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    With support finally available for WIFI on the Treo 650, Thanks to Shadowmite and others coming to market, VeriTouch is working on a VOIP solution for the Treo 650.

    We are also working with a manufacturer to introduce a combination WIFI and memory SD Card, with up to 1 GB of memory. We think this would be a neat device for many users struggling to load apps, movies, music and so forth on their T 650's.

    Comments?

    Gary E. Brant, CEO
    VeriTouch Ltd. - New York
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    Sweet!
    ETA on either?

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    Sounds great! Can't go 2 GB? I am assuming we won't have to do a hard reset to go between WiFi and phone service? Me Excited.
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    Hopefully this will get farther than their email idea, thread
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    Actually, I'd be more interested in a 1 GB sd + SDIO GPS integrated into a single unit. The SDIO GPS is useless because all maps have to be stored on SD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by veritouch
    With support finally available for WIFI on the Treo 650, Thanks to Shadowmite and others coming to market, VeriTouch is working on a VOIP solution for the Treo 650.

    We are also working with a manufacturer to introduce a combination WIFI and memory SD Card, with up to 1 GB of memory. We think this would be a neat device for many users struggling to load apps, movies, music and so forth on their T 650's.

    Comments?

    Gary E. Brant, CEO
    VeriTouch Ltd. - New York
    Will Shadowmite and others be working with you on this? Do they already know? You know the WiFi support with a SD card is not completely done and Shadowmite has not finished working on it and it needs a lot more work to get it done. How are you going to pull this out?

    Al
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    I thought the Sandisk combo wifi sd card was already out? It was just that there were no Treo600 or Treo650 drivers? VoIP would be awesome...that would enable international travelers (among others) to make cheap/free calls from overseas!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogerkang
    I thought the Sandisk combo wifi sd card was already out? It was just that there were no Treo600 or Treo650 drivers? VoIP would be awesome...that would enable international travelers (among others) to make cheap/free calls from overseas!
    For what he says to be real he need to accomplish a few things first:
    1. Manufacture the low power 1GB/WiFi SD card.
    2. Write drivers for the Treo 650 and 600.
    3. Write a load/unload application that will enable/disable WiFi on the Treo. Now, this application must work without doing a hard reset. It would be great if it didn't require a soft reset.
    4. Test and test and test.
    5. Now finally work on that VOIP application.

    I'm not a pesimist, but I would like to see more elaboration on his project road map.

    Al
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    PLEASE prove me wrong, but I see a CDMA T650 working on Cingular's network before I see this great idea actually working. Again, Prove me wrong and you have a sale!!!
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    With CDMA there is no data roming, at least on sprint, so no over seas calls on VOIP...



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    Quote Originally Posted by horsmanp
    With CDMA there is no data roming, at least on sprint, so no over seas calls on VOIP...
    Ummm...no, the point is, since there is no data roaming with Sprint, you can use a wifi connection to make calls using VOIP....
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    Shadowmite's driver for the 650 Treo is a proof of concept.

    Now we have confirmation that WIFI can work on the device, we want to implement
    a user-friendly soft reset to load either the VOIP or the voice calling functions.

    We think there is huge pent-up demand, especially in cities like NYC and San Francisco for this "killer app" on the T650 for free internet-based voice calling.

    It will take a combi-card (1 GB plus SDIO WIFI) to allow users not to give up their card-stored apps and other data, and keep switching SD cards needlessly.

    The Sandisk combi-card was a nod in the right direction, just not nearly enough memory for power-users on the T650.

    Hope this helps.

    Gary E. Brant, CEO
    VeriTouch Ltd. - New York
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    for voip you don't need wifi. All you need is sprints data connection. Wifi could be a alittle more reliable, but all you need for Voip is around 32k of bandwdth "16K half deplux"
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    but what's the point of using sprint's data connection for voip? If you have sprint's data connection, that means you have sprint service...so you could just make calls. True you could save on your anytimes minutes if you're making a call during the day...or you could make an international call, etc.

    but one of the biggest reasons *I* think voip using wifi would be cool is that you could bring your sprint phone overseas and use it for calls wherever there is a wifi connection...
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    I can hardly stream my xm radio in a good quality over sprints data network ONE way, a two way phone convo wouldn't work. Also, I'm sure sprint would catch on to the high data use and start cracking down. I like the wifi idea.
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    I think it's a cool idea too. Free calling. Anyone know what kind of speeds you need? Oh I see someone posted 32K... not bad.
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    Gary--- Great thinking on this one. The market would be huge as nobody wants to buy a SLED, especially if you can combine a 1 GB card and wifi into an SD form factor.

    So, I'm seeing your announcement as two separate initiatives-- wifi/sd card and VOIP software. I'm curious as to why you would develop a VOIP client on your own without support from carriers like Vonage--- or is that your intent?

    I will "believe it when I see it" but if you pull this off, you will not only increase your own sales, but that of P1 because of the increased capabilities.
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    Hey Gary-- one more thing---

    I was just skimming through your home page, and the Products section is listing things that are scheduled to come out in 2003!!!!

    Its nice to dream and I want to believe you, but can you offer anything tangible that would let us know how far along you are on this endeavor?
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    sounds good but I assume that the wifi bit of the combo sdio card would stick out. its a real pain to have to keep the card in with all apps and data that would be installed.

    is there any way of making the wifi extention bit removable from the base 1 gig memory card? then you could inter-change an extention wifi and gps adapter.... ahhh pipe dreams. why didn't p1 just give us 1 gig of internal memory to begin with!!! oh yeah.. make sure the memory is 60x or 10mbs
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClarenceCM3
    for voip you don't need wifi. All you need is sprints data connection. Wifi could be a alittle more reliable, but all you need for Voip is around 32k of bandwdth "16K half deplux"
    I have tried Vonage over Sprint's data connection, and it sucks. Just not enough bandwidth. WiFi is definitely needed.
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