  
    This fixes another problem not described above. Previously the Treo 650 screen would light up with a delay (about a second) after pushing the red button. Quite irritating. Now it doesn't anymore!
    ReindeR
  9. #269  
    Quote Originally Posted by reinder.rustema
    This fixes another problem not described above. Previously the Treo 650 screen would light up with a delay (about a second) after pushing the red button. Quite irritating. Now it doesn't anymore!
    Check and see if your bluetooth is on. Bluetooth (and IR) is on after the update on GSM phones. When bluetooth is on sometimes it will take longer to come on after pushing the red button and sometimes it will need a second push. Turn bluetooth off and the problem goes away. Hope this helps in your case.
  10. #270  
    Quote Originally Posted by jgm
    Check and see if your bluetooth is on. Bluetooth (and IR) is on after the update on GSM phones. When bluetooth is on sometimes it will take longer to come on after pushing the red button and sometimes it will need a second push. Turn bluetooth off and the problem goes away. Hope this helps in your case.
    Indeed, there is _also_ a difference with Bluetooth on or off. When it is on it needs a second push on the red button to light up.

    But the delay I fixed yesterday with disabling local network time has now returned after updating my Treo to 1.13-ROW. Like before, there is now enough time to say "WTF?" after pushing the red button and before the screen lights up. About a second I would say.

    As happy I was with getting rid of the delay, as disappointed I am now :-(
    ReindeR
  11. #271  
    Hey Jeff..

    I have a Sprint 650 and never noticed or seen it do a backward time flip. I travel between time zones everyday. I did notice some minor brain farts in the phone however. I disabled the enable network time a while ago and the phone appears to behave a little better.

    On the whole, I have had very little problems with the treo 650. Very pleased with it..

    Sprint Treo 650 1.08 Firmware

    Chuck
  12. #272  
    Quote Originally Posted by dheymann
    jeff:

    Do you know if the VZW T650 has the same issue of the bogus time setting before the real time?
    Just to confirm, yes it does affect VZW 650s. (Mine at least.)
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  13. #273  
    Quote Originally Posted by chckhbrt
    Hey Jeff..

    I have a Sprint 650 and never noticed or seen it do a backward time flip. I travel between time zones everyday. I did notice some minor brain farts in the phone however. I disabled the enable network time a while ago and the phone appears to behave a little better.

    On the whole, I have had very little problems with the treo 650. Very pleased with it..

    Sprint Treo 650 1.08 Firmware

    Chuck
    Chuck update to the latest (1.12) FW, the network time issue has been addressed.
  14.    #274  
    All,

    I just wanted to alert everyone that the "Enable Local Network Time" bug is back in a very specific form.

    I was on a flight last week and I pulled my Treo out at 35,000ft. and started playing with it. I wanted to test ProfileCare's new "No Signal Detection" feature. So I turned on my Treo. Well as it was powering up it tried to get the time via the "Enable Local Network Time" feature. Well it couldn't find it and the date on my Treo was set back to a date in the 1980's!!! So there is still a window where it is possible for this option to set your Treo's date/time to a totaly wrong date.

    I am running a CDMA Sprint 1.12 ROM release.

    Jeff
  15. #275  
    We're glad you found another problem to fix. : ) You're lucky the flight attendant didnt catch you
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    #276  
    Quote Originally Posted by MFB
    We're glad you found another problem to fix. : )
    LOL! Good one MFB...

    Thanks for the update Jeff.
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    #277  
    I think Network time also effects the ability of the built in security app to lock the phone at a certain time of day
  18. #278  
    Is there another app that can set time automatically? My Treo does lose time, apparently during soft resets. On a bad day, I can get off by several minutes. There should be an application that can take over the function of network time without setting the clock back to 1980! Or if not that, how about something that can set the time using an NTP server?
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  19.    #279  
    Quote Originally Posted by slithy
    Is there another app that can set time automatically? My Treo does lose time, apparently during soft resets. On a bad day, I can get off by several minutes. There should be an application that can take over the function of network time without setting the clock back to 1980! Or if not that, how about something that can set the time using an NTP server?
    ProfileCare has automatic daily NTP time updates. This is a set it and forget it option. PC will then only change the time if the Treo's time does not match the internet time. (The time delta is a configuration option as well.)

    Jeff
  20. #280  
    slithy,
    I use a free program called netClock. You can find it on Palmgear.
    Zane

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