View Poll Results: Which lens type do you see on your Treo?

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  • #1 - Clear Lens

    18 69.23%
  • #2 - Pink Lens

    8 30.77%
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  1.    #1  
    I had requested my first 650 be replaced due to a sticky dpad. When receiving the new one I noticed something very curious (see images below). #1 has a camera lens that is clear and has a ridge around it (sort of countersunk). #2 has a camera lens that is flush and it is bright pink. #1 seems to be larger in diameter than #2. Are there two types of camera lenses shipping? Does anyone else have a pink lens?


    #1 - Clear Lens
    http://members.cox.net/bruizjr2/650_1.JPG

    #2 - Pink Lens
    http://members.cox.net/bruizjr2/650_2.JPG
    Last edited by bruizjr; 12/04/2004 at 02:42 PM.
  2. #2  
    Could the pink lense be a pink protective plastic over the lens? A plastic piece that the end user peels off?
  3.    #3  
    Dont think so, this is the actual lens below the outer glass. The end user cannot touch this lens.
  4. #4  
    Gottcha, it was kinda hard to tell from the picture, Can you get a digital camera on a tripod and use the "macro" mode and get a closeup and post it here?
  5.    #5  
    I updated the pictures (had to read my camera's manual for the first time). These really help with the details I was trying to explain in my original post. #1 is clear, and #2 is a very obvious bright pink. In the closeups, it is hard to tell but there is a dramatic difference in color. Also the size is different, and there seems to be a ridge around #1 that is not there on #2.
  6. #6  
    but is there a difference in quality?

    I suppose it is possible that the metal being used on the casing can vary.. it's not "uncommon" when things are mass produced...
  7. #7  
    Yea, I notice the smaller aperture now, thanks, I am at a loss, sorry.
  8.    #8  
    Well its not just the metal but the actual lens. The thing that makes this most curious is that I thought (I could be wrong here) the biggest improvement in the camera between the 600 and 650 was the lens.

    Out of curiousity, I snapped two identical pictures (see images below) with both the #1 clear lens and the #2 pink lens. I don't know but I like the image from the pink lens better. This isn't exactly the most scientific comparison either, but there does appear to be a difference in quality.

    #1 - Clear Lens
    http://members.cox.net/bruizjr2/1.jpg

    #2 - Pink Lens
    http://members.cox.net/bruizjr2/2.jpg
  9. #9  
    If both treos were stable, then the #2pink looks better IMHO.
  10. #10  
    I also see that pinkish tinge to the internal lens on my 650. I assume it is a refraction off of the the coating which good lenses use to dampen internal reflections and yield sharper images with better contrast just as picture number 2 demonstrates.
  11. #11  
    the difference between the two pictures could be a bit of motion. I agree with Burkhardi the tinge could be an anti refractive lense coating
  12.    #12  
    An anti-reflective coating makes sense. Even if the #1 clear lens was missing the coating though, it is also larger in aperture. A clear mystery. The pink lens appears to be an improvement however so I am not complaining! I am more curious what the majority of people with the 650 have, the clear lens like #1 or the pink lens like #2?

    Here is another test, this time I made a effort to keep the treo as stable as possible using both hands. I also blindly chose the Treo unit so I didn't know which one was in use when taking the image. There is a slight difference in distance, so its not an exact comparison. The results appear to be the same as in the prior images though. When using the #2 pink lens the image appears sharper.

    #1 - Clear Lens
    http://members.cox.net/bruizjr2/c2.jpg

    #2 - Pink Lens
    http://members.cox.net/bruizjr2/p2.jpg
  13. #13  
    I looked at mine, I think it's the pink lens, but it's more of a magenta and kind of hard to see, right?
  14. #14  
    sorry, how exactly can you tell it's pink? where do you look? i want a pink lens too
  15.    #15  
    Quote Originally Posted by Burkhardi
    I looked at mine, I think it's the pink lens, but it's more of a magenta and kind of hard to see, right?
    Yeah, magenta is probably the more appropriate way to describe the color. I wouldn't say its hard to see. If you look at it under light at an angle it really lights up this magenta color. Pretty wierd that there is two of them out there.

    Here is another shot of the magenta lens from a further distance to show off the color better.

    http://members.cox.net/bruizjr2/pink.JPG
    Last edited by bruizjr; 12/04/2004 at 02:30 PM.
  16. #16  
    apropos of nothing, i sure wish they'd recessed the lens cover just a fraction of an inch deeper, like another 1/8th inch. i fairly routinely manage to touch a finger tip to it and have to get out the old lens cleaning cloth...
    Paul Theodoropoulos
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  17.    #17  
    Quote Originally Posted by anastrophe
    apropos of nothing, i sure wish they'd recessed the lens cover just a fraction of an inch deeper, like another 1/8th inch. i fairly routinely manage to touch a finger tip to it and have to get out the old lens cleaning cloth...
    Yeah, I agree; however it is a nice improvement over the 600's lens cover. If you remember, on the 600 it wasn't recessed at all. The slight recess of the cover on the 650 has saved some cleaning for some of those finger swipes that on the 600 would have certainly meant a greasy lens cover.

    Back to the subject at hand about the actual lens. To satisfy my curiousity, I will add a poll to this thread.
    Last edited by bruizjr; 12/04/2004 at 03:06 PM.
  18. #18  
    I have the clear lens, and my photos seem a bit blurry.

    .....Off topic, bruizjr, your dog looks kind of like mine. (except upside down) Our first agility competition is this Jan. Can't wait.
    Blue Skies,
    Wags
  19.    #19  
    Quote Originally Posted by tanster
    Based on bruizjr's pictures and descriptions in post #1, all I know for sure is that there is a ridge surrounding the lens on my 650:

    The ridge is especially noticeable in picture #2.

    I used a flashlight to shine a light directly into the lens, then looked at the lens at an angle.

    The little dot of light in the lens could be described as reddish, but you really have to look at it closely. (The photos here do not show the color of the light very well....)


    That's definitely the Clear Lens (#1).
    Last edited by bruizjr; 12/04/2004 at 08:19 PM.
  20. #20  
    Interesting find Bruiz
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