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    I don't think anyone posted this yesterday. Here's the link to the review: http://www.x-gadget.com/articles/54/...reo-650-review
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    Good article. Looks like they liked the Treo more, which I am happy about . Thanks for the link, adean1979.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RockMancuso
    Good article. Looks like they liked the Treo more, which I am happy about . Thanks for the link, adean1979.
    Looks Like? Here is a quote from their conclusion:
    "Unfortunately, the PPC-6601 is a big dumb step-brother of the Palm Treo line - maybe too dumb for those looking for a true smart phone. Microsoft and Audiovox need to follow Palm’s lead and build a full PocketPC smart phone that can be used entirely one-handed for all of the included applications.
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    The article talks a lot about "one-handed" stuff. What's everybody doing with the other hand??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Otter Emperor
    Looks Like? Here is a quote from their conclusion:
    "Unfortunately, the PPC-6601 is a big dumb step-brother of the Palm Treo line - maybe too dumb for those looking for a true smart phone. Microsoft and Audiovox need to follow Palm’s lead and build a full PocketPC smart phone that can be used entirely one-handed for all of the included applications.
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    He also said he uses a PowerBook. So no big surprise he didn't care for the Microsoft OS based product
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    Interesting article. Thanks for posting. The reveiwer talks about 'his' Treo a lot so I take it he is an owner. His review seems a bit biased towards the Treo.
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    I have both and tried the PPC-6601. Although there are some things I liked about it, I am back to using my Treo 650. I just couldn't overcome some of the issues that I didn't like with the PPC-6601 and found myself missing my Treo.
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    I don't know how bright he was when he said this:

    " I was unable to determine if the browser supported JavaScript like the Treo 650 "
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    Despite the shortcomings of the reviewers report, one thing stands out above all, the Treo 650 is much more of a phone than the 6601. Size wise, there's no comparsion, particularly since the Treo 650 is on the very edge of maximum size for most folks.
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    I thought the article was a biased. This was more of an editorial than a real balanced look.

    A lot of 6601 users report easy one handed operation. The camera thing is rediculous, would he take points off of the cameraless version of the treo for not having a camera? No mention of any of the treos shortcomings???

    Not that I am firmly planted in the ppc camp, but this was more or less an article picking apart the ppc and defaulting the 650 as a benchmark.

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    What I found most interesting:

    Bluetooth comes standard with the PPC-6601 just like the Treo 650. There is an application included called WModem which seems to allow the PPC-6601 to act as a wireless modem for a Laptop computer with BlueTooth. Unfortunately I could not get my 12 Powerbook to connect to the PPC-6601 correctly to test this application. The addition of this application seems amazing since Sprint has recently chosen to disable using Bluetooth as a wireless modem on the Treo 650.
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    Talk about a treo biased review.
    Have you noticed that he doesnt say a single thing about any negatives the 650 has.


    What about the 650 dial phone lag. What about the cracking and distorted sound when you turn up the volume to max.

    I have also heard that alot of people think that the 6601's speaker phone is better than the 650 too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robber
    I thought the article was a biased. This was more of an editorial than a real balanced look.

    A lot of 6601 users report easy one handed operation. The camera thing is rediculous, would he take points off of the cameraless version of the treo for not having a camera? No mention of any of the treos shortcomings???

    Not that I am firmly planted in the ppc camp, but this was more or less an article picking apart the ppc and defaulting the 650 as a benchmark.

    -rob
    I thought there were mentions of the Treo's inability to do multitasking.

    And unless the 6601 has a version with a camera, I don't think it's ridiculous. With the Treo line you get the choice of camera or no camera (well in the 600 and soon the 650). For a minority of the population the lack of a camera is a huge plus (they can use it at work). For the majority, the lack of a camera is an outstanding oversight. I think camera phones are free from many carriers. For $629 you don't have the option for the camera?

    I realize some people (and perhaps rightfully so) think the camera is too poor to be useless. Those people are looking at the camera as a way to store memories, not for functional informational purposes. Just the other day, I went to a tuxedo rental shop and took a picture of a tuxedo for a wedding I was going to be in. The groom wanted to make sure they matched, so I sent him a picture, called him to tell him to expect it (he was at a computer as he has an office job), tried on the tux. He called me back and said it was good. It saved me a trip of 30 miles out to his office for him to make sure (grooms can be like that when you have to have matching tuxes).

    Anyway, that's the use of a camera that's important. Not having that option doesn't make this phone very, er, smart.
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    Also on gaming.
    They dont talk about the large screen factor the 6601 posseses when compared to the 650?
    Oh and have you guys noticed how they said no negative comments about the 650's small screen in watching movies compared to the 6601.
    Just how washed out the colors looked on the 6601.


    I own a 650 right now and love it death. But I am extremly interested in the 6601 when it comes out. I thank god for this holiday return policy. And hope the 6600 comes out soon to the stores.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmacfarland
    I thought there were mentions of the Treo's inability to do multitasking.

    And unless the 6601 has a version with a camera, I don't think it's ridiculous. With the Treo line you get the choice of camera or no camera (well in the 600 and soon the 650). For a minority of the population the lack of a camera is a huge plus (they can use it at work). For the majority, the lack of a camera is an outstanding oversight. I think camera phones are free from many carriers. For $629 you don't have the option for the camera?
    It's pretty much all over the place that the 6600 is the version with the camera and will be released shortly (supposed to be by the end of this month).

    Also, I think the pictures are misleading. If you look at the browsing, there is more info on the 6601's screen, but the image size is put next to the treo screen pic and because of the article trying to make the pics the same size, it APPEARS the 650 has a bigger/larger view. It's more psychological than anything, but if the appropriate ratios of the pics were displayed, it would give a more accurate feel.

    I like both devices, but for what I want to do, the PPC will have more of what I want, so I am going to try the 6600 when it is released.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haduken
    Also on gaming.
    They dont talk about the large screen factor the 6601 posseses when compared to the 650?
    Oh and have you guys noticed how they said no negative comments about the 650's small screen in watching movies compared to the 6601.
    Just how washed out the colors looked on the 6601.
    I thought they mentioned the large screen, but I might have to take another look. On the flip size, the large screen in my view is largely negated by fewer dots per inch. So unless they mentioned the Treo's greater dots per inch, I think it's fair to ignore the larger screen of the 6601.
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    Quote Originally Posted by njchris
    It's pretty much all over the place that the 6600 is the version with the camera and will be released shortly (supposed to be by the end of this month).

    I like both devices, but for what I want to do, the PPC will have more of what I want, so I am going to try the 6600 when it is released.
    I hadn't been aware of the 6600 as I don't follow PPC phones that closely (at least until they have more a Treo-like form factor and usability). Still, I don't think you can fault the review for taking the phones that exist today and comparing them. Comparing what might be out at the end of the month is more fortune forecasting than reviewing.
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    Also he didnt mention on gaming how 6601 can handle "playstation" and "snes" emulation while the 650 only has nesem.
    But I guess thats more of OS comparison.....

    Any how, its biased!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmacfarland
    I thought they mentioned the large screen, but I might have to take another look. On the flip size, the large screen in my view is largely negated by fewer dots per inch. So unless they mentioned the Treo's greater dots per inch, I think it's fair to ignore the larger screen of the 6601.

    Then they should have compared the large screen dpi ratio. And not just bash that the 6601 screen's is just poorer than the 650. They kept saying how the 650's screen is so much clearer and better than the 6601's.
    They should have said something like...
    "Due to the large screen size of the 6601, the 6601 sacrficed greater dpi's. This has its pros and cons....... The 650 on the flip side stayed with the smaller screen factor. This has its pros and cons."

    I just think they were just way to favorable on the 650.



    How come they talk about the 6601's movie watching. But do not compare the 650 to the 6601 directly when it comes to movie watching. hmm....

    I also do not recall them talking about memory comprisons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmacfarland
    I hadn't been aware of the 6600 as I don't follow PPC phones that closely (at least until they have more a Treo-like form factor and usability). Still, I don't think you can fault the review for taking the phones that exist today and comparing them. Comparing what might be out at the end of the month is more fortune forecasting than reviewing.
    So you dont think that an objective reviewer should mention that the camera version is due anyday???Come one!

    I have no problem with the treo being the reviewers preference, but lets not kid ourselves with what we are reading. This is a long time treo user who gave an incredibly advanced and complex device a short stint at winning him over. This is not a true comparison.

    The ppc can don so much more than what he discovered. An example is that you can take active notes via stylus while on speakerphone, then translate the notes to text using the transcriber. These notes are automatically stored right in the call log for easy review down the road. That is functional!

    This remided me of a typical forum review, not a credible publication.

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